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Post by kersting13 on Nov 26, 2018 8:51:38 GMT -8
It is my impression that as part of the culture shift of the NCAA providing more benefits and rights to players, it has also been granting extra years of eligibility more frequently then in the past. It's clear the NCAA is softening its stance on lots of eligibility issues. Can you point to an example of a kid getting a 6th year who didn't lose 2 seasons to injury? In the past, one healthy redshirt year + one injury season = no hardship.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 26, 2018 9:02:01 GMT -8
It is my impression that as part of the culture shift of the NCAA providing more benefits and rights to players, it has also been granting extra years of eligibility more frequently then in the past. It's clear the NCAA is softening its stance on lots of eligibility issues. Can you point to an example of a kid getting a 6th year who didn't lose 2 seasons to injury? In the past, one healthy redshirt year + one injury season = no hardship. Dylan Ennis.
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Post by beavs6 on Nov 26, 2018 10:35:05 GMT -8
Luton, Gebbia, Willard, Colletto, Moore, and a FR or 2 from this year would be plenty of depth. No Luton, then things get dicey.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 10:45:56 GMT -8
he is the spitting image of Darryl Garretson. why would he need to put weight on? not my words, not my thoughts...I have never laid eyes on the guy. The people saying this are people whose opinion you would respect. Not suggest he is some sort of overrated bust, just a cautionary note..and having Luton back would not be a bad thing, questions: how long will it take to get the NCAA answer? in the meantime how do you recruit with the likelihood of playing time right away if you have a somewhat proven starter coming back? Would it be better to start fresh and be able to say to recruits the door is wide open?
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Post by ochobeavo on Nov 26, 2018 11:03:19 GMT -8
not my words, not my thoughts...I have never laid eyes on the guy. The people saying this are people whose opinion you would respect. Not suggest he is some sort of overrated bust, just a cautionary note..and having Luton back would not be a bad thing, questions: how long will it take to get the NCAA answer? in the meantime how do you recruit with the likelihood of playing time right away if you have a somewhat proven starter coming back? Would it be better to start fresh and be able to say to recruits the door is wide open? I don't think your 2nd question will be an issue at QB. We aren't exactly recruiting the caliber of HS QB that one would expect to step in and start in September (and be successful). Most of those types are long gone at least in terms of verbal commits. We'll likely land a kid in this class with some mid-major offers and hope to coach'em up. Either way, I think the message is still the same - we bring you in and you can compete for the job and if you're good enough, you'll play as a freshman. And then point at Jefferson, Hodgins and others...
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 26, 2018 13:06:53 GMT -8
I hope Blount doesn't transfer. I think he's got potential. I saw great improvement this year, although definitely still has a long way to go. Not sure he'll ever fully grasp the feeling pressure and moving the right way element. But even so, things change quickly at that position, and I don't think you can have too many qualified backups.
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Post by jimbeav on Nov 26, 2018 13:27:06 GMT -8
I think the case for Luton getting a 6th year is that he only played in 3 full games last year and got injured in game 4 and was out for the season, and now this year he got injured in game 1 and proceeded to miss about half the season due to various injuries.
I wouldn't call it a slam dunk, but I can certainly see the possibility of it getting granted.
If it's true that he's applied, my biggest takeaway is that it's a positive sign about our program that he wants to come back and keep trying to turn this thing around. Rag on his abilities all you want, but the guy's a gamer without any quit in him, and a 3-year starting QB could provide valuable leadership in the locker room next year. Leadership among the players is not something we have had since Riley left, and I think it's a necessary (though not sufficient) requirement to get this program back on its feet. So yeah, good luck Jake and go get 'em...
GO BEAVS!
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 26, 2018 13:49:20 GMT -8
It'll be interesting to see. Last year's injury clearly took him out for the rest of the year. This year he missed a third of the games, and was hobbled all but the first and final game. It really depends on how generous the committee is feeling I guess.
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 26, 2018 13:55:12 GMT -8
It'll be interesting to see. Last year's injury clearly took him out for the rest of the year. This year he missed a third of the games, and was hobbled all but the first and final game. It really depends on how generous the committee is feeling I guess. The new rules must be very nebulous. The old rules were pretty cut and dry. Stroughter, we knew would get his, Joe Newton, we knew he would not. Luton? No idea, because it appears it's now up to the whims of the NCAA.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 26, 2018 13:59:54 GMT -8
It'll be interesting to see. Last year's injury clearly took him out for the rest of the year. This year he missed a third of the games, and was hobbled all but the first and final game. It really depends on how generous the committee is feeling I guess. The new rules must be very nebulous. The old rules were pretty cut and dry. Stroughter, we knew would get his, Joe Newton, we knew he would not. Luton? No idea, because it appears it's now up to the whims of the NCAA. Stroughter got a fifth year. As did James Rodgers. Newton redshirted in 2002 and missed all of 2005, but I do not know that he missed sufficient time in any of the other seasons that would have warranted a sixth year.
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Post by ag87 on Nov 26, 2018 14:17:21 GMT -8
I saw Joe Newton and visited with him a little in the fall of 2011. He was done with the Seahawks by then and working as a forester. I asked him he could do anything to help the Beavers. He said if the NCAA wouldn't notice, he'd suit up and play under an assumed name.
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 26, 2018 15:56:09 GMT -8
The new rules must be very nebulous. The old rules were pretty cut and dry. Stroughter, we knew would get his, Joe Newton, we knew he would not. Luton? No idea, because it appears it's now up to the whims of the NCAA. Stroughter got a fifth year. As did James Rodgers. Newton redshirted in 2002 and missed all of 2005, but I do not know that he missed sufficient time in any of the other seasons that would have warranted a sixth year. Newton's situation is closer to Luton's situation. Had Luton not redshirted his true freshman season, he would have been a slam dunk for a hardship due to missing the last 8 games of 2017 under the "old rules", the same as Rodgers and Stroughter. Both Newton and Luton were healthy redshirts their first season. Both played significant amounts of 3 healthy seasons. Both missed most or all of one season with an injury. But, hey, these new rules are more liberal, so maybe he gets the extra year that Newton did not.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 26, 2018 15:58:58 GMT -8
Stroughter got a fifth year. As did James Rodgers. Newton redshirted in 2002 and missed all of 2005, but I do not know that he missed sufficient time in any of the other seasons that would have warranted a sixth year. Newton's situation is closer to Luton's situation. Had Luton not redshirted his true freshman season, he would have been a slam dunk for a hardship due to missing the last 8 games of 2017 under the "old rules", the same as Rodgers and Stroughter. Both Newton and Luton were healthy redshirts their first season. Both played significant amounts of 3 healthy seasons. Both missed most or all of one season with an injury. But, hey, these new rules are more liberal, so maybe he gets the extra year that Newton did not. Not mentioned, but very important in my eyes, Luton would not even attempt to get the extra year if the coaching staff didn't approve. If they want him back there is a reason. So I'm all for it!
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Post by Tigardbeav on Nov 26, 2018 16:52:02 GMT -8
I saw Joe Newton and visited with him a little in the fall of 2011. He was done with the Seahawks by then and working as a forester. I asked him he could do anything to help the Beavers. He said if the NCAA wouldn't notice, he'd suit up and play under an assumed name. I endorse this strategy he was such a good player. That achilles or whatever was really poor timing for him
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Post by joecool on Nov 26, 2018 17:03:46 GMT -8
Blount will transfer per his own Twitter account.
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