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Post by bill82 on Feb 4, 2019 5:10:46 GMT -8
Dropped two touchdown passes and failed to disrupt interception in the red zone (where he is targeted). Yikes.
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Post by atownbeaver on Feb 4, 2019 8:22:19 GMT -8
Dropped two touchdown passes and failed to disrupt interception in the red zone (where he is targeted). Yikes. I would not either drops. 1st TD, Goff saw him wide open late, THEN threw the worst wounded duck of a ball you'd ever seen, allowing the defender to close the distance while Cooks sat in the end zone wide open for all of eternity. Cooks still had to jump out of the stadium to get to the ball, so he was also hanging in air. Defender made a great play to rip Cooks arms apart after the slowest pass in all of humanity got there. ( legitimately raged at how poorly Goff read and delivered that play) 2nd TD was clear PI on the replay, defender had his left arm, pulled it down and prevented him from getting two hands on the ball. One arm catching that ball would of gone down in history as an all time great Superbowl play, up there with helmet ball and others. INT, Goff threw off his back foot in the face of pressure and under threw the ball by at least 15 yards. Cooks had back to the ball and just made his break to get up field and run his corner route while Gilmore, whom was very deep on the play, hadn't swiveled his hips, Gilmore had all the advantage, it was as if Goff was throwing to him. Cooks saw the under throw too late and had to stop from a full sprint. There isn't a WR in the league that was likely getting back to break that up given the situation. But I will say it is probably a nightmare situation for Cooks with so many blown opportunities in this game and their offense being otherwise completely inept. Rams maybe should of spent some of their big cash on the OL instead of just DL.
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Post by nabeav on Feb 4, 2019 8:26:07 GMT -8
I had a completely different interpretation of the events.
Patriots play good D on one pass, preventing him from getting his left arm up to make the catch. On the other pass, he was wide open if Goff throws the ball a second sooner. Instead, Brandin has to wait at the back of the end zone, where a Patriot defender arrives just as the ball does.
The interception was in no way Brandin's fault. Goff slipped as he threw it, lofting way higher than his intention. This resulted in the ball being a good ten yards short of where Cooks expected it. You can see him looking at the defender's eyes and being like "oh crap, the ball is coming already?" And if you're expecting the shortest guy on the field to win a jump ball, well.....that's like expecting the Jets to win the AFC East. Sure it can happen, but that's a pretty low percentage.
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 4, 2019 8:45:21 GMT -8
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Post by obf on Feb 4, 2019 9:08:15 GMT -8
The first potential TD cooks was open FOREVER in the end zone and Goff airmailed it late allowing a guy not even covering cooks to make it back and disrupt. Even without that guy, it was so high and so wounded that it would have been a great catch regardless
Second potential TD was a better throw, although into triple coverage, and Cooks was severely interfered with before and during the attempted catch. One patriots defender was holding one fo cooks arms down the whole time so it was a defacto one handed catch while leaping and getting hit by defenders. I guess you could call it a drop, but the whole crowd I was watching with all said, "Whelp there is the New Orleans make up call". Clear PI, IMHO.
The Interception was Goff being a bad QB, not sure how you blame that one Cooks???
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Post by beaverstever on Feb 4, 2019 9:18:46 GMT -8
He probably will blame himself, so agree those events will give him nightmares. But I don't know what he does differently to change the outcome of those plays.
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Post by ochobeavo on Feb 4, 2019 9:40:29 GMT -8
If we're blaming things I've got a few I'd go with well before you ever get to Cooks. I'd start with scheme/play calling, Goff w/the yips affecting timing, pass protection breakdowns, Goff not knowing that the sun rises in the east, Maroon 5, Goff not knowing when to throw the ball away and then no one really knows what's up with Gurley.
Is he hurt? Is he just hurt for 10 minutes at a time? In the doghouse? On a pitch count? Really weird to me. Also, did I mention Goff? Yeah Goff.
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 4, 2019 10:51:45 GMT -8
If we're blaming things I've got a few I'd go with well before you ever get to Cooks. I'd start with scheme/play calling, Goff w/the yips affecting timing, pass protection breakdowns, Goff not knowing that the sun rises in the east, Maroon 5, Goff not knowing when to throw the ball away and then no one really knows what's up with Gurley. Is he hurt? Is he just hurt for 10 minutes at a time? In the doghouse? On a pitch count? Really weird to me. Also, did I mention Goff? Yeah Goff. Goff fulfilled all the expectations I had for him yesterday after watching him at Cal.
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Post by nabeav on Feb 4, 2019 10:59:01 GMT -8
If we're blaming things I've got a few I'd go with well before you ever get to Cooks. I'd start with scheme/play calling, Goff w/the yips affecting timing, pass protection breakdowns, Goff not knowing that the sun rises in the east, Maroon 5, Goff not knowing when to throw the ball away and then no one really knows what's up with Gurley. Is he hurt? Is he just hurt for 10 minutes at a time? In the doghouse? On a pitch count? Really weird to me. Also, did I mention Goff? Yeah Goff. Goff fulfilled all the expectations I had for him yesterday after watching him at Cal. You had him leading his team to an NFC Championship and losing to the greatest NFL Dynasty ever? Impressive.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 4, 2019 12:01:49 GMT -8
Dropped two touchdown passes and failed to disrupt interception in the red zone (where he is targeted). Yikes. Why am I not surprised at this at all.
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Post by bill82 on Feb 4, 2019 14:10:53 GMT -8
He probably will blame himself, so agree those events will give him nightmares. But I don't know what he does differently to change the outcome of those plays. That was my thinking. He will relive those plays forever. A taller and stronger wide receiver makes one or more of the plays.
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 4, 2019 14:20:02 GMT -8
Dropped two touchdown passes and failed to disrupt interception in the red zone (where he is targeted). Yikes. Just wrong assessment. First pass, late, high and maybe out of the end zone if he comes up with it. Not to mention the defender hitting him as he tried to catch it. Second pass, Gilmore pulled back on his left arm and the safety timed the hit to make a one-handed catch almost impossible. Brandin is a tremendous weapon and caught 8 balls for 120 yards in that game against the top-rated corner in football. He has great hands generally, but occasionally will fall into letting the ball get to his pads rather than going out to get it with his hands. That was NOT the case on either of those plays. As for breaking up the pick, when a receiver is beating a guy over the top and the ball gets underthrown, that’s pretty tough for him to get back and do anything about it. Goff sucked under the pressure. The second probable TD was a pretty ball that was just played perfectly and craftily by New England. Brandin wasn’t perfect, and sometimes the elite make those plays. While not quite elite, he’s very close. He knows he’s got to make those plays even when they are nearly impossible because nobody else was and he’s capable, but your post insinuates that he messed up, and that couldn’t be further from the truth.
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Post by kersting13 on Feb 4, 2019 15:14:25 GMT -8
He probably will blame himself, so agree those events will give him nightmares. But I don't know what he does differently to change the outcome of those plays. That was my thinking. He will relive those plays forever. A taller and stronger wide receiver makes one or more of the plays. But, there aren't really taller and stronger WRs who are as fast as Cooks, so if he's taller and stronger, he's probably not even in position to have those throws sent his way.
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Post by atownbeaver on Feb 4, 2019 15:33:30 GMT -8
That was my thinking. He will relive those plays forever. A taller and stronger wide receiver makes one or more of the plays. But, there aren't really taller and stronger WRs who are as fast as Cooks, so if he's taller and stronger, he's probably not even in position to have those throws sent his way. Pretty much. Calvin Johnson (4.35 40 at the combine, 6'5" and 230) and Julio Jones (4.40 6'3" 220) types don't exactly grow on trees! Unicorn WR types, which is why they were the 2nd and 6th picks of their respective drafts. Generally speaking, unless you are a freak like these guys, if you are blazing fast, you aren't overly bulky. Randy Moss was stupid fast and very tall... but he wasn't exactly known for muscling people about.
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Post by badwack on Feb 4, 2019 16:49:02 GMT -8
You have to wonder why the Pats dumped Cooks. Seems he is exactly what Brady Needed. Size?
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