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Post by orangeattack on Jul 10, 2019 12:07:57 GMT -8
You mean to tell me you dropped by Prothro and NO ONE was running routes?! not only was there no running routes, it was a cementary, man.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 10, 2019 12:18:16 GMT -8
You mean to tell me you dropped by Prothro and NO ONE was running routes?! not only was there no running routes, it was a cementary, man. So lots of construction going on?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 12:52:25 GMT -8
not only was there no running routes, it was a cementary, man.strangely enough you seemed to have googled up what appears to be a mauseoleum under construction. The irony abounds. I would prefer that they are spinal tap condominimums but that would be going to 11. Is this thread now jacked to your specifications, pufffyfish?
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 11, 2019 10:17:57 GMT -8
strangely enough you seemed to have googled up what appears to be a mauseoleum under construction. The irony abounds. I would prefer that they are spinal tap condominimums but that would be going to 11. Is this thread now jacked to your specifications, pufffyfish? I'm disappointed that you somehow think that irony is accidental and that I didn't rub together a couple brain cells looking for the perfect response.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 10:21:10 GMT -8
strangely enough you seemed to have googled up what appears to be a mauseoleum under construction. The irony abounds. I would prefer that they are spinal tap condominimums but that would be going to 11. Is this thread now jacked to your specifications, pufffyfish? I'm disappointed that you somehow think that irony is accidental and that I didn't rub together a couple brain cells looking for the perfect response. Perfect is the enemy of good. You remember that when Riley and Langsdork have to burn a timeout because they wasted time choosing the perfect play.
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 11, 2019 10:26:04 GMT -8
I'm disappointed that you somehow think that irony is accidental and that I didn't rub together a couple brain cells looking for the perfect response. Perfect is the enemy of good. You remember that when Riley and Langsdork have to burn a timeout because they wasted time choosing the perfect play. I didn't have to burn a timeout though - I had the perfect play dialed up 3 seconds after I spotted the opening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 10:36:18 GMT -8
Perfect is the enemy of good. You remember that when Riley and Langsdork have to burn a timeout because they wasted time choosing the perfect play. I didn't have to burn a timeout though - I had the perfect play dialed up 3 seconds after I spotted the opening. touche. ahh well this beats that other circle jerk about their qb.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jul 11, 2019 11:17:13 GMT -8
MR never "burned" a time-out. He had a clause in his contract that paid him a bonus for every one he took to the locker room. The "perfect" play call usually reached the huddle 6 seconds before a delay of game penalty. In hurry-up mode, the play got there after the flag. Go Beavs!!
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Post by obf on Jul 15, 2019 7:04:48 GMT -8
1. Non-mainstream player for board adoration 2. OL minutiae 3. Tyjon Lindsey My nominations for number 1 above are, in order of likely hood: - Jordan Whittley -- Finally a JC DL makes good??? After travails with the likes of Kuli, Peko and Evans, Jordan comes in and from game 1 is the Wilforkian immovable lump in the middle of the defense that makes everything else in the defensive plan click into place
- Jack Colletto -- Our very own Tebow (as a freshman). Jack will have 15 TDs (running or throwing), 2 point conversions, and 4th down conversions... and only 18 plays on the year
- Simon Sandberg -- I give it 50/50 odds that by game three we are calling Simon, "THOR". The Swedish Sledgehammer will play with reckless abandon and wreck havoc on opposing offenses and return teams. He is to raw to be a starter or even get very regular playing time, but he will have a handful of spectacular sacks and targeting penalties to his name
In terms of OL minutiae, less than the players themselves, and more than any other position group, I think the main key to OL play is the OL coach. All of our great O-Lines had Cavs dirty dog grit, determination and nastiness. We have had some creat individual players on the O-Line in the last couple decades, many of them "diamonds in the rough", and it took a good coach to polish those big boys up. Honestly, after the head coach, I think the O-Line coach is the next ost important on a football team, more than even either coordinator. I really think that Jim Michalczik is the real deal. I also think Eldridge is the real deal, but for the success of the O-Line this year and going forward Jim Michalczik is the real minutiae.
The WR room is FULL, it is buldging at the seams! We have SO much talent in that group right and the RB group right now that fighting for playing time and balls thrown your way will be a real challenge for even some very good players. That being said it will not suprise me if by the end of the year the three guys with the most targets and catches are Hodgins, Bradford and Lindsey. Also keep an eye out for carries for Tyjon. Tyjon is a bigger / thicker player than you would expect for a fast WR. Bradford has been our fly sweep guy at times, but, IMHO doesn't really excel at it, I expect Tyjon to take over that role.
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 15, 2019 11:50:04 GMT -8
1. Non-mainstream player for board adoration 2. OL minutiae 3. Tyjon Lindsey My nominations for number 1 above are, in order of likely hood: - Jordan Whittley -- Finally a JC DL makes good??? After travails with the likes of Kuli, Peko and Evans, Jordan comes in and from game 1 is the Wilforkian immovable lump in the middle of the defense that makes everything else in the defensive plan click into place
- Jack Colletto -- Our very own Tebow (as a freshman). Jack will have 15 TDs (running or throwing), 2 point conversions, and 4th down conversions... and only 18 plays on the year
- Simon Sandberg -- I give it 50/50 odds that by game three we are calling Simon, "THOR". The Swedish Sledgehammer will play with reckless abandon and wreck havoc on opposing offenses and return teams. He is to raw to be a starter or even get very regular playing time, but he will have a handful of spectacular sacks and targeting penalties to his name
In terms of OL minutiae, less than the players themselves, and more than any other position group, I think the main key to OL play is the OL coach. All of our great O-Lines had Cavs dirty dog grit, determination and nastiness. We have had some creat individual players on the O-Line in the last couple decades, many of them "diamonds in the rough", and it took a good coach to polish those big boys up. Honestly, after the head coach, I think the O-Line coach is the next ost important on a football team, more than even either coordinator. I really think that Jim Michalczik is the real deal. I also think Eldridge is the real deal, but for the success of the O-Line this year and going forward Jim Michalczik is the real minutiae.
The WR room is FULL, it is buldging at the seams! We have SO much talent in that group right and the RB group right now that fighting for playing time and balls thrown your way will be a real challenge for even some very good players. That being said it will not suprise me if by the end of the year the three guys with the most targets and catches are Hodgins, Bradford and Lindsey. Also keep an eye out for carries for Tyjon. Tyjon is a bigger / thicker player than you would expect for a fast WR. Bradford has been our fly sweep guy at times, but, IMHO doesn't really excel at it, I expect Tyjon to take over that role.
ok now we are talking.. this is interesting stuff. I like Bradford, but I can't believe he's a senior to be already. Great speed and fluidity but to me he's a bit "lanky". Nobody would describe him as "compact" IMO, it's reminding me some of Markus Wheaton (who also could execute the fly sweep, don't get me wrong). The best fly sweep guys are the ones with short strides and high turnover of their footsteps, IMO.
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 15, 2019 12:08:16 GMT -8
My nominations for number 1 above are, in order of likely hood: - Jordan Whittley -- Finally a JC DL makes good??? After travails with the likes of Kuli, Peko and Evans, Jordan comes in and from game 1 is the Wilforkian immovable lump in the middle of the defense that makes everything else in the defensive plan click into place
- Jack Colletto -- Our very own Tebow (as a freshman). Jack will have 15 TDs (running or throwing), 2 point conversions, and 4th down conversions... and only 18 plays on the year
- Simon Sandberg -- I give it 50/50 odds that by game three we are calling Simon, "THOR". The Swedish Sledgehammer will play with reckless abandon and wreck havoc on opposing offenses and return teams. He is to raw to be a starter or even get very regular playing time, but he will have a handful of spectacular sacks and targeting penalties to his name
In terms of OL minutiae, less than the players themselves, and more than any other position group, I think the main key to OL play is the OL coach. All of our great O-Lines had Cavs dirty dog grit, determination and nastiness. We have had some creat individual players on the O-Line in the last couple decades, many of them "diamonds in the rough", and it took a good coach to polish those big boys up. Honestly, after the head coach, I think the O-Line coach is the next ost important on a football team, more than even either coordinator. I really think that Jim Michalczik is the real deal. I also think Eldridge is the real deal, but for the success of the O-Line this year and going forward Jim Michalczik is the real minutiae.
The WR room is FULL, it is buldging at the seams! We have SO much talent in that group right and the RB group right now that fighting for playing time and balls thrown your way will be a real challenge for even some very good players. That being said it will not suprise me if by the end of the year the three guys with the most targets and catches are Hodgins, Bradford and Lindsey. Also keep an eye out for carries for Tyjon. Tyjon is a bigger / thicker player than you would expect for a fast WR. Bradford has been our fly sweep guy at times, but, IMHO doesn't really excel at it, I expect Tyjon to take over that role.
ok now we are talking.. this is interesting stuff. I like Bradford, but I can't believe he's a senior to be already. Great speed and fluidity but to me he's a bit "lanky". Nobody would describe him as "compact" IMO, it's reminding me some of Markus Wheaton (who also could execute the fly sweep, don't get me wrong). The best fly sweep guys are the ones with short strides and high turnover of their footsteps, IMO. IMO the best fly sweep guys are the ones who can see the gaps as they develop and cut on a dime. Speed is one thing, but if the defense has spread out to contain the sideline, the best fly guy is going to find that gap in-between. That is where the guy above in the booth has been paying attention and lets the guy getting the ball know what the tendencies have been.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 15, 2019 23:56:34 GMT -8
ok now we are talking.. this is interesting stuff. I like Bradford, but I can't believe he's a senior to be already. Great speed and fluidity but to me he's a bit "lanky". Nobody would describe him as "compact" IMO, it's reminding me some of Markus Wheaton (who also could execute the fly sweep, don't get me wrong). The best fly sweep guys are the ones with short strides and high turnover of their footsteps, IMO. IMO the best fly sweep guys are the ones who can see the gaps as they develop and cut on a dime. Speed is one thing, but if the defense has spread out to contain the sideline, the best fly guy is going to find that gap in-between. That is where the guy above in the booth has been paying attention and lets the guy getting the ball know what the tendencies have been. Running a "sweep"... whether a toss or fly is a special talent, not every RB or WR is good at it. Some "sweeps" are designed to be inside or outside according to a blocking scheme, but the runner still has to read gaps and then be able to accelerate thru them. It is a bit of patience... to see the blocking and D reaction... where are the "opposite colored shirts"? Stretching the play... plant and get inside. Pinned... then accelerate to sideline and get vertical. And, a lot of feel/acceleration vs all out speed. A lot of great RBs were/are awesome between the TEs, but not in toss/sweeps. The "fly" is even more difficult because of being "flatter", closer proximity the the LOS. The runner has less peripheral vision to his backside and its a sharper cut to get vertical.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:19:34 GMT -8
ok now we are talking.. this is interesting stuff. I like Bradford, but I can't believe he's a senior to be already. Great speed and fluidity but to me he's a bit "lanky". Nobody would describe him as "compact" IMO, it's reminding me some of Markus Wheaton (who also could execute the fly sweep, don't get me wrong). The best fly sweep guys are the ones with short strides and high turnover of their footsteps, IMO. IMO the best fly sweep guys are the ones who can see the gaps as they develop and cut on a dime. Speed is one thing, but if the defense has spread out to contain the sideline, the best fly guy is going to find that gap in-between. That is where the guy above in the booth has been paying attention and lets the guy getting the ball know what the tendencies have been. Colletto is no joke in the red zone. Not many qbs, even the far more nifty running qbs have that knack for the goaline. Even when defenses knew it was coming he gets leverage on them. Not sure how he does it but I hope they use his running threat with a pull-up pass to a tight end or even use him in long field situations to get first downs. I don't know his potential as a passer but the goal line passes require a lot of touch. The high toss to the TE at the backline can be a safe option but the qb has to almost throw it like a jump shot to give it the right arc.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jul 18, 2019 16:51:14 GMT -8
You mean to tell me you dropped by Prothro and NO ONE was running routes?! not only was there no running routes, it was a cementary, man. Kinda like Reser on game day last couple years....... .... oooooooohhhhhhhhhh !
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Post by abureid on Jul 18, 2019 19:50:12 GMT -8
Reckless abandon always excites me Simon Sandberg -- I give it 50/50 odds that by game three we are calling Simon, "THOR". The Swedish Sledgehammer will play with reckless abandon and wreck havoc on opposing offenses and return teams. He is to raw to be a starter or even get very regular playing time, but he will have a handful of spectacular sacks and targeting penalties to his name
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