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Post by TheGlove on Aug 8, 2019 8:22:09 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 9:26:09 GMT -8
playing bye rested teams two weeks in a row. Utah at home then at Cal. Going to have to catch them napping.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 8, 2019 10:07:20 GMT -8
playing bye rested teams two weeks in a row. Utah at home then at Cal. Going to have to catch them napping. Like we were last year off our bye?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 8, 2019 12:28:02 GMT -8
The Stanford game looks like a trap game for the Cardinal. Stanford plays the four weekends before, and Oregon State will be fresh off of a bye. The game is a road trip for the Cardinal sandwiched between home games against Oregon and Washington.
UCLA will be on its sixth consecutive weekend of playing the week after.
Arizona will be on week six of playing after a brutal road trip to the Coliseum and the Farm with Oregon State coming off of a bye.
The rest of the schedule sets up generally poorly.
Any guesses as to the only team to play each of the final five weekends?
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Post by obf on Aug 8, 2019 12:43:16 GMT -8
The Stanford game looks like a trap game for the Cardinal. Stanford plays the four weekends before, and Oregon State will be fresh off of a bye. The game is a road trip for the Cardinal sandwiched between home games against Oregon and Washington. UCLA will be on its sixth consecutive weekend of playing the week after. Arizona will be on week six of playing after a brutal road trip to the Coliseum and the Farm with Oregon State coming off of a bye. The rest of the schedule sets up generally poorly. Any guesses as to the only team to play each of the final five weekends?The Beavs of course, although I much prefer that to the 7 games in a row slog that the toe jams end their season on (with a trailing bye.... I mean unless they go to the championship game that bye is totally worthless) It is too bad we miss out on Colorado, who was also featured in the "worst 15 teams in all of college football" article this year. Every team has at least one stretch of 5 games in a row, 5 in a row is our longest stretch, many teams have 6 or 7 consequtive weeks playing. USC looks to have gotten the biggest thumb in the eye scheduale. They play 5 in a row and then 7 in a row, and then the aforementioned usless trailing bye. Utah looks like they have the most friendly schedulae with well spaced byes and missing the *ucks and trees.
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Post by obf on Aug 8, 2019 13:02:48 GMT -8
One more schedule related question.... It looks like three pac-12 teams play Hawaii. How come none of them chose to take advantage of the 13th game afforded to those who play Hawaii? Seems like an extra home game, and tune up could only help the teams involved.
If the Beavs were playing, lets say, Portland State (could even be a neat neutral site game at Providence Field or something) the weekend BEFORE the Cowboy game, seems like a big advantage, both in terms of a little extra coin and live game experience.
Of course there is always the chance of injury, which I assume is the reason none of the teams went with the 13th game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 13:05:37 GMT -8
The Stanford game looks like a trap game for the Cardinal. Stanford plays the four weekends before, and Oregon State will be fresh off of a bye. The game is a road trip for the Cardinal sandwiched between home games against Oregon and Washington. UCLA will be on its sixth consecutive weekend of playing the week after. Arizona will be on week six of playing after a brutal road trip to the Coliseum and the Farm with Oregon State coming off of a bye. The rest of the schedule sets up generally poorly.Any guesses as to the only team to play each of the final five weekends? i disagree. Yes it wouldnt be a good schedule to win the pac 12 north but i think is it a good schedule to get bowl eligible. As you said, there is at least 1 trap game and 3 probably 4 other home games against none top 25 teams. There is a chance for momentum at the beginning of the schedule where the wins are and if the beavs get to the last 4 (tough) games needing only 1 win it will be exciting.
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 8, 2019 13:17:40 GMT -8
It is cool, just stings a little to see the "accomplishment points" graphic for OSU - 1946 to present - ouch!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 8, 2019 14:58:30 GMT -8
One more schedule related question.... It looks like three pac-12 teams play Hawaii. How come none of them chose to take advantage of the 13th game afforded to those who play Hawaii? Seems like an extra home game, and tune up could only help the teams involved. If the Beavs were playing, lets say, Portland State (could even be a neat neutral site game at Providence Field or something) the weekend BEFORE the Cowboy game, seems like a big advantage, both in terms of a little extra coin and live game experience. Of course there is always the chance of injury, which I assume is the reason none of the teams went with the 13th game. You only get a 13th game for playing in Hawai'i. Washington does not qualify for a 13th game. Arizona actually plays during week 0. The Wildcats opted for a bye the week after Hawai'i rather than schedule a game in that spot. By scheduling in week 0, Arizona gets an extra week of practice. Oregon State can schedule a 13th game, which would entitle the Beavers to schedule a week 0 game and entitle Oregon State to an additional week of Fall Camp. If Oregon State scheduled a 13th game, it could move the Cal Poly game to week 0. It could then schedule a replacement game in week 3 or week 4. Scheduling a second FCS team would be foolish bowl-wise, because Oregon State would then have to beat at least six FBS teams to qualify for a bowl. A tune-up would be helpful, but so is being able to surprise Oklahoma State on week 1 without any game tapes. It worked against Wisconsin in 2012. The best six-game start in program history followed.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 8, 2019 19:49:46 GMT -8
playing bye rested teams two weeks in a row. Utah at home then at Cal. Going to have to catch them napping. Notre Dame plays SEVEN teams coming off a bye. Insane!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 5:44:52 GMT -8
playing bye rested teams two weeks in a row. Utah at home then at Cal. Going to have to catch them napping. Notre Dame plays SEVEN teams coming off a bye. Insane! Wilky is going to do some research and find out teams coming off byes only win 58% of the time or something.
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 9, 2019 7:28:39 GMT -8
Notre Dame plays SEVEN teams coming off a bye. Insane! Wilky is going to do some research and find out teams coming off byes only win 58% of the time or something. 50% of the time, they win every time.
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Post by ag87 on Aug 9, 2019 8:17:36 GMT -8
Notre Dame plays SEVEN teams coming off a bye. Insane! Wilky is going to do some research and find out teams coming off byes only win 58% of the time or something. There are stats that exist like that. The gamblers try to track all situations. After MiamiFL beat #3 Notre Dame 41-8 in 2017, I remember hearing (I'm making up the numbers a little bit) that teams that won outright against a ranked Notre Dame were 1-16 against the spread their following game. Miami was hosting Virginia the next week at -17. Miami won 44-28 but Virginia led early in the 4th quarter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 12:59:31 GMT -8
Wilky is going to do some research and find out teams coming off byes only win 58% of the time or something. There are stats that exist like that. The gamblers try to track all situations. After MiamiFL beat #3 Notre Dame 41-8 in 2017, I remember hearing (I'm making up the numbers a little bit) that teams that won outright against a ranked Notre Dame were 1-16 against the spread their following game. Miami was hosting Virginia the next week at -17. Miami won 44-28 but Virginia led early in the 4th quarter. Even if that's slightly off its a weird stat that one.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 9, 2019 16:09:40 GMT -8
There are stats that exist like that. The gamblers try to track all situations. After MiamiFL beat #3 Notre Dame 41-8 in 2017, I remember hearing (I'm making up the numbers a little bit) that teams that won outright against a ranked Notre Dame were 1-16 against the spread their following game. Miami was hosting Virginia the next week at -17. Miami won 44-28 but Virginia led early in the 4th quarter. Even if that's slightly off its a weird stat that one. Teams that beat Notre Dame tend to be overrated and beat up, because the Irish are usually overrated but playing them is generally a grind. Miami was -17 some places but up to -19.5 at others. The Canes had already clinched the whatever-the-heck their nonsense division is called and only had to beat 6-4 Virginia and 4-6 Pittsburgh on the road on a short week to set up an a #1-#2 ACC Championship Game with Clemson. Up until 11 minutes left in the third, it was 28-14 Virginia. Miami pulled within 28-21 with 10:04 left in the third and then tied it up seven seconds later on a pick-six. The game was tied until 21 seconds left in the third quarter, when the Canes kicked a field goal to go up 31-28. The game stayed the same until Virginia went for it on 4th-and-3 in Miami territory. The Canes forced a sack and then took the ball down and scored a touchdown to go up 37-28 with 4:03 left. The Cavs went for it 4th-and-six on their own 29, but the fourth-down pass fell incomplete. Miami drove the 29 yards to go up 44-28. After looking like geniuses most of the game, those people with Virginia tickets had to be sweating at the end. Fortunately for them, the Cavs ran two running plays and completed a pass to end the game. Miami went to Pitt and lost six days later. Eight days later, Clemson beat Miami in basically a home game by 35. Miami, as the second-best team in the ACC, was invited to the Orange Bowl, basically a home game. They got Wisconsin, the Badgers winning by 10.
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