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Post by bvrbooster on Dec 6, 2023 17:34:25 GMT -8
Does anyone know why the NCAA opens the portal in early December, just before bowl season? I assume all these players who are entering will not be participating in the bowl game. Teams like OSU will be decimated, and fans who buy tickets will see a bunch of second or third stringers.
Why not January 4 instead of December 4?
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Post by beaverology on Dec 6, 2023 17:36:21 GMT -8
If they were planning on transferring, they'd probably just opt out of the bowl game, wait, then enter the portal in January.
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 6, 2023 18:08:28 GMT -8
The answer is, there is no good time or right time, and I can only imagine turning on a bowl game to see Velling or Mascarenas-Arnold playing for their new squad, if they make a quick decision. I'd like to know, do these guys have agents? It's only practical.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 6, 2023 19:31:49 GMT -8
I'm assuming the NCAA thought right after the season would be a proper time because kids would have tthe opportunity to switch schools and time their academic calendars and make it to spring practice with the new team.
They made it too fricken easy. They should have 1 portal in May thru June or July after spring practices.
Kids who feel they aren't getting a chance after spring practice could transfer. Kids who think they are such great players they can walk into a new program in August and be starting in September could transfer. Kids who's personsl situations truly change and need to switch schools could transfer.
It'd be a lot of wild west action no matter when the portal opens, but days after a season's end, when emotions are probably at their peak, seems to be a disaster for just about everyone.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 6, 2023 19:36:27 GMT -8
I'm assuming the NCAA thought right after the season would be a proper time because kids would have tthe opportunity to switch schools and time their academic calendars and make it to spring practice with the new team. They made it too fricken easy. They should have 1 portal in May thru June or July after spring practices. Kids who feel they aren't getting a chance after spring practice could transfer. Kids who think they are such great players they can walk into a new program in August and be starting in September could transfer. Kids who's personsl situations truly change and need to switch schools could transfer. It'd be a lot of wild west action no matter when the portal opens, but days after a season's end, when emotions are probably at their peak, seems to be a disaster for just about everyone. There is a second transfer portal window in April.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Dec 6, 2023 19:53:05 GMT -8
Does anyone know why the NCAA opens the portal in early December, just before bowl season? I assume all these players who are entering will not be participating in the bowl game. Teams like OSU will be decimated, and fans who buy tickets will see a bunch of second or third stringers. Why not January 4 instead of December 4? well the NCAA doesn't care about fans and only the cfp matters so ...
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 6, 2023 19:58:45 GMT -8
Does anyone know why the NCAA opens the portal in early December, just before bowl season? I assume all these players who are entering will not be participating in the bowl game. Teams like OSU will be decimated, and fans who buy tickets will see a bunch of second or third stringers. Why not January 4 instead of December 4? Because then students in the Semester system could not effectively transfer?
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Post by speakthetruth on Dec 6, 2023 20:02:05 GMT -8
So you are saying that these transfers really care about education? Do the coaches care about education? Hell do these schools care about education?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 6, 2023 20:05:09 GMT -8
So you are saying that these transfers really care about education? Do the coaches care about education? Hell do these schools care about education? A small percentage of people are taking advantage of the system. But the overwhelming majority of student-athletes I believe are using the portal the right way, as are a majority of schools. Do not allow a small percentage of bad apples spoil the bunch.
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Dec 6, 2023 20:09:21 GMT -8
So you are saying that these transfers really care about education? Do the coaches care about education? Hell do these schools care about education? Big, if true.
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 6, 2023 22:06:17 GMT -8
Does anyone know why the NCAA opens the portal in early December, just before bowl season? I assume all these players who are entering will not be participating in the bowl game. Teams like OSU will be decimated, and fans who buy tickets will see a bunch of second or third stringers. Why not January 4 instead of December 4? OSU will be no more "decimated" than most other teams. I suspect there are lots of reasons for the date. Probably some of it has to do with connecting it with LOI signing. Gives programs and players time enough to connect up with programs that have available scholarships, and schools to be able to fill out their classes instead of over signing. That said, I'm still not sure what keeps schools from signing 85 scholarship players, and then bringing in 20 "walk-ons" who are making plenty of NIL $$$ to cover their tuition, housing, etc costs + a nice bit of spending money.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 7, 2023 9:28:06 GMT -8
Does anyone know why the NCAA opens the portal in early December, just before bowl season? I assume all these players who are entering will not be participating in the bowl game. Teams like OSU will be decimated, and fans who buy tickets will see a bunch of second or third stringers. Why not January 4 instead of December 4? Because players going into the portal need time to be recruited, to take visits and to get their academic stuff and personal belongings in order so they can show up at their new school in January ready for the next term/semester. Leases must be cancelled, new accommodations must be found, etc.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 7, 2023 21:49:48 GMT -8
Does anyone know why the NCAA opens the portal in early December, just before bowl season? I assume all these players who are entering will not be participating in the bowl game. Teams like OSU will be decimated, and fans who buy tickets will see a bunch of second or third stringers. Why not January 4 instead of December 4? Because players going into the portal need time to be recruited, to take visits and to get their academic stuff and personal belongings in order so they can show up at their new school in January ready for the next term/semester. Leases must be cancelled, new accommodations must be found, etc. You said it so much better than my attempt above.
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Post by beaver1989 on Dec 7, 2023 22:31:30 GMT -8
"Rah Rah College Football." Bowl games suck in this current idiocy.
I remember when #1 picks like Vinny Testaverde played in their Bowl games.
Now we have NFL scrubs or JAG's sitting out because they might get an "Owey."
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 8, 2023 4:30:36 GMT -8
"Rah Rah College Football." Bowl games suck in this current idiocy. I remember when #1 picks like Vinny Testaverde played in their Bowl games. Now we have NFL scrubs or JAG's sitting out because they might get an "Owey." Well then don’t watch them. Vinny’s final game was essentially for national championship. How many players opted out of last year’s NC game? Also, I believe Miami played in 12 games in Vinny’s senior year including the bowl game. Most if not all teams have already played 12 (13 if in conf championship). I also believe Vinny signed a 6 year, $8.2M contract coming out of college. Not even sure if any of that was guaranteed. Bryce Young signed a 4 year contract for a shade under $38M — all of it guaranteed I believe. And I’ll point out he played in his bowl game. Based on the average per season salary, Vinny’s first contract was equivalent to the contract received by the 82nd pick in this past draft. And that player was signed for 2 less years and he received nearly $1M in guaranteed money. On a total money basis, his contract was equivalent to the player chosen 44th this year — and that player received just under $6M guaranteed. Sure it sucks that some NFL-bound players opt out — and is made worse by the portal — but I don’t blame them in the least. The economics are too great to maintain a “just rub mud on it” mentality just so you and others can have things like it used to be when you were younger. If it gets to be unbearable for you, just find a school 5 miles from you that is uphill both to and from it, discard your shoes and start walking for old times’ sake. Schools have been making bushels full of money off these players for years. Any player opting out of a bowl game has already seen his team play in the same amount of games that Vinny did his senior year. And they now will be adding more games for some schools with the expansion of the playoffs. Finally, not sure if Vinny was the right guy to pick for your illustration since I’m guessing that with his performance, in retrospect more than a few Hurricanes fans wish he had opted out.
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