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Post by RenoBeaver on Jul 30, 2018 18:57:59 GMT -8
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Post by sagebrush on Jul 30, 2018 19:34:37 GMT -8
Nall faces an uphill battle to make any team due to being undrafted, no financial investment in him, and a lack of athleticism.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jul 30, 2018 21:00:26 GMT -8
All faces an uphill battle to make any team due to being undrafted, no financial investment in him, and a lack of athleticism. Certainly the first two, but lack of athleticism? Hahahahahaha
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 30, 2018 22:54:35 GMT -8
All faces an uphill battle to make any team due to being undrafted, no financial investment in him, and a lack of athleticism. Certainly the first two, but lack of athleticism? Hahahahahaha Well... not a slam on Ryan, but as a college RB he was not elite in that regard. The NFL is full of physical freaks. In comparison Nall is not winning a spot with better athleticism at that level.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 6:20:23 GMT -8
Certainly the first two, but lack of athleticism? Hahahahahaha Well... not a slam on Ryan, but as a college RB he was not elite in that regard. The NFL is full of physical freaks. In comparison Nall is not winning a spot with better athleticism at that level. I think you are wrong. Nall has enough speed to get to the soft spot in the flat and proven very good hands to catch it once he gets there. He's also quite big enough to be a personal protector if he stays in the pocket. That's a 3rd down specialist right there. Doesn't need to be a decathlete to make the roster. He just needs to show a couple of skills the other guys dont have. He may not make the game day roster but he will at least be on the taxi squad for starters. By the way thanks for the links lvbeaver. I forgot the Chicago Bears OC is mark helfrich OC. That can only help Nall's chances.
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Post by EOBeav on Jul 31, 2018 7:10:23 GMT -8
That run was classic Ryan Nall.
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Post by atownbeaver on Jul 31, 2018 7:13:39 GMT -8
All faces an uphill battle to make any team due to being undrafted, no financial investment in him, and a lack of athleticism. Certainly the first two, but lack of athleticism? Hahahahahaha In the big picture, compared to other NFL players, he isn't as dynamic as some. But for his size and at his position, he has good speed and good moves. I believe he absolutely has the ability to be a the NFL level. I think it just depends on fit and opportunity and a bit of luck. He isn't shifty like a scat back or anything, but he has great open field speed and I think an okay enough amount of agility in between the tackles. Hell, Terron Ward has made a roster with Atlanta and even played in games for going on 4 years now. in no universe are you going to convince me ward is more athletic than Nall.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 31, 2018 7:20:32 GMT -8
Ward was a better runner than credited for at OSU. I still think he should have been the starter his senior year. Didn't hurt his status with the scouts that he ran a 4.41 40 on his pro day workout.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 8:02:34 GMT -8
Ward was a better runner than credited for at OSU. I still think he should have been the starter his senior year. Didn't hurt his status with the scouts that he ran a 4.41 40 on his pro day workout. both running backs but that's a total apples and oranges comparison. Tacklers can't just grab Nall and slow him down the way they can on Ward. But squaring up on Nall isn't that easy because he is more nifty than he should be. Not sure what his special teams niche is or if he will stay healthy but its clear he is already raising eyebrows.
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Post by seastape on Jul 31, 2018 8:19:22 GMT -8
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Post by atownbeaver on Jul 31, 2018 8:31:05 GMT -8
Bears are pretty loaded at RB, so it is still an uphill battle. But a strong camp, some buzz, and making the most out of his preseason snaps will set him up to either bump a guy for a roster spot, be on a PS, or be high on the watch list for a waiver wire pick up if a player goes down in the year.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jul 31, 2018 8:41:58 GMT -8
Certainly the first two, but lack of athleticism? Hahahahahaha In the big picture, compared to other NFL players, he isn't as dynamic as some. But for his size and at his position, he has good speed and good moves. I believe he absolutely has the ability to be a the NFL level. I think it just depends on fit and opportunity and a bit of luck. He isn't shifty like a scat back or anything, but he has great open field speed and I think an okay enough amount of agility in between the tackles. Hell, Terron Ward has made a roster with Atlanta and even played in games for going on 4 years now. in no universe are you going to convince me ward is more athletic than Nall. Exactly. He's 240 lbs!
Not athletic? Go watch is highlight reel from his Jr. year and tell me he's not "athletic". Is he an elite RB? No. But it's an absurd comment. Define "athletic". dude can make sharp moves (he did it in the clip!), keep his balance and feet under him, can jump over defenders, can push defenders out of his way, and has decent speed to boot for a big man. But he's not "athletic".
Not sure he makes an NFL 45 man roster, but he'll be on someone's practice squad.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 31, 2018 8:46:24 GMT -8
Well... not a slam on Ryan, but as a college RB he was not elite in that regard. The NFL is full of physical freaks. In comparison Nall is not winning a spot with better athleticism at that level. I think you are wrong. Nall has enough speed to get to the soft spot in the flat and proven very good hands to catch it once he gets there. He's also quite big enough to be a personal protector if he stays in the pocket. That's a 3rd down specialist right there. Doesn't need to be a decathlete to make the roster. He just needs to show a couple of skills the other guys dont have. He may not make the game day roster but he will at least be on the taxi squad for starters. By the way thanks for the links lvbeaver. I forgot the Chicago Bears OC is mark helfrich OC. That can only help Nall's chances. I never mentioned roster, playing, etc. Simply that Ryan is NOT some physical speciman, nor super athletic in terms of NFL standards. He's roster material not because he's more athletic, but a more complete/versatile type of back.
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Post by seastape on Jul 31, 2018 9:18:55 GMT -8
Bears are pretty loaded at RB, so it is still an uphill battle. But a strong camp, some buzz, and making the most out of his preseason snaps will set him up to either bump a guy for a roster spot, be on a PS, or be high on the watch list for a waiver wire pick up if a player goes down in the year. Agreed. Most stuff I've read is that Cohen and Howard are locks to make the team with Cunningham most likely in as well. Three other guys, including Nall, trying to get that fourth spot. One of those three (Burton) is a straight FB that may be Nall's biggest competition. Bad news: Burton's been around for 3 years and already has a reputation as a good blocker who can run routes and play on special teams. Nall needs to show that he is better than that guy. Good news: Cohen is showing that he can play WR and Nall might have a place on the team as a FB who "converts" to TB when Cohen goes in motion to become a receiver. Burton doesn't carry the ball much and Nall is most likely a better straight RB than Burton.
Nall's got a shot, but it's still an uphill battle.
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Post by kersting13 on Jul 31, 2018 11:44:16 GMT -8
In the big picture, compared to other NFL players, he isn't as dynamic as some. But for his size and at his position, he has good speed and good moves. I believe he absolutely has the ability to be a the NFL level. I think it just depends on fit and opportunity and a bit of luck. He isn't shifty like a scat back or anything, but he has great open field speed and I think an okay enough amount of agility in between the tackles. Hell, Terron Ward has made a roster with Atlanta and even played in games for going on 4 years now. in no universe are you going to convince me ward is more athletic than Nall. Exactly. He's 240 lbs!
Not athletic? Go watch is highlight reel from his Jr. year and tell me he's not "athletic". Is he an elite RB? No. But it's an absurd comment. Define "athletic". dude can make sharp moves (he did it in the clip!), keep his balance and feet under him, can jump over defenders, can push defenders out of his way, and has decent speed to boot for a big man. But he's not "athletic".
Not sure he makes an NFL 45 man roster, but he'll be on someone's practice squad.
53 men on an NFL roster, 46 active on game day. 10 additional spots on the practice squad.
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