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Post by RenoBeaver on Jun 16, 2020 16:18:14 GMT -8
Not sure if it's been done before - but with Hass and Simonton nominated for HOF and seeing some of the comments - interested to know who you think is the best by position.
I know Poyer and Hass would make my list, but I dont think Simonton would be my top RB, still think Jackson was best.
Thought I'd add favorite too because how many here actually saw Terry Baker play.
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Post by stdyedy on Jun 16, 2020 17:21:52 GMT -8
I saw Terry play football and basketball. Pretty fair at both
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Post by rafer on Jun 17, 2020 9:51:31 GMT -8
Not sure if it's been done before - but with Hass and Simonton nominated for HOF and seeing some of the comments - interested to know who you think is the best by position. I know Poyer and Hass would make my list, but I dont think Simonton would be my top RB, still think Jackson was best. Thought I'd add favorite too because how many here actually saw Terry Baker play. Several times, he was good!! :-) Could have played baseball too, and very well .....
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Post by sagebrush on Jun 17, 2020 10:31:18 GMT -8
OL--Mike Kuykendall. I say OL because he played every OL position in his career. I remember a couple memorable games. UW had a DT who had a good NFL career who did not have an impact against OSU. Questioned why in a presser after the game why his name wasn't called a lot, he said the guy in front of him had a lot to do with it. It was MK. Another was ASU who had an all-American DE and MK was playing LT. Freaking dominated him. The guy did get a sack on DA. We all know that DA had a problem stepping up in the pocket. On the sack in question, MK pushed the guy wide and deep like he was supposed to. DA, instead of stepping up, turned left and backwards and literally ran into the guy who was about two yards deep and three yards wide of the pocket. Would not have blamed MK if he would have concussed DA with a forearm to the helmet.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jun 17, 2020 10:52:25 GMT -8
Al Afalava. That dude ALWAYS played with an extra rock in his sack!
Go Beavs!!
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Post by irimi on Jun 17, 2020 11:45:29 GMT -8
Saw a guy once kick off for the Beavs and then tackle Christian McCaffrey. Maybe the single most talked about play in OSU football history. They talked about it for years. LOL!
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 17, 2020 11:46:00 GMT -8
Not sure if it's been done before - but with Hass and Simonton nominated for HOF and seeing some of the comments - interested to know who you think is the best by position. I know Poyer and Hass would make my list, but I dont think Simonton would be my top RB, still think Jackson was best. Thought I'd add favorite too because how many here actually saw Terry Baker play. All time best, only in college, only for the Beavers, I have seen with my own eyes playing. Not considering any worthy players of yore that I haven't actually seen live. so that give me a real functional range of about 1990-ish to now. I can't really remember players too well from the '80s, but I still have pretty good memory of the '90s teams. Most of these players will be 2000 forward though, with good reason. we had some poo teams in the dark years... Offense: QB: Mannion, followed by DA. (all due respect to Niner of course) RB: Guh, this one is really hard honestly. I think I have to go Jackson, but it is pretty neck and neck with Quizz. Quizz was so dynamic, but Jackson was such a good, pure RB that was ALSO pretty dynamic. WR: Mike Hass then Cooks is high as well, but I think Hass is actually a better route runner and had better hands. Cooks had the god given speed though. TE: Euhus and Joe Newton. I think it has only been fairly recently in our history, even in Mike Riley years that the TE position became a significant pass catching, dynamic role. Euhus was probably a better all around player. Newton was a huge redzone guy and general athletic freak kinda guy. Injury marred Newtons career unfortunately OL: I will list a couple because as is kinda history, our best players often played multiple positions, but I will try to do primary guard, center, tackle player at least. Seumalo (all three, really), Schuening (Mostly guard, some tackle), De Van (center), Levitre (both tackles) Defense CB: Weathersby. probably to this day still the smoothest CB I have seen. ol' Lazy D. Safeties/Nickels: Afalava (one of the hardest hitters I have seen live) Poyer (simply one of the best all around DBs I have seen live) an in maybe an odd ball pick, Mitch Meeuwsen, guy was a ball hawk like I have not previously seen before. In many ways, similar to how Poyer uses his instinct to cover for fairly average measurables, Mitch was always just in the right place at the right time. LBs: Nick Barnett, Richard Seiglar, Trent Bray (the latter two both so much for the attitude they brought to the field and being such classic, disruptive, slobberknocking MLBs we have had a couple more like them, but they stick out) and Hamilcar right now. DL: Dwan Edwards, Stephen Paea, certainly as DTs. I think I might have to go with Crichton at DE, and I would also go with Dylan Wynn, I think he would of been a bigger monster had he not been forced inside by necessity. he was a better end than a tackle for sure. a monster and unappreciated also in my opinion. OSU's DE history is not as strong as it's DT history I think. Lots of good... not as many "great" Kicker: Gotta go with "shank 3 extra points to Lou Groza winner, lifetime channel movie storyline guy: Alexis Serna. Punter: Hekker, as maligned in college as he was, he really was great (he gets too much s%#t for that negative punt). Paulescu was very good as well.
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Post by fishbeav on Jun 17, 2020 13:21:10 GMT -8
OL the best O-lineman at OSU i thought was John Didion the center on the Giant Killers. He wass an all american who went on to play in the NFL.
LB is a shocker. Bill Enyart. He only played there one year before going back to fullback but in one year was its team all pack 8.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 17, 2020 14:24:04 GMT -8
Let's do 1985-present, the last 35 seasons.
How about:
QB: Erik Wilhelm FB: Pat Chaffey TB: Steven Jackson WR: Brandin Cooks WR: Mike Hass WR: Markus Wheaton TE: Tim Euhus LT: Sean Harlow LG: Roy Schuening C: Isaac Seumalo RG: Alai Kalaniuvalu RT: Andy Levitre
DE: Scott Crichton DT: Dwan Edwards NT: Esera Tuaolo DT: Stephen Paea DE: DeLawrence Grant Sam: Nick Barnett Mike: Richard Seigler Will: James Allen CB: Keenan Lewis SS: Sabby Piscitelli FS: Reggie Tongue CB: Dennis Weathersby
K: Alexis Serna P: Johnny Hekker
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jun 17, 2020 14:48:42 GMT -8
Not sure if it's been done before - but with Hass and Simonton nominated for HOF and seeing some of the comments - interested to know who you think is the best by position. I know Poyer and Hass would make my list, but I dont think Simonton would be my top RB, still think Jackson was best. Thought I'd add favorite too because how many here actually saw Terry Baker play. All time best, only in college, only for the Beavers, I have seen with my own eyes playing. Not considering any worthy players of yore that I haven't actually seen live. so that give me a real functional range of about 1990-ish to now. I can't really remember players too well from the '80s, but I still have pretty good memory of the '90s teams. Most of these players will be 2000 forward though, with good reason. we had some poo teams in the dark years... Offense: QB: Mannion, followed by DA. (all due respect to Niner of course) RB: Guh, this one is really hard honestly. I think I have to go Jackson, but it is pretty neck and neck with Quizz. Quizz was so dynamic, but Jackson was such a good, pure RB that was ALSO pretty dynamic. WR: Mike Hass then Cooks is high as well, but I think Hass is actually a better route runner and had better hands. Cooks had the god given speed though. TE: Euhus and Joe Newton. I think it has only been fairly recently in our history, even in Mike Riley years that the TE position became a significant pass catching, dynamic role. Euhus was probably a better all around player. Newton was a huge redzone guy and general athletic freak kinda guy. Injury marred Newtons career unfortunately OL: I will list a couple because as is kinda history, our best players often played multiple positions, but I will try to do primary guard, center, tackle player at least. Seumalo (all three, really), Schuening (Mostly guard, some tackle), De Van (center), Levitre (both tackles) Defense CB: Weathersby. probably to this day still the smoothest CB I have seen. ol' Lazy D. Safeties/Nickels: Afalava (one of the hardest hitters I have seen live) Poyer (simply one of the best all around DBs I have seen live) an in maybe an odd ball pick, Mitch Meeuwsen, guy was a ball hawk like I have not previously seen before. In many ways, similar to how Poyer uses his instinct to cover for fairly average measurables, Mitch was always just in the right place at the right time. LBs: Nick Barnett, Richard Seiglar, Trent Bray (the latter two both so much for the attitude they brought to the field and being such classic, disruptive, slobberknocking MLBs we have had a couple more like them, but they stick out) and Hamilcar right now. DL: Dwan Edwards, Stephen Paea, certainly as DTs. I think I might have to go with Crichton at DE, and I would also go with Dylan Wynn, I think he would of been a bigger monster had he not been forced inside by necessity. he was a better end than a tackle for sure. a monster and unappreciated also in my opinion. OSU's DE history is not as strong as it's DT history I think. Lots of good... not as many "great" Kicker: Gotta go with "shank 3 extra points to Lou Groza winner, lifetime channel movie storyline guy: Alexis Serna. Punter: Hekker, as maligned in college as he was, he really was great (he gets too much s%#t for that negative punt). Paulescu was very good as well. Until you wrote this, I had totally forgot about Mitch Meuwson
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Post by greshambeaver on Jun 17, 2020 14:54:10 GMT -8
I'll add Jeremy Perry, before the injuries was one of the best of all time. Too bad!
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 17, 2020 15:34:11 GMT -8
All time best, only in college, only for the Beavers, I have seen with my own eyes playing. Not considering any worthy players of yore that I haven't actually seen live. so that give me a real functional range of about 1990-ish to now. I can't really remember players too well from the '80s, but I still have pretty good memory of the '90s teams. Most of these players will be 2000 forward though, with good reason. we had some poo teams in the dark years... Offense: QB: Mannion, followed by DA. (all due respect to Niner of course) RB: Guh, this one is really hard honestly. I think I have to go Jackson, but it is pretty neck and neck with Quizz. Quizz was so dynamic, but Jackson was such a good, pure RB that was ALSO pretty dynamic. WR: Mike Hass then Cooks is high as well, but I think Hass is actually a better route runner and had better hands. Cooks had the god given speed though. TE: Euhus and Joe Newton. I think it has only been fairly recently in our history, even in Mike Riley years that the TE position became a significant pass catching, dynamic role. Euhus was probably a better all around player. Newton was a huge redzone guy and general athletic freak kinda guy. Injury marred Newtons career unfortunately OL: I will list a couple because as is kinda history, our best players often played multiple positions, but I will try to do primary guard, center, tackle player at least. Seumalo (all three, really), Schuening (Mostly guard, some tackle), De Van (center), Levitre (both tackles) Defense CB: Weathersby. probably to this day still the smoothest CB I have seen. ol' Lazy D. Safeties/Nickels: Afalava (one of the hardest hitters I have seen live) Poyer (simply one of the best all around DBs I have seen live) an in maybe an odd ball pick, Mitch Meeuwsen, guy was a ball hawk like I have not previously seen before. In many ways, similar to how Poyer uses his instinct to cover for fairly average measurables, Mitch was always just in the right place at the right time. LBs: Nick Barnett, Richard Seiglar, Trent Bray (the latter two both so much for the attitude they brought to the field and being such classic, disruptive, slobberknocking MLBs we have had a couple more like them, but they stick out) and Hamilcar right now. DL: Dwan Edwards, Stephen Paea, certainly as DTs. I think I might have to go with Crichton at DE, and I would also go with Dylan Wynn, I think he would of been a bigger monster had he not been forced inside by necessity. he was a better end than a tackle for sure. a monster and unappreciated also in my opinion. OSU's DE history is not as strong as it's DT history I think. Lots of good... not as many "great" Kicker: Gotta go with "shank 3 extra points to Lou Groza winner, lifetime channel movie storyline guy: Alexis Serna. Punter: Hekker, as maligned in college as he was, he really was great (he gets too much s%#t for that negative punt). Paulescu was very good as well. Until you wrote this, I had totally forgot about Mitch Meuwson I know right? but DAMN that dude could roam the field. It seems so strange that the OSU career leader in interceptions is forgotten. He leads the next closest (Sabby P) by 5. He was also a freshman all american, and ESPN all american, and first team all Pac player in his career. It is likely because his football career all but ended after OSU, and he is no longer involved with football at all. I also feel I slighted Bill Swancutt, Still OSU leader in sacks (until Hamilcar gets there!) and to Inoke Breckterfield. In the minimum they are in this conversation.
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Post by beaverstever on Jun 17, 2020 22:01:43 GMT -8
Let's do 1985-present, the last 35 seasons. How about: QB: Erik Wilhelm FB: Pat Chaffey TB: Steven Jackson WR: Brandin Cooks WR: Mike Hass WR: Markus Wheaton TE: Tim Euhus LT: Sean Harlow LG: Roy Schuening C: Isaac Seumalo RG: Alai Kalaniuvalu RT: Andy Levitre DE: Scott Crichton DT: Dwan Edwards NT: Esera Tuaolo DT: Stephen Paea DE: DeLawrence Grant Sam: Nick Barnett Mike: Richard Seigler Will: James Allen CB: Keenan Lewis SS: Sabby Piscitelli FS: Reggie Tongue CB: Dennis Weathersby K: Alexis Serna P: Johnny Hekker Completely agree on Reggie Tongue. I can't think of another player we've had that could single-handedly win games playing on the defensive side of the ball (GPII comes to mind as an equivalent in that respect). I remember this game well: www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-09-11-sp-37287-story.html
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Post by seastape on Jun 17, 2020 23:13:53 GMT -8
I have to do 1986-on, only time I saw dudes play live. This is a combination of best and favorite; I may put in a couple of dudes whom I just like a lot.
QB Matt Moore RB Simonton--definitely in the "favorites" category RB Quizz WR Hass WR Cooks WR Stroughter TE Euhus OL LeVitre OL Scheuning OL Seumalo OL Sean Harlow OL De Van
PK Serna
DE Grant DE Swancutt DT Tuaolo DT Eric Manning OLB Barnett OLB Doggett ILB Siegler ILB Bray CB Weathersby CB Poyer S Reggie Tongue S Meeuwsen; tempted to put in Cookus
P Paulescu
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Post by osuft3 on Jun 18, 2020 7:42:21 GMT -8
For you youngsters, here are a few "old-timers" to consider.
Danny Espalin was a solid safety and an interception machine.
Bob Grim was a great wing back.
Rockne Freitas at center anchored a solid line.
Somebody mentioned John Didion, but I would also include Jon Sandstrom and Jess Lewis from those teams.
Mel Easley at corner would blow you up. Ask Ahmad Rashad, AKA Bobby Moore.
Bill Enyart was a punishing runner at fullback.
More recently, I am surprised to see no love for James Rodgers, Chad Johnson, or TJ.
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