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Post by gart79 on Jul 9, 2020 8:15:18 GMT -8
Read yesterday that the Ivy League cancelled all fall sports, including football.
I wonder if that will lead to a bunch of athletes in the portal. Must be at least one or two junior or seniors that would be good enough to play in the PAC12.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jul 9, 2020 8:48:43 GMT -8
Read yesterday that the Ivy League cancelled all fall sports, including football. I wonder if that will lead to a bunch of athletes in the portal. Must be at least one or two junior or seniors that would be good enough to play in the PAC12. But would you trade an Ivy league degree for a season at (insert Pac12 school)? |
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 9, 2020 9:06:13 GMT -8
Read yesterday that the Ivy League cancelled all fall sports, including football. I wonder if that will lead to a bunch of athletes in the portal. Must be at least one or two junior or seniors that would be good enough to play in the PAC12. But would you trade an Ivy league degree for a season at (insert Pac12 school)? If I already had my degree or was close enough to pick up a couple more classes to get it in the near-ish future, I'd do it and still be able to get my Ivy League degree. You've already been admitted to school, is there any situation where transferring would prevent that? I'm not clear on this aspect of student athlete transfers. |
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 9, 2020 9:30:46 GMT -8
But would you trade an Ivy league degree for a season at (insert Pac12 school)? If I already had my degree or was close enough to pick up a couple more classes to get it in the near-ish future, I'd do it and still be able to get my Ivy League degree. You've already been admitted to school, is there any situation where transferring would prevent that? I'm not clear on this aspect of student athlete transfers. They don't offer schollies (in the traditional sense), they only accept a small percentage of applicants, and their graduates have pretty bright futures. Sports is not why most of those people are at these schools anyway. |
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Post by ag87 on Jul 9, 2020 9:53:57 GMT -8
If I already had my degree or was close enough to pick up a couple more classes to get it in the near-ish future, I'd do it and still be able to get my Ivy League degree. You've already been admitted to school, is there any situation where transferring would prevent that? I'm not clear on this aspect of student athlete transfers. They don't offer schollies (in the traditional sense), they only accept a small percentage of applicants, and their graduates have pretty bright futures. Sports is not why most of those people are at these schools anyway. Back when I was in high school, which is now decades ago, my class and the class after me had maybe six kids go to Ivy schools, all to play athletics. The one guy who was accepted but not a college level athlete went to the Air Force Academy. My take on the Ivy's is that they are more of a finishing school than anything else (but yes, the academics are high level). |
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Post by Benevolent Dictator on Jul 9, 2020 11:24:19 GMT -8
If I already had my degree or was close enough to pick up a couple more classes to get it in the near-ish future, I'd do it and still be able to get my Ivy League degree. You've already been admitted to school, is there any situation where transferring would prevent that? I'm not clear on this aspect of student athlete transfers. They don't offer schollies (in the traditional sense), they only accept a small percentage of applicants, and their graduates have pretty bright futures. Sports is not why most of those people are at these schools anyway. I'm pretty sure some of them started offering Basketball scholarships, Harvard at least. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 9, 2020 11:27:44 GMT -8
They don't offer schollies (in the traditional sense), they only accept a small percentage of applicants, and their graduates have pretty bright futures. Sports is not why most of those people are at these schools anyway. I'm pretty sure some of them started offering Basketball scholarships, Harvard at least. No, the whole league offers no athletic scholarships for any sport. However, they can offer financial aid based on need. |
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 9, 2020 11:40:39 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure some of them started offering Basketball scholarships, Harvard at least. No, the whole league offers no athletic scholarships for any sport. However, they can offer financial aid based on need. Pretty sure they don't even offer "merit" aid, just need based as you said. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 9, 2020 11:51:21 GMT -8
No, the whole league offers no athletic scholarships for any sport. However, they can offer financial aid based on need. Pretty sure they don't even offer "merit" aid, just need based as you said. Correct....but their definition of need is a little different than other conference's schools. |
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 9, 2020 15:38:46 GMT -8
OK but here is my question: Once you are admitted and enrolled, if you leave school and attempt to return, is there some sort of process to make it back in?
Ok so scenario is that a football player from Yale is 14 credits shy of his degree and decides to transfer to Arizona State, where he plays football for a year and takes underwater basket weaving.
Can he not then return to Yale and take his last 14 credits, receiving a degree from Yale? Or is there some sort of provision that if you withdraw as an active student you must re-apply for admission?
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Post by greshambeaver on Jul 9, 2020 16:09:06 GMT -8
Read yesterday that the Ivy League cancelled all fall sports, including football. I wonder if that will lead to a bunch of athletes in the portal. Must be at least one or two junior or seniors that would be good enough to play in the PAC12. But would you trade an Ivy league degree for a season at (insert Pac12 school)? Stanford? I don't think so! I would take a degree from Stanford over almost any Ivy school. But overall you are correct. Except they are the smart ones, so my bet is this is also a smart move. Stanford recently cancelled 11 sports, my guess is if any PAC school decides not to play Football this year, Stanford will be one of the first! |
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Post by irimi on Jul 9, 2020 17:52:44 GMT -8
You don’t go to an Ivy League school to play sports. It’s not your day job. It may suck for the athletes not to have their season, but it’s no reason to leave their school.
Besides, it may very well be similar all across the nation. Even though we don’t want it, football season could be canceled. And if things get rough, basketball, too. There’s no guarantees out there anywhere.
Why would you leave a top tier school for that?
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Post by ochobeavo on Jul 9, 2020 19:12:50 GMT -8
OK but here is my question: Once you are admitted and enrolled, if you leave school and attempt to return, is there some sort of process to make it back in? Ok so scenario is that a football player from Yale is 14 credits shy of his degree and decides to transfer to Arizona State, where he plays football for a year and takes underwater basket weaving. Can he not then return to Yale and take his last 14 credits, receiving a degree from Yale? Or is there some sort of provision that if you withdraw as an active student you must re-apply for admission? Was curious myself, so according to google here’s one data point:: at Yale you withdraw from school, later apply for reinstatement, looks like they review transcripts of courses taken outside of Yale, require letter of recommendation and an interview. Of course as we saw recently, if you have a wealthy parent, maybe you just make a donation to the sailing program along with a picture of yourself in a kayak and you’re good to go? |
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 10, 2020 9:13:49 GMT -8
But would you trade an Ivy league degree for a season at (insert Pac12 school)? Stanford? I don't think so! I would take a degree from Stanford over almost any Ivy school. But overall you are correct. Except they are the smart ones, so my bet is this is also a smart move. Stanford recently cancelled 11 sports, my guess is if any PAC school decides not to play Football this year, Stanford will be one of the first! You bring up an interesting thought though. I know in the 40's there was some precedent where some schools had football and some did not during the war. Could potentially see a situation where only a fraction of the teams opt to play this year, maybe even having some schools in a conference play where others do not in the same conference. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 10, 2020 15:13:36 GMT -8
Read yesterday that the Ivy League cancelled all fall sports, including football. I wonder if that will lead to a bunch of athletes in the portal. Must be at least one or two junior or seniors that would be good enough to play in the PAC12. Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Dartmouth, Princeton, Penn and the Wharton Business School, to mention just some of the Ivies, rendered to oblivion? I don't think so. |
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