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Post by ag87 on Jul 17, 2020 14:03:46 GMT -8
When was the last time US citizens were forbidden to travel to Canada, Europe, and Mexico. Until now NEVER More importantly, when was the last time an actual football post was made on this board? Ok, football post coming up. When I was 9 or 10 years old, I got a book possibly titled, "100 Years of College Football." This would have been in the early 70's. It was comic book form with some actual photos with the sketches. Some team, maybe around the turn of the century, had sown football shaped silhouettes, colored brown, on their jerseys. I don't think they had numbers then, but the sowing was just below where the numbers are now. The practice was quickly outlawed.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 20, 2020 14:15:28 GMT -8
When was the last time US citizens were forbidden to travel to Canada, Europe, and Mexico. Until now NEVER First, Americans can travel to Europe now, just not the Shengen Area. In places you can travel, I hear that it is generally less repressive in most places there, which is the world turned on its head. Second, no one is forbidden from all travel. It is non-essential travel that is forbidden to Canada, the EU and Mexico. Essential travel is still allowed to Canada, the EU and Mexico. Among essential travel is visiting family, to "study," etc. If you actually wanted to go somewhere, an intelligent person could make it happen, or they could hire someone like me to get them wherever they wanted to go. As for the idea that travel to Canada, Europe, and Mexico has somehow "NEVER" been more more impacted than in the 244-year history of the Untied States, that is silly. Canada was a militarized border until the 1818 Rush-Bagot Treaty. Even then, there were flashpoint periods, when travel was curtailed, like the 1859 Pig War; the 1861 Trent Affair; the 1863 Chesapeake Affair; the 1864 Confederate Raid on St. Albans, Vermont from Montreal; and the Fenian Raids of 1866-1871. (1859-1871 were not a great period for Anglo/Canadian-American Relations.) What we are used to with regards to the border with Canada really was not set into place until the 1871 Washington Treaty. And travel between the two countries was slowed, because of the changes in international travel implemented by Bush the Younger after 2003 in response to the 2001 September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The Border between Mexico and the United States has featured periods of militarization and demilitarization. One need only remember that the last invasion of Mexico was only in 1919, when the American Army made its last foray south of Juarez in a failed attempt to kill or capture Pancho Villa. The failure to do either was a big impetus toward starting to construct the Border Wall. After Wilson, the Border was slightly demilitarized. Then, Hoover started to re-militarize it in response to the Great Depression. FDR implemented the Good Neighbor policy but left most of Hoover's policies in place until the Bracero program was initiated in 1942, roughly creating an Open Border. Operations Wetback (Ike) and Intercept (Nixon) were really the only slight tightening in how the Border has been dealt with since. The first real, lasting change with the Border came with the changes implemented after 2003, because of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Obama continued to beef up Border Security after Bush the Younger, and Trump has continued to beef up the Border after Obama. As for Europe, World War II. You could not travel from here to Europe during World War II without having a great reason to do so. I think that you could say without equivocation that travel has been curtailed to an extent not seen since World War II, but to say something like this has "NEVER" happened goes a bit too far.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 20, 2020 15:03:12 GMT -8
I'm not sure which battle story I prefer, the 1859 Pig War or the 1865 Brazil/Uruguay Naval cheese ball battle.
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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 20, 2020 16:12:17 GMT -8
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 20, 2020 17:56:54 GMT -8
I don't care about travel to Europe, can't afford the return quarantine that my wife would ha who works at a hospital ive to take - she works for a big bank, and if she goes anywhere by plane, train or bus, she has to quarantine for two weeks before returning to work. Speaking of quarantine, no one can visit my niece who is an MD at a hospital east of the Cascades. They have a tent set up in the parking lot that she helps staff, and she won't let anyone visit her at home.
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