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Post by ag87 on Jul 15, 2020 15:35:05 GMT -8
The way some people think wearing masks is somehow an infringement on some right. I Wonder If these same people would care if food handlers in a restaurant never washed their hands after taking a cra# even though signs are everywhere to wash their hands. It is unbelievable how some people are unwilling to help slow a virus with such a simple effort. To equate it to sports Since this is a sport board I wouldn't want these people as teammates I wear a mask where required at all times. But I have a question for you because I don't believe that cutting up an old Cheap Trick concert T-shirt and strapping to my face does anything, that only a N95 mask stops the virus. Do you believe that these homemade masks made of a hodge-podge of fabrics really work and keep the virus out? I think this is standard accepted knowledge by all responsible parties - masks first help your neighbors because they reduce the distance contaminated breath escapes from your mouth and nose. A high quality N95 protects you also. But even that is only an aid. If everyone, the climate deniers and anti vaxxers included, wore cloth masks transmission would go way down.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 15, 2020 15:37:08 GMT -8
I wear a mask where required at all times. But I have a question for you because I don't believe that cutting up an old Cheap Trick concert T-shirt and strapping to my face does anything, that only a N95 mask stops the virus. Do you believe that these homemade masks made of a hodge-podge of fabrics really work and keep the virus out? From what the experts say yes I do. The way I look at it the stop of any moisture coming from my mouth or to my mouth is better than not doing anything and let 100% of my mouth spray go and come. Then if you believe you are safe why do you care if some other people don't wear one? Sincerely curious.
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Post by pitbeavs on Jul 15, 2020 15:37:56 GMT -8
The way some people think wearing masks is somehow an infringement on some right. I Wonder If these same people would care if food handlers in a restaurant never washed their hands after taking a cra# even though signs are everywhere to wash their hands. It is unbelievable how some people are unwilling to help slow a virus with such a simple effort. To equate it to sports Since this is a sport board I wouldn't want these people as teammates I wear a mask where required at all times. But I have a question for you because I don't believe that cutting up an old Cheap Trick concert T-shirt and strapping to my face does anything, that only a N95 mask stops the virus. Do you believe that these homemade masks made of a hodge-podge of fabrics really work and keep the virus out? Yes, they do help. They greatly reduce the droplets of saliva and snot -- from talking, coughing, and sneezing -- that fly though the air upwards of twenty feet. The R-naught drops from 8.9 [asymptomatic carrier] to about 2. That kind of reduction slows the spread and impacts on the medical system. So wear a mask, wash your hands, stay home if you feel sick. Additionally, get plenty of sleep, take your vitamins [D3, C], and Zinc. Essentially, keep your immune system strong. Unfortunately, this has been made into a horrendous political issue.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 15, 2020 15:40:20 GMT -8
They should just make the decision to offer every team sports scholarship player either a track and field or cross country scholarship until this thing is over. They could easily distance those sports - stagger the starts and have everyone race a clock rather than the persons in the next lanes, relay runners could pass hand sanitizer rather than batons, etc. With all the new athletes just think of how many records might possibly be set.
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Post by pitbeavs on Jul 15, 2020 15:41:01 GMT -8
From what the experts say yes I do. The way I look at it the stop of any moisture coming from my mouth or to my mouth is better than not doing anything and let 100% of my mouth spray go and come. Then if you believe you are safe why do you care if some other people don't wear one? Sincerely curious. Because it reduces the spread much more than a one mask user. Here
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 15, 2020 15:50:43 GMT -8
They should just make the decision to offer every team sports scholarship player either a track and field or cross country scholarship until this thing is over. They could easily distance those sports - stagger the starts and have everyone race a clock rather than the persons in the next lanes, relay runners could pass hand sanitizer rather than batons, etc. With all the new athletes just think of how many records might possibly be set. I thought they should use 6 ft batons.
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Post by pitbeavs on Jul 15, 2020 15:52:15 GMT -8
They should just make the decision to offer every team sports scholarship player either a track and field or cross country scholarship until this thing is over. They could easily distance those sports - stagger the starts and have everyone race a clock rather than the persons in the next lanes, relay runners could pass hand sanitizer rather than batons, etc. With all the new athletes just think of how many records might possibly be set. I thought they should use 6 ft batons. Batons have feet?
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 15, 2020 15:52:38 GMT -8
I thought they should use 6 ft batons. Batons have feet? Only the fast ones.
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Post by pitbeavs on Jul 15, 2020 15:54:34 GMT -8
Well, I could use a couple.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 15, 2020 15:55:36 GMT -8
The way some people think wearing masks is somehow an infringement on some right. I Wonder If these same people would care if food handlers in a restaurant never washed their hands after taking a cra# even though signs are everywhere to wash their hands. It is unbelievable how some people are unwilling to help slow a virus with such a simple effort. To equate it to sports Since this is a sport board I wouldn't want these people as teammates I wear a mask where required at all times. But I have a question for you because I don't believe that cutting up an old Cheap Trick concert T-shirt and strapping to my face does anything, that only a N95 mask stops the virus. Do you believe that these homemade masks made of a hodge-podge of fabrics really work and keep the virus out? First of all, cutting up a Cheap Trick concert T-shirt does do something... it makes you kinda kool and interesting. Second, they've proven that a simple 2 layer quilt fabric mask works pretty much as effectively as a N-95 mask. Watch the Florida Atlantic University spray test under laser light videos. A bandana does something but not enough, several other things work reasonably well. The paper painter's mask worked fairly well, but the homemade quilted fabric mask worked great. This is one of many videos out there, but it appears a simple mask can cut a 12 foot vapor spread down to a couple inches.
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Post by alwaysorange on Jul 15, 2020 16:10:56 GMT -8
From what the experts say yes I do. The way I look at it the stop of any moisture coming from my mouth or to my mouth is better than not doing anything and let 100% of my mouth spray go and come. Then if you believe you are safe why do you care if some other people don't wear one? Sincerely curious. Come on you are smarter than that. Like I said the mask isn't 100% but if you have two people wearing a mask its twice as effective than if just one of two wears one. If you wear a mask it slows droplets from you and also limits droplets to you. Hopefully you aren't curious anymore. Wear a mask!
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 15, 2020 16:20:58 GMT -8
Then if you believe you are safe why do you care if some other people don't wear one? Sincerely curious. Come on you are smarter than that. Like I said the mask isn't 100% but if you have two people wearing a mask its twice as effective than if just one of two wears one. If you wear a mask it slows droplets from you and also limits droplets to you. Hopefully you aren't curious anymore. Wear a mask! As stated, I do, where required. But if they work as you and others say, it's a logical argument that the only people actually at risk are all the non-mask wearers. I wear a crochet mask when I'm not wearing my Cheap Trick t-shirt. It's very nice. I bought it at the bootleg Saturday Market.
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Post by atownbeaver on Jul 15, 2020 16:23:45 GMT -8
The way some people think wearing masks is somehow an infringement on some right. I Wonder If these same people would care if food handlers in a restaurant never washed their hands after taking a cra# even though signs are everywhere to wash their hands. It is unbelievable how some people are unwilling to help slow a virus with such a simple effort. To equate it to sports Since this is a sport board I wouldn't want these people as teammates I wear a mask where required at all times. But I have a question for you because I don't believe that cutting up an old Cheap Trick concert T-shirt and strapping to my face does anything, that only a N95 mask stops the virus. Do you believe that these homemade masks made of a hodge-podge of fabrics really work and keep the virus out? an old cheap trick shirt is better than nothing. And for what it is worth, an N95 mask doesn't fully stop the virus either... The idea with a mask, particularly homemade one, is the the virus is most likely to be carried in large numbers in moisture and droplets. The spit when we talk, the moisture when we exhale. Even an old cheap trick t-shirt is going to capture a large percentage of that moisture you are exhaling, and thus capturing a large proportion of the virus. The virus needs a carrier. Yes. some will come out. Some will be bundled in smaller and smaller molecules that will pass though the t-shirt. The finer the mask, the more it will capture (N95, represents capturing 95% of particles 0.3 microns or larger. a micron being 1 millionth of a meter) Electron microscope scanning indicates COVID-19 virus hovers around 0.12 microns. It can freely pass an N95... But, nobody has to worry about one single viral body. it takes millions to get you. virus will cluster up into bigger bodies, and those bodies can be blocked. not by just an N95, but by even something as simple as a shirt. I have seen a couple of studies float around, I can't attest to the accuracy of them, it is being said that even a simple single layer of cotton (like a shirt) drops viral load by 70%. If two dudes are chatting each other up at home depot and both are wearing old cheap trick t-shirt over their nose and mouth and both are about 6 ft away, the risk of infection there basically falls off the map. as a note, if you are going to have a homemade mask, it is best to have a minimum of two layers. So fold your old cheap trick t-shirt in half first. The masks my wife made me (OF COURSE using OSU licensed fabric...) is 3 layers. two standard high thread count cotton with a flannel panel in the middle. multiple crossing layers of fairly high thread count fabric produces pretty darn good levels of filtration.
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Post by alwaysorange on Jul 15, 2020 16:28:06 GMT -8
Come on you are smarter than that. Like I said the mask isn't 100% but if you have two people wearing a mask its twice as effective than if just one of two wears one. If you wear a mask it slows droplets from you and also limits droplets to you. Hopefully you aren't curious anymore. Wear a mask! As stated, I do, where required. But if they work as you and others say, it's a logical argument that the only people actually at risk are all the non-mask wearers. I wear a crochet mask when I'm not wearing my Cheap Trick t-shirt. It's very nice. I bought it at the bootleg Saturday Market. You didn't read what I wrote.Did i say a mask is 100% effective? No I didn't. I did say if everyone wore a mask droplets would be greatly limited. Its called science and common sense.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 15, 2020 17:20:09 GMT -8
As stated, I do, where required. But if they work as you and others say, it's a logical argument that the only people actually at risk are all the non-mask wearers. I wear a crochet mask when I'm not wearing my Cheap Trick t-shirt. It's very nice. I bought it at the bootleg Saturday Market. You didn't read what I wrote.Did i say a mask is 100% effective? No I didn't. I did say if everyone wore a mask droplets would be greatly limited. Its called science and common sense. I did, actually. But thanks.
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