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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 5, 2020 15:59:14 GMT -8
This whole Civil War rename.
In the 1950s, the Florida-Georgia Rivalry was dubbed the "World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party." In 1988, Florida and Georgia began to phase out use of the "World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party." The phaseout was complete in 2006. It is alternatively known as the Florida-Georgia Rivalry or the Georgia-Florida Rivalry. In 2016, they tried to rename it the "River City Showdown," because the game is played in Jacksonville, the River City.........apparently. That name was universally despised, so it was renamed the Florida-Georgia/Georgia-Florida Rivalry. There are still articles referring to it as the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party.
The use of "Civil War" to describe Oregon-Oregon State dates back to sometime in the 1926-1929 time period. Oregon's Head Coach, Lieutenant Colonel John James "Cap" McEwan, a member of the College Football Hall of Fame, began to call the game "the great Civil War." The news began to pick up the name in 1929 becoming more and more common until by 1937 it was the common name for the game.
The Great Oregon Civil War has more than 90 years of history. Unlike Florida and Georgia, who spent almost 20 years phasing out the name, the Presidents of Oregon and Oregon State did it without putting a whole lot of thought into it (evident from statements made by President Ray) without any phaseout period. Instead of doing something clever like just adding the word "Oregon" to it, they decided to go a completely different direction.
Predictions. There will be a new name for the Civil War. It will be universally despised. It will be the new Mandrake (RoboDuck's name). We will still be calling it the Civil War until we die.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Aug 5, 2020 16:43:03 GMT -8
Spot on.
I don't care one bit if they rename it, change happens, Im not rooted in the past or glory years. But when I talk to friends I'm sure I'll ask, we going to the Civil War this year?
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Post by beavobill on Aug 5, 2020 17:00:41 GMT -8
Thank you for that
Go Beavs
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 5, 2020 19:19:00 GMT -8
This whole Civil War rename. In the 1950s, the Florida-Georgia Rivalry was dubbed the "World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party." In 1988, Florida and Georgia began to phase out use of the "World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party." The phaseout was complete in 2006. It is alternatively known as the Florida-Georgia Rivalry or the Georgia-Florida Rivalry. In 2016, they tried to rename it the "River City Showdown," because the game is played in Jacksonville, the River City.........apparently. That name was universally despised, so it was renamed the Florida-Georgia/Georgia-Florida Rivalry. There are still articles referring to it as the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party. The use of "Civil War" to describe Oregon-Oregon State dates back to sometime in the 1926-1929 time period. Oregon's Head Coach, Lieutenant Colonel John James "Cap" McEwan, a member of the College Football Hall of Fame, began to call the game "the great Civil War." The news began to pick up the name in 1929 becoming more and more common until by 1937 it was the common name for the game. The Great Oregon Civil War has more than 90 years of history. Unlike Florida and Georgia, who spent almost 20 years phasing out the name, the Presidents of Oregon and Oregon State did it without putting a whole lot of thought into it (evident from statements made by President Ray) without any phaseout period. Instead of doing something clever like just adding the word "Oregon" to it, they decided to go a completely different direction. Predictions. There will be a new name for the Civil War. It will be universally despised. It will be the new Mandrake (RoboDuck's name). We will still be calling it the Civil War until we die. I didn’t even know the Florida Georgia game was renamed! Point made and taken!
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Aug 5, 2020 23:43:34 GMT -8
I’ve had an idea to just continue using the War, adding the year as is common with historic War names. E.g - we lost the War of 1999 but won the War of 2000.
But really, I have known this game thru my life by 2 names - the Civil War and the Toilet Bowl. Just let me know when it is decided which one to use and which one to discontinue.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Aug 6, 2020 9:59:08 GMT -8
I’ve had an idea to just continue using the War, adding the year as is common with historic War names. E.g - we lost the War of 1999 but won the War of 2000. But really, I have known this game thru my life by 2 names - the Civil War and the Toilet Bowl. Just let me know when it is decided which one to use and which one to discontinue. Perhaps every time we lose it becomes the Toilet Bowl. Everytime we win it is the Glorious Civil War?
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Post by EOBeav on Aug 6, 2020 11:23:45 GMT -8
Quick question: When you think about the game played every year on Jan 1 in Pasadena, do you call it "The Rose Bowl", or do you call it "The Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual"? That's what I thought.
My point is this: They're going to call it something else on paper. We're going to continue calling it The Civil War.
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Post by irimi on Aug 7, 2020 18:40:35 GMT -8
In the end, sure, we’ll keep calling it the Civil War. We’re the older generation. The future of the game will use the new name, and little by little, the new name will be as important to Beaver fans as Civil War is to us. No big deal. Call it what you want.
Shakespeare had a line about a rose going by another name. I think that’s appropriate for us. The game won’t change. The rivalry will still be great.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Aug 10, 2020 9:32:47 GMT -8
In the end, sure, we’ll keep calling it the Civil War. We’re the older generation. The future of the game will use the new name, and little by little, the new name will be as important to Beaver fans as Civil War is to us. No big deal. Call it what you want. Shakespeare had a line about a rose going by another name. I think that’s appropriate for us. The game won’t change. The rivalry will still be great. Well, as a 2018 grad, at least one person from the "younger generation" will still be calling it the Civil War. I know my group of friends/family will still be calling it that as well regardless of what the name is changed to. Can't speak for the current group of students or upcoming students who seem to want to change absolutely everything until it is as PC as possible, but I don't know too many people who were super excited to call it by a different name. Let's just hope we get to play the rivalry at all this year, in any sport.
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