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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 25, 2020 7:18:39 GMT -8
From Seattle Times: “There’s already negative recruiting going on,” 247Sports national recruiting editor Brandon Huffman said. “It’s like, ‘Hey, we care about your kid’s wellbeing, but we also still care about football more than the Pac-12 does or the Big Ten does. We’re taking all these precautionary measures, but we’re also still supporting these kids’ efforts to play football.’ “So I think now they’re going to have to deal with the already permeating feeling that football is just not as serious out west. I think the good schools in the Pac-12 are able to offset that. “… Will the Pac-12 even have a spring season? Can you see their states saying, ‘No, we’re not playing in the spring either’? If they end up losing a year, I’m not saying the Pac-12 is going to become a Group of Five conference. But do they pretty much solidify their standing as the least relevant Power Five conference if they don’t play football in the spring? Probably.” “One of the initial responses I heard from the (Pac-12) conference’s fans was, ‘Oh, we’re going to have an easier time recruiting.’ Well, no you’re not,” Huffman said. “The NCAA keeps pushing back the dead period. Coaches have all this free time but no ability to get on the road and evaluate and recruit. I looked at it like with my kids doing activities and playing sports in the spring and summer. I’ve never been more available to go to their events, but if there are no events to go to, then it really doesn’t make a difference. “That’s kind of how coaches are. If they’re not allowed to get on the road, yeah, they’re not having to game plan for State U this weekend. So they can watch more (highlight tapes) and do more zoom calls and all that. But if they’re not getting the face time in person with these guys it really is all for naught.” But if they play, the Pac-12’s omnipresent perception problem will be amplified even more. www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/theres-already-negative-recruiting-going-on-how-fall-sec-acc-and-big-12-football-seasons-would-impact-pac-12-recruiting/
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Post by TheGlove on Aug 25, 2020 7:23:45 GMT -8
And?
Water is wet. No new info in any of that.
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Post by lebaneaver on Aug 25, 2020 9:35:22 GMT -8
Yo...55.......You are FREE to move about the country. IF football is that damn important to you....move to Texas, or Oklahoma, or Mississippi, or Alabama, or South Carolina, or Florida. You'll, evidently be ahelluvalot happier, and NOT just about football. That's good advice.
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Post by ochobeavo on Aug 25, 2020 9:44:13 GMT -8
And? Water is wet. No new info in any of that. side note: I've heard that Texas HS football is a bigger deal than Oregon HS football. Can't confirm.
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 25, 2020 9:56:14 GMT -8
I noticed you weren't all over news story about University of Alabama having over 500 positive COVID tests in one day, or UNC having over a 31% positive rate in their testing all after barely a week of being open.
Single universities finding more cases than the single worse day for all of Oregon... with a fraction of the total tests.
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Post by obf on Aug 25, 2020 9:57:29 GMT -8
FWIW, beaver55to7, I may lean slightly the other way than you on this, but I DO NOT want you to stop posting. I know it is no longer the way we do civil discourse in society anymore, but I welcome dissenting opinions. Only way to have a wholestic nuanced opinion is to thoughtfully consider, and reconsider, and reconsider, on and on your position, especially in a situation like this where new data and information comes in daily.
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Post by obf on Aug 25, 2020 10:04:25 GMT -8
I noticed you weren't all over news story about University of Alabama having over 500 positive COVID tests in one day, or UNC having over a 31% positive rate in their testing all after barely a week of being open. Single universities finding more cases than the single worse day for all of Oregon... with a fraction of the total tests. I am curious to see if OSU sees a sugre, or wave, or whatever we are calling it these days, as students start showing up en masse. Not to attend class, but to hang out and party together and then learn over zoom Every evening I see sizable groups of young people, un masked (BTW, it lowers the efficacy of your mask if it is dangling from one ear or is only around your neck ) and not distanced of course drinking, hanging out and in general having a good time. I am, of course NOT anti good time However it takes just one asymptomatic (or lightly symptomatic) person in that group to spread the virus quickly and then from group to group.
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Post by mbabeav on Aug 25, 2020 10:08:28 GMT -8
And? Water is wet. No new info in any of that. side note: I've heard that Texas HS football is a bigger deal than Oregon HS football. Can't confirm. I also can't verify, but I think the 10,000 seat better than most Division 1-A stadiums that I saw in a 4000 resident town might indicate that its value there is slightly higher.
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Post by obf on Aug 25, 2020 10:20:07 GMT -8
side note: I've heard that Texas HS football is a bigger deal than Oregon HS football. Can't confirm. I also can't verify, but I think the 10,000 seat better than most Division 1-A stadiums that I saw in a 4000 resident town might indicate that its value there is slightly higher. I went to a smallish college in Texas (8-10,000 students).... We played our home football games at the local HIGH SCHOOL'S Stadium, smh
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 25, 2020 10:20:33 GMT -8
I noticed you weren't all over news story about University of Alabama having over 500 positive COVID tests in one day, or UNC having over a 31% positive rate in their testing all after barely a week of being open. Single universities finding more cases than the single worse day for all of Oregon... with a fraction of the total tests. I am curious to see if OSU sees a sugre, or wave, or whatever we are calling it these days, as students start showing up en masse. Not to attend class, but to hang out and party together and then learn over zoom Every evening I see sizable groups of young people, un masked (BTW, it lowers the efficacy of your mask if it is dangling from one ear or is only around your neck ) and not distanced of course drinking, hanging out and in general having a good time. I am, of course NOT anti good time However it takes just one asymptomatic (or lightly symptomatic) person in that group to spread the virus quickly and then from group to group. Hope not, I move my kid in Sept 18th. They will be testing all students as they move in... and the vast majority of classes are on line so kids not living on campus won't be frequenting campus as much. Much different strategy than just opening straight on up, having in person classes and acting like nothing is different!
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 25, 2020 11:07:16 GMT -8
And? Water is wet. No new info in any of that. And may I add - Thank God.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 25, 2020 11:26:59 GMT -8
Yo...55.......You are FREE to move about the country. IF football is that damn important to you....move to Texas, or Oklahoma, or Mississippi, or Alabama, or South Carolina, or Florida. You'll, evidently be ahelluvalot happier, and NOT just about football. That's good advice. Dang, harsh, I've got 2 kids at OSU now, bye children. sob sob sob and why so limiting on my choices? There are teams in the following states that are planning on playing FBS football this year: Utah New York Indiana Massachusetts Pennsylvania Missouri Iowa Kansas and West Virginia And how do you know where I live...World Wide Web and all.
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Post by beaverstever on Aug 25, 2020 11:45:39 GMT -8
I sure bet the Pac-12 coaches are not excited whatsoever about this development.
I also don't think piling on the south for their pandemic strategy is even handled evenly here. Are people dying in the south because hospitals are overflowing? If not, then business as usual was the overall strategy from the get-go; the shutdowns were not intended to stop spread altogether, it was to 'flatten the curve' - meaning reduce infection rates so that local hospitals are not overwhelmed. If the goalposts have been moved to a 100% containment strategy, I missed the memo, as did the country, because at no point has any federal or state initiative had any chance of accomplishing that, nor has it been the stated goal by those governments.
In reality, the there is a strong possibility that things go just fine with the SEC's football season, some campuses close periodically to again flatten the curve for the local health care systems case load, and they reach herd immunity regionally, well ahead of the other regions. Pointing their approach as being due to "valuing football more highly than others" while generally true, is a disingenuous argument for their general approach to the pandemic, IMO.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 25, 2020 12:02:13 GMT -8
I sure bet the Pac-12 coaches are not excited whatsoever about this development. I also don't think piling on the south for their pandemic strategy is even handled evenly here. Are people dying in the south because hospitals are overflowing? If not, then business as usual was the overall strategy from the get-go; the shutdowns were not intended to stop spread altogether, it was to 'flatten the curve' - meaning reduce infection rates so that local hospitals are not overwhelmed. If the goalposts have been moved to a 100% containment strategy, I missed the memo, as did the country, because at no point has any federal or state initiative had any chance of accomplishing that, nor has it been the stated goal by those governments. In reality, the there is a strong possibility that things go just fine with the SEC's football season, some campuses close periodically to again flatten the curve for the local health care systems case load, and they reach herd immunity regionally, well ahead of the other regions. Pointing their approach as being due to "valuing football more highly than others" while generally true, is a disingenuous argument for their general approach to the pandemic, IMO. Excellent post. Bravissimo!
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 25, 2020 12:04:50 GMT -8
And? Water is wet. No new info in any of that. I disagree Mr. Snarkypants! I haven’t read any real articles talking about the actual effect on recruiting, competition in the future, Etc. Only theories and predictions.
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