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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 18, 2020 6:14:15 GMT -8
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Post by jrbeavo on Sept 18, 2020 6:21:41 GMT -8
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 18, 2020 6:29:23 GMT -8
Well we know the covid pandemic is not "a hoax". Sane people do anyhow. The death toll has now surpassed 200,000.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Sept 18, 2020 7:25:20 GMT -8
It's not a hoax, but the danger to otherwise healthy people was greatly overstated. The scandal in Nashville is ROUGH.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 18, 2020 7:54:20 GMT -8
It's not a hoax, but the danger to otherwise healthy people was greatly overstated. The scandal in Nashville is ROUGH. Werebeaver weren’t reading... “Somewhere between“
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 18, 2020 8:26:16 GMT -8
It's not a hoax, but the danger to otherwise healthy people was greatly overstated. The scandal in Nashville is ROUGH. Werebeaver weren’t reading... “Somewhere between“ “Hoax“ shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as this pandemic.
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Post by jrbeavo on Sept 18, 2020 8:41:14 GMT -8
Werebeaver weren’t reading... “Somewhere between“ “Hoax“ shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as this pandemic. Again, you're not paying attention, that is on you.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 18, 2020 8:51:40 GMT -8
It's not a hoax, but the danger to otherwise healthy people was greatly overstated. The scandal in Nashville is ROUGH. No, the danger to otherwise healthy people has always been accurate, at least if you read reliable information. It is small. quite small. Not zero, but small. What people have persistently continued to forget is that: A. America is NOT full of "otherwise healthy people". We are one of the most obese first world nations on the planet and overall have some of the poorest health. about 13% of our population has diabetes alone! B. The point is wasn't to protect "otherwise healthy people" it is to protect the otherwise unhealthy people. Particularly those with high blood pressure and diabetes, which is rampant in this country. You cannot make informed decisions about exposure and going out when you can be a carrier without symptoms, Or, be a spreader before symptoms set in. There just is not a practical way to do that for the greater population. Wearing a mask is a great way to reduce the risk and prevent wide community spread that eventually gets to the unhealthy people. See: Maine wedding scandal 170 odd cases and 7 deaths. and none of the deaths were people in any way associated with the wedding. guests carried it to their work sites and in the case of deaths, into a nursing home... Unfortunately we have a bunch of lizard brained mouth breathers that want to make a deal out of masks, so America is just stagnating on progress... There is practical ways to do that for smaller groups though. The Pac-12 has a practical way now. I should point out that other conferences that said "f%#* it" really didn't have super practical ways. they just accepted risk. For right or for wrong. Their testing programs are pretty flawed, and not rapid enough to stop spread. See LSU and Tennessee... Of course the issue wasn't that those kids would die or be hospitalized. It is that a team could lose half of its starters for a week. cancelling a game. Then the other half next week! cancelling a game. and then a lingering case or two sends it over to the next teams. and your entire season is stops and starts and fits of cancellations and uncertain line ups. it is moving games or outright cancelling them all season. Honestly, that can be as unfair to the kids working hard off season as just waiting! I mean, lets all debate what happens if/when we get a clash of two top 5 teams except in that week half the starters of one of the teams is out. Is that fair to the team? sure injuries happen, but I haven't really seen a case ever than 5,6,7 hell 11 starters all had to miss a game due to injury! That is more likely COVID. It disrupts the development of the team, the unity, the timing. all of it. It is just hard to play under the circumstances, even if you take mortality and long term consequences completely off the table. When you can test rapidly enough and reliability enough to contain spread, you can play with far more safety and certainty See: NFL. no new cases after week 1. Color me a little bit surprised! It is ultimately better this way, even if how we got here wasn't as straight forward or genuine as it should be. I honestly think the Pac-12 can play a full schedule now uninterrupted.... It has already not been the case in other conferences.
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Post by jdogge on Sept 18, 2020 10:20:33 GMT -8
Infuriating but no surprise. DC botched the handing of COVID especially since Mr. Trump started having statistics sent directly to the WH, not the CDC. The data to the university presidents could have been intentional [very unlikely], due to incompetence [greater possibility], or due to chaos [very likely]. The data has been a moving target: no one has managed a pandemic like this. So I'll give them a pass.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Sept 18, 2020 10:57:58 GMT -8
Infuriating but no surprise. DC botched the handing of COVID especially since Mr. Trump started having statistics sent directly to the WH, not the CDC. The data to the university presidents could have been intentional [very unlikely], due to incompetence [greater possibility], or due to chaos [very likely]. The data has been a moving target: no one has managed a pandemic like this. So I'll give them a pass. Wondering how many "passes" you are handing out to managers of this pandemic?.......oh crap, I stepped in a rabbit hole.....
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Post by lebaneaver on Sept 18, 2020 11:51:52 GMT -8
ANYONE who thinks this pandemic is a "plandemic" in any way, OR anyone who thinks it has been OVERBLOWN, even though it has caused 200,000 deaths, here in the U.S. alone, and has negatively impacted the entire world's economy AND caused the PAC 12 to cancel football, SIMPLY to harm chump's reelection.....is nuts. It's loony tunes talk. A moron's conspiracy theory. A cult's warped view. The chump negatively impacted his reelection on his own. Incompetence, corruption, and a callous disregard for human life, OTHER than his own. Jesus. Some of you guys sound like you ACTUALLY believe this s%#t!! Ideology does NOT trump intelligence.....or, at least it DIDN'T until the trumpsters took over the g.o.p.
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Post by beavaristotle on Sept 18, 2020 12:06:09 GMT -8
ANYONE who thinks this pandemic is a "plandemic" in any way, OR anyone who thinks it has been OVERBLOWN, even though it has caused 200,000 deaths, here in the U.S. alone, and has negatively impacted the entire world's economy AND caused the PAC 12 to cancel football, SIMPLY to harm chump's reelection.....is nuts. It's loony tunes talk. A moron's conspiracy theory. A cult's warped view. The chump negatively impacted his reelection on his own. Incompetence, corruption, and a callous disregard for human life, OTHER than his own. Jesus. Some of you guys sound like you ACTUALLY believe this s%#t!! Ideology does NOT trump intelligence.....or, at least it DIDN'T until the trumpsters took over the g.o.p. Well Dr. Glove, we're waiting !
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Post by beaver55to7 on Sept 18, 2020 12:53:24 GMT -8
ANYONE who thinks this pandemic is a "plandemic" in any way, OR anyone who thinks it has been OVERBLOWN, even though it has caused 200,000 deaths, here in the U.S. alone, and has negatively impacted the entire world's economy AND caused the PAC 12 to cancel football, SIMPLY to harm chump's reelection.....is nuts. It's loony tunes talk. A moron's conspiracy theory. A cult's warped view. The chump negatively impacted his reelection on his own. Incompetence, corruption, and a callous disregard for human life, OTHER than his own. Jesus. Some of you guys sound like you ACTUALLY believe this s%#t!! Ideology does NOT trump intelligence.....or, at least it DIDN'T until the trumpsters took over the g.o.p. Leb, you are a good guy, why don't you do the admins a favor and delete your political post? Someone always has to go completely off the rails, let it be somebody else. It is going to get deleted anyway.
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Post by jrbeavo on Sept 18, 2020 13:15:03 GMT -8
Infuriating but no surprise. DC botched the handing of COVID especially since Mr. Trump started having statistics sent directly to the WH, not the CDC. The data to the university presidents could have been intentional [very unlikely], due to incompetence [greater possibility], or due to chaos [very likely]. The data has been a moving target: no one has managed a pandemic like this. So I'll give them a pass. If you read the article you would know that the numbers were not reported to the task force from any source, they were made up. There is no record of official numbers being what they were in the presentation to the league. No incompetence, just manufactured.
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Post by jdogge on Sept 18, 2020 13:29:24 GMT -8
ANYONE who thinks this pandemic is a "plandemic" in any way, OR anyone who thinks it has been OVERBLOWN, even though it has caused 200,000 deaths, here in the U.S. alone, and has negatively impacted the entire world's economy AND caused the PAC 12 to cancel football, SIMPLY to harm chump's reelection.....is nuts. It's loony tunes talk. A moron's conspiracy theory. A cult's warped view. The chump negatively impacted his reelection on his own. Incompetence, corruption, and a callous disregard for human life, OTHER than his own. Jesus. Some of you guys sound like you ACTUALLY believe this s%#t!! Ideology does NOT trump intelligence.....or, at least it DIDN'T until the trumpsters took over the g.o.p. How do you really feel?
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