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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 2, 2015 13:06:20 GMT -8
The problem with the Nebraska game I saw was their QB and receivers and deep defenders. Their offense was the primary problem I think. Banker uses sort of an antiquated defense as I believe we all know, but IMO the D while it wasn't stout was not the primary problem. To be fair to Riley, he has a team full of players recruited to do something completely different than what they are doing now. Armstrong is not a pocket passer. They do not have a WR that would start at OSU even, let alone most other Pac schools, and the one that would of just broke his leg. They have the single worse secondary in the nation, and while I know we are all down on Banker that isn't entirely his fault. They are razor thin at LB and have never played a game this season with all 3 projected starters. the only place they have been okay is DL. I think with any transition you have to give it at least a year. but I will say losing to teams like Illinois and Purdue is unacceptable, even in a transition year. Northwestern showed that Banker still can't defend against a mobile QB... ahem... I think Banker, more than Riley has let the game pass him by. I still think Riley has it in him. to be sure, he somehow has coaxed some pretty reasonable numbers out of a read option QB that was never really recruited to throw much...
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 2, 2015 13:15:35 GMT -8
The problem with the Nebraska game I saw was their QB and receivers and deep defenders. Their offense was the primary problem I think. Banker uses sort of an antiquated defense as I believe we all know, but IMO the D while it wasn't stout was not the primary problem. To be fair to Riley, he has a team full of players recruited to do something completely different than what they are doing now. Armstrong is not a pocket passer. They do not have a WR that would start at OSU even, let alone most other Pac schools, and the one that would of just broke his leg. They have the single worse secondary in the nation, and while I know we are all down on Banker that isn't entirely his fault. They are razor thin at LB and have never played a game this season with all 3 projected starters. the only place they have been okay is DL. I think with any transition you have to give it at least a year. but I will say losing to teams like Illinois and Purdue is unacceptable, even in a transition year. Northwestern showed that Banker still can't defend against a mobile QB... ahem... I think Banker, more than Riley has let the game pass him by. I still think Riley has it in him. to be sure, he somehow has coaxed some pretty reasonable numbers out of a read option QB that was never really recruited to throw much... However, Armstrong didn't play Saturday. Not to mention, if it is true about the receivers, why pass twice as much as you run, especially since that is what most of those players have been used to doing?
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Post by ronatemg on Nov 2, 2015 13:15:42 GMT -8
The problem with the Nebraska game I saw was their QB and receivers and deep defenders. Their offense was the primary problem I think. Banker uses sort of an antiquated defense as I believe we all know, but IMO the D while it wasn't stout was not the primary problem. Not just Northwestern that ran wild, but did you see the Purdue QB take off and had a HUGE running lane. Wouldn't call that guy exactly a fast QB either. How many running QBs did we see take off all the time against OSU as they lost contain or didn't have a spy. I'm not talking about the traditional spread type QBs that can run, but the semi-mobile pocket passers still had career rushing days against OSUs defense....
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 2, 2015 14:11:05 GMT -8
To be fair to Riley, he has a team full of players recruited to do something completely different than what they are doing now. Armstrong is not a pocket passer. They do not have a WR that would start at OSU even, let alone most other Pac schools, and the one that would of just broke his leg. They have the single worse secondary in the nation, and while I know we are all down on Banker that isn't entirely his fault. They are razor thin at LB and have never played a game this season with all 3 projected starters. the only place they have been okay is DL. I think with any transition you have to give it at least a year. but I will say losing to teams like Illinois and Purdue is unacceptable, even in a transition year. Northwestern showed that Banker still can't defend against a mobile QB... ahem... I think Banker, more than Riley has let the game pass him by. I still think Riley has it in him. to be sure, he somehow has coaxed some pretty reasonable numbers out of a read option QB that was never really recruited to throw much... However, Armstrong didn't play Saturday. Not to mention, if it is true about the receivers, why pass twice as much as you run, especially since that is what most of those players have been used to doing? Well, on the same tokien, Why is Andersen running a spread read-option offense on a team recruited to be pro set players and why is Sitake running a 3-4 defense with a team recruited to be 4-3 defenders? That question swings both ways.
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 2, 2015 14:37:00 GMT -8
However, Armstrong didn't play Saturday. Not to mention, if it is true about the receivers, why pass twice as much as you run, especially since that is what most of those players have been used to doing? Well, on the same tokien, Why is Andersen running a spread read-option offense on a team recruited to be pro set players and why is Sitake running a 3-4 defense with a team recruited to be 4-3 defenders? That question swings both ways. He actually isn't running the read-option as of the last few games. On Defense, it's because Sitake wants to. And what Sitake wants, Sitake gets! Not to mention, our defense is playing hard and trending up. Quite the opposite of Nebraska's in my opinion.
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 2, 2015 14:46:45 GMT -8
Well, on the same tokien, Why is Andersen running a spread read-option offense on a team recruited to be pro set players and why is Sitake running a 3-4 defense with a team recruited to be 4-3 defenders? That question swings both ways. He actually isn't running the read-option as of the last few games. On Defense, it's because Sitake wants to. And what Sitake wants, Sitake gets! Not to mention, our defense is playing hard and trending up. Quite the opposite of Nebraska's in my opinion. This is true, he has backed away from it as it was not effective. Point is, Andersen pulled of the bandaid and one could argue whether or not this was the best idea on the year... Largely, Riley is doing the same thing. No surprise both teams are struggling, and in part for the same reason.
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