|
Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 9, 2024 9:17:54 GMT -8
Screw them. Their president was a double-dealing liar whose 11th-hour decision to bail broke up the league once and for all. Their president authorized a lawsuit against her sister school and us in an attempt to shut down the conference and bleed the corpse for as much money as they possibly could on their way out the door. I'm glad they got their asses kicked. I wish they could have lost by 50. Yeah, UW leadership are pompous a-holes, but the kids on the field last night had nothing to do with the Pac 12 situation. Getting their asses kicked or losing by fifty only hurts the players, not the ones you want to suffer. So after all the backstabbing BS they pulled, I should want them to win, so their poor players don't get their feelings hurt? Give me a break. This ain't intramurals, brother. Losing impacts their entire school, the entire athletic department and their entitled fan base. Karma is a bitch.
|
|
|
Post by irimi on Jan 9, 2024 9:37:25 GMT -8
Then just turn it around. “You shouldn’t root for the Beavs because their AD couldn’t get their team to another conference. Screw them. They don’t belong anyway. And the kids on the field should’ve known. I mean OSU has always been inept.” Touche’ - but the only real knock you can make against OSU is we seldom make it to the big dance - the rest of it was foisted upon OSU - we had no control over the other things you mention - UW did - unless you argue that the former pres now at USC and others went rogue, and did not have university support for their decisions I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that the players aren't the decision makers, so why blame them for what the university has or hasn't done? I think the players on the team by and large chose to play for UW simply because UW is a good school and the football team has had some recent success. That's all. They're just college kids after all.
|
|
|
Post by irimi on Jan 9, 2024 9:42:09 GMT -8
Yeah, UW leadership are pompous a-holes, but the kids on the field last night had nothing to do with the Pac 12 situation. Getting their asses kicked or losing by fifty only hurts the players, not the ones you want to suffer. So after all the backstabbing BS they pulled, I should want them to win, so their poor players don't get their feelings hurt? Give me a break. This ain't intramurals, brother. Losing impacts their entire school, the entire athletic department and their entitled fan base. Karma is a bitch. I didn't say that you should want them to win. But wanting them to lose by 50 is sorta like punishing your kid in order to get even with your ex. Immature. Sure, losing impacts their school. Show me. The years Oregon lost in the National Championship game really hurt them a lot, right?
|
|
|
Post by NativeBeav on Jan 9, 2024 10:05:22 GMT -8
Touche’ - but the only real knock you can make against OSU is we seldom make it to the big dance - the rest of it was foisted upon OSU - we had no control over the other things you mention - UW did - unless you argue that the former pres now at USC and others went rogue, and did not have university support for their decisions I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that the players aren't the decision makers, so why blame them for what the university has or hasn't done? I think the players on the team by and large chose to play for UW simply because UW is a good school and the football team has had some recent success. That's all. They're just college kids after all. Agreed - but just like the driver of a getaway car, even if he has no idea a murder is going on, is still liable for murder in many states. In this case - maybe vet the school you are considering committing to, and look beyond the bling and W/L record. Consider the value of the degree - does the school offer a degree program in what you want to study? What is their rank nationally? How do the other schools in their conference view that school? (think hole). My only point is, guilt by association is a real thing. And, actions have consequences. I know they are just kids (especially compared to me!), but they should widen their criteria when selecting a school.
*edit - to be fair, much of this conference realignment BS happened after the current players were recruited and committed, and even after all of the BS, even if they disagree with the university, they would be unlikely to transfer out because of it*
|
|
|
Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 9, 2024 11:26:40 GMT -8
So after all the backstabbing BS they pulled, I should want them to win, so their poor players don't get their feelings hurt? Give me a break. This ain't intramurals, brother. Losing impacts their entire school, the entire athletic department and their entitled fan base. Karma is a bitch. I didn't say that you should want them to win. But wanting them to lose by 50 is sorta like punishing your kid in order to get even with your ex. Immature. Sure, losing impacts their school. Show me. The years Oregon lost in the National Championship game really hurt them a lot, right? They still haven't won one, no matter how much money Uncle Phil throws at the program, and it bothers him and them every single day of their lives. So yes, it hurts them. A lot. Somebody had to lose last night. I'm happy it was Washington, and by a lot.
|
|
|
Post by NativeBeav on Jan 9, 2024 11:31:29 GMT -8
I didn't say that you should want them to win. But wanting them to lose by 50 is sorta like punishing your kid in order to get even with your ex. Immature. Sure, losing impacts their school. Show me. The years Oregon lost in the National Championship game really hurt them a lot, right? They still haven't won one, no matter how much money Uncle Phil throws at the program, and it bothers him and them every single day of their lives. So yes, it hurts them. A lot. And I smile, knowing this. I warms the cockles of my heart!
|
|
|
Post by rgeorge on Jan 9, 2024 12:02:46 GMT -8
Even more then that. Ken Deboer was in the middle of their bailing, he was telling the ad and president that Huskie football could not survive being streaming only. F that guy too. Wow! I didn’t know this. I guess maybe they were feeling it in recruiting? Either does he!! Just more made up BS... since Ken isn't the UW HC. Plus I'd love to see a quote where the UW admin states it took advice from their HC about over Athletic Department budgets and his expertise on the ability to "survive streaming". As with all social media/new sites... don't read and be uninformed... read and be misinformed!
|
|
|
Post by bigorangebeaver on Jan 9, 2024 12:36:26 GMT -8
I agree with Henry on this one. Just like Nix at hole - choose wisely where you go to school, and decide to play. Some schools have a long history of being tools, but there will only be one Paris Hilton of college football! 😎 Then just turn it around. “You shouldn’t root for the Beavs because their AD couldn’t get their team to another conference. Screw them. They don’t belong anyway. And the kids on the field should’ve known. I mean OSU has always been inept.” Don’t worry—Kids who want to come to Oregon State are hearing that (or a variation of that) from other schools competing for their commitments.
|
|
|
Post by beaver55to7 on Jan 9, 2024 13:00:30 GMT -8
Wow! I didn’t know this. I guess maybe they were feeling it in recruiting? Either does he!! Just more made up BS... since Ken isn't the UW HC. Plus I'd love to see a quote where the UW admin states it took advice from their HC about over Athletic Department budgets and his expertise on the ability to "survive streaming". As with all social media/new sites... don't read and be uninformed... read and be misinformed! From Saturday out West article just before uo and uw bolted, but after Colorado had made there move: “I’m probably a little more old school, too. I like to turn on the TV and know what channel the game is going to be on...But being all in on that… there’s certainly reason for concern because I don’t think the entire country and those that want to watch — no matter what conference, no matter what sport — are probably ready to be all in on streaming." saturdayoutwest.com/washington-huskies/kalen-deboer-comments-on-colorado-washingtons-future-and-a-potential-media-deal-with-apple/and “Ten minutes before the meeting was to begin, however, Washington informed the Pac-12 that it was leaving for the Big Ten. The possibility of playing no games on the major linear networks was too tough of a sell for Washington football coach Kalen DeBoer, two sources told The Times.”
|
|
|
Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 9, 2024 13:53:58 GMT -8
Watched the end of the game while doing a playoff FF draft.....after the game they showed the stats for most rushing yards given up in a championship game. U dub took the lead with 306 (I think?)from hole who gave up 296 (I think?).....made sure the huge hole fan in our league got to appreciate that stat. His response....."I guess the pac 12 hasn't been good against the run.". My response....."welcome to the big 10."
|
|
|
Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 9, 2024 13:57:20 GMT -8
I, for one, was glad to see u dub lose.....my reason for wanting this outcome? Their fans, in my experience, are assholes.
|
|
|
Post by rgeorge on Jan 9, 2024 15:30:16 GMT -8
Either does he!! Just more made up BS... since Ken isn't the UW HC. Plus I'd love to see a quote where the UW admin states it took advice from their HC about over Athletic Department budgets and his expertise on the ability to "survive streaming". As with all social media/new sites... don't read and be uninformed... read and be misinformed! From Saturday out West article just before uo and uw bolted, but after Colorado had made there move: “I’m probably a little more old school, too. I like to turn on the TV and know what channel the game is going to be on...But being all in on that… there’s certainly reason for concern because I don’t think the entire country and those that want to watch — no matter what conference, no matter what sport — are probably ready to be all in on streaming." saturdayoutwest.com/washington-huskies/kalen-deboer-comments-on-colorado-washingtons-future-and-a-potential-media-deal-with-apple/and “Ten minutes before the meeting was to begin, however, Washington informed the Pac-12 that it was leaving for the Big Ten. The possibility of playing no games on the major linear networks was too tough of a sell for Washington football coach Kalen DeBoer, two sources told The Times.” And, that states KD had any say in the decision? Nope... Is there a "timeline" for KD's comment? Nope... meaning it was mostly likely after as The Times would not be getting comments from a HC on a decision that was not yet made. If the UW admin ad went the other way would he have publicly spoken out against it? Nope Hence, you initial post was made up, fabricated, and your opinion... not fact. But, then if you search the web long enough I can prove the earth is flat!
|
|
|
Post by orangeattack on Jan 9, 2024 15:31:42 GMT -8
I, for one, was glad to see u dub lose.....my reason for wanting this outcome? Their fans, in my experience, are assholes. I felt pretty conflicted. On one hand, it was hard to root for the program that paired up with Oregon to shank their in-state rivals. Scumbaggery by the president of UW and done with the full buy-in of the football program. But on the other hand, it feels like there is a collective shrug by college football. It is as if the country feels like it's just proof that the Pac12 has never been anything but a paper tiger, and by extension it gets easier to dismiss the two remaining members who historically occupied the bottom-half to bottom-of-the-barrel for the conference. Maybe I'm overly sensitive but that's how I see it.
|
|
|
Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 9, 2024 18:38:28 GMT -8
From Saturday out West article just before uo and uw bolted, but after Colorado had made there move: “I’m probably a little more old school, too. I like to turn on the TV and know what channel the game is going to be on...But being all in on that… there’s certainly reason for concern because I don’t think the entire country and those that want to watch — no matter what conference, no matter what sport — are probably ready to be all in on streaming." saturdayoutwest.com/washington-huskies/kalen-deboer-comments-on-colorado-washingtons-future-and-a-potential-media-deal-with-apple/and “Ten minutes before the meeting was to begin, however, Washington informed the Pac-12 that it was leaving for the Big Ten. The possibility of playing no games on the major linear networks was too tough of a sell for Washington football coach Kalen DeBoer, two sources told The Times.” And, that states KD had any say in the decision? Nope... Is there a "timeline" for KD's comment? Nope... meaning it was mostly likely after as The Times would not be getting comments from a HC on a decision that was not yet made. If the UW admin ad went the other way would he have publicly spoken out against it? Nope Hence, you initial post was made up, fabricated, and your opinion... not fact. But, then if you search the web long enough I can prove the earth is flat! That article was actually from August 2nd (there's a timestamp on the google results, not on the articleitself). After Colorado left on the 27th and before August 4th, when uw and uo skipped the GOR signing. A lot happened in a short time.
|
|
|
Post by rgeorge on Jan 9, 2024 20:57:54 GMT -8
And, that states KD had any say in the decision? Nope... Is there a "timeline" for KD's comment? Nope... meaning it was mostly likely after as The Times would not be getting comments from a HC on a decision that was not yet made. If the UW admin ad went the other way would he have publicly spoken out against it? Nope Hence, you initial post was made up, fabricated, and your opinion... not fact. But, then if you search the web long enough I can prove the earth is flat! That article was actually from August 2nd (there's a timestamp on the google results, not on the articleitself). After Colorado left on the 27th and before August 4th, when uw and uo skipped the GOR signing. A lot happened in a short time. Yep... get all that. But, does any of it mean, or even imply: "Even more then that. Ken Deboer was in the middle of their bailing, he was telling the ad and president that Huskie football could not survive being streaming only." Nope... and no one can truly think the HC has any say/influence in the final decision. Or, I guess some do?! Here is KB's quote about realignment issues, and input during Pac12 media day: "If any information filters to DeBoer from athletic director Jen Cohen, he said, it’s this: “Don’t believe what you read, most of the time, especially the ones that are a little bit stronger and kind of come out of left field.” When his input is required, she’ll ask him. Other than that, he said, “There really isn’t a lot of involvement with me, (and) I don’t expect (there) to be.”
|
|