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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 21:19:43 GMT -8
How many young women do you know that are anxious to sleep with the old coaches of the team rather than the young stud players? This rumor is BS plain and simple.
Unless of course the women are from UofO. They'll sleep with anything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 21:49:43 GMT -8
How many young women do you know that are anxious to sleep with the old coaches of the team rather than the young stud players? This rumor is BS plain and simple. Unless of course the women are from UofO. They'll sleep with anything. Yeah, young woman never go for powerful men with money, that never happens. Lol It may be BS but please, plenty of young woman fall for older powerful men with money and a coach would qualify on a college campus.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 5:07:22 GMT -8
How many young women do you know that are anxious to sleep with the old coaches of the team rather than the young stud players? This rumor is BS plain and simple. Unless of course the women are from UofO. They'll sleep with anything. Yeah, young woman never go for powerful men with money, that never happens. Lol It may be BS but please, plenty of young woman fall for older powerful men with money and a coach would qualify on a college campus. holy crap this is the sh&t thread of all time. What in sweet jesus does this have to do with beaver football? Get your head in the game fellas. SC is going to make you even more morose.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 5, 2017 6:18:12 GMT -8
Haven’t read the comments, and I’ve never been to Angry Beaver, but sleeping with coeds and “partying” would certainly be grounds for a “for cause” termination with no buyout. Just trying to think positive here... Based on what? Where in GA's contract does it say this? Where in his contract does it say his assistant coaches can't do this? Where in his contract does it say that he's responsible for the off hours conduct of his staff?
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Post by bill82 on Oct 5, 2017 6:43:25 GMT -8
Haven’t read the comments, and I’ve never been to Angry Beaver, but sleeping with coeds and “partying” would certainly be grounds for a “for cause” termination with no buyout. Just trying to think positive here... Based on what? Where in GA's contract does it say this? Where in his contract does it say his assistant coaches can't do this? Where in his contract does it say that he's responsible for the off hours conduct of his staff? Does not have to be in contract: From Oregon State Sexual Misconduct Policy: "Employee conduct directed towards a student, whether unwelcome or welcome, may constitute sexual harassment, and may also violate the Consensual Relationships Policy (http://eoa.oregonstate.edu/consensual-relationships-policy).
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Post by messi on Oct 5, 2017 6:55:36 GMT -8
Putting the Jerry Springer content aside, the threat of transfers en masse is unsettling. LaVonda Wagner again? Hopefully lightning can strike twice in the aftermath.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 5, 2017 7:33:58 GMT -8
Haven’t read the comments, and I’ve never been to Angry Beaver, but sleeping with coeds and “partying” would certainly be grounds for a “for cause” termination with no buyout. Just trying to think positive here... Based on what? Where in GA's contract does it say this? Where in his contract does it say his assistant coaches can't do this? Where in his contract does it say that he's responsible for the off hours conduct of his staff? It would be practically unheard of for a college coaching contract to not have a morality clause of some kind in it. You are expected at all times to represent Oregon State university even during "off hours". If we are paying you hundreds of thousands of dollars, or millions in the case of the HC, you need to keep your nose clean.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 5, 2017 9:11:19 GMT -8
Based on what? Where in GA's contract does it say this? Where in his contract does it say his assistant coaches can't do this? Where in his contract does it say that he's responsible for the off hours conduct of his staff? Does not have to be in contract: From Oregon State Sexual Misconduct Policy: "Employee conduct directed towards a student, whether unwelcome or welcome, may constitute sexual harassment, and may also violate the Consensual Relationships Policy (http://eoa.oregonstate.edu/consensual-relationships-policy). Sexual harassment only applies if the student is in a subordinate position, that is -- as a supervisee or someone in a subordinate power relationship. "Consensual romantic, intimate, or sexual relationships are of concern to Oregon State University when one of the parties has institutional responsibility for or authority over the other." "Integrity can be compromised when individuals evaluate the work or academic performance of other individuals with whom they have a consensual relationship." "Power may be abused within a consensual relationship between an employee and someone for whom he or she has supervisory, decision-making, evaluative, academic or advisory responsibilities." "Sexual harassment is distinguishable from situations covered by this Policy in that sexual harassment always involves conduct that is unwelcome, is a clear abuse of authority, or produces defined negative effects on individuals." So, unless there is an superior-subordinate relationship, the policy does not apply. But, there might be contractual professional conduct clauses that apply. I was asking where in the contract it says GA can't schtook a coed.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 5, 2017 9:13:08 GMT -8
Based on what? Where in GA's contract does it say this? Where in his contract does it say his assistant coaches can't do this? Where in his contract does it say that he's responsible for the off hours conduct of his staff? It would be practically unheard of for a college coaching contract to not have a morality clause of some kind in it. You are expected at all times to represent Oregon State university even during "off hours". If we are paying you hundreds of thousands of dollars, or millions in the case of the HC, you need to keep your nose clean. Yes, I agree. BUT ... the OSU athletic department has not always done things correctly. So, exactly what their contracts say is relevant.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 5, 2017 9:51:57 GMT -8
Does not have to be in contract: From Oregon State Sexual Misconduct Policy: "Employee conduct directed towards a student, whether unwelcome or welcome, may constitute sexual harassment, and may also violate the Consensual Relationships Policy (http://eoa.oregonstate.edu/consensual-relationships-policy). Sexual harassment only applies if the student is in a subordinate position, that is -- as a supervisee or someone in a subordinate power relationship. "Consensual romantic, intimate, or sexual relationships are of concern to Oregon State University when one of the parties has institutional responsibility for or authority over the other." "Integrity can be compromised when individuals evaluate the work or academic performance of other individuals with whom they have a consensual relationship." "Power may be abused within a consensual relationship between an employee and someone for whom he or she has supervisory, decision-making, evaluative, academic or advisory responsibilities." "Sexual harassment is distinguishable from situations covered by this Policy in that sexual harassment always involves conduct that is unwelcome, is a clear abuse of authority, or produces defined negative effects on individuals." So, unless there is an superior-subordinate relationship, the policy does not apply. But, there might be contractual professional conduct clauses that apply. I was asking where in the contract it says GA can't schtook a coed. You are totally clueless... the above phrase or one similar is included in almost all clauses... it is vague and very easy to use to show "harm" to a co-ed under the guise of a consensual relationship. Todd Graham had to fire his own son for a consensual relationship with a female athlete in another sport. Look up as many quotes as you'd like... Any coach having sex with any student can be dismissed for cause... plain and simple.
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Post by bill82 on Oct 5, 2017 10:50:32 GMT -8
I see the "Employee conduct directed towards a student, whether unwelcome or welcome, may constitute sexual harassment" as the key phrase, along with one you cite;
"Sexual harassment is distinguishable from situations covered by this Policy in that sexual harassment always involves conduct that is unwelcome, is a clear abuse of authority, or produces defined negative effects on individuals."
If a coed complains, an investigation is conducted, I'm certain heads would roll. If assistants are involved GA gets hit with the "lack of institutional controls" charge. Corporate/University investigations don't end well for those who are not family. GA and his buds are not family.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 5, 2017 11:36:27 GMT -8
I see the "Employee conduct directed towards a student, whether unwelcome or welcome, may constitute sexual harassment" as the key phrase, along with one you cite; "Sexual harassment is distinguishable from situations covered by this Policy in that sexual harassment always involves conduct that is unwelcome, is a clear abuse of authority, or produces defined negative effects on individuals." If a coed complains, an investigation is conducted, I'm certain heads would roll. If assistants are involved GA gets hit with the "lack of institutional controls" charge. Corporate/University investigations don't end well for those who are not family. GA and his buds are not family. Agreed. IF the coed complains. But, if she doesn't, barring any language in their contracts to prohibit it, the coaches can schtook away. At a minimum, it's really bad judgement.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 5, 2017 11:38:20 GMT -8
Sexual harassment only applies if the student is in a subordinate position, that is -- as a supervisee or someone in a subordinate power relationship. "Consensual romantic, intimate, or sexual relationships are of concern to Oregon State University when one of the parties has institutional responsibility for or authority over the other." "Integrity can be compromised when individuals evaluate the work or academic performance of other individuals with whom they have a consensual relationship." "Power may be abused within a consensual relationship between an employee and someone for whom he or she has supervisory, decision-making, evaluative, academic or advisory responsibilities." "Sexual harassment is distinguishable from situations covered by this Policy in that sexual harassment always involves conduct that is unwelcome, is a clear abuse of authority, or produces defined negative effects on individuals." So, unless there is an superior-subordinate relationship, the policy does not apply. But, there might be contractual professional conduct clauses that apply. I was asking where in the contract it says GA can't schtook a coed. You are totally clueless... the above phrase or one similar is included in almost all clauses... it is vague and very easy to use to show "harm" to a co-ed under the guise of a consensual relationship. Todd Graham had to fire his own son for a consensual relationship with a female athlete in another sport. Look up as many quotes as you'd like... Any coach having sex with any student can be dismissed for cause... plain and simple.Is there a source to substantiate today's need to be the expert in all things?
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Post by beaver55to7 on Oct 5, 2017 14:05:50 GMT -8
Does not have to be in contract: From Oregon State Sexual Misconduct Policy: "Employee conduct directed towards a student, whether unwelcome or welcome, may constitute sexual harassment, and may also violate the Consensual Relationships Policy (http://eoa.oregonstate.edu/consensual-relationships-policy). "Consensual romantic, intimate, or sexual relationships are of concern to Oregon State University when one of the parties has institutional responsibility for or authority over the other." "Institutional responsibility for"....that pretty much covers all employees in position of authority/student relationships I would think. A professor would have institutional responsibility for any student, whether that student was in their class or not. The janitor would not have institutional responsibility.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 5, 2017 15:55:50 GMT -8
"Consensual romantic, intimate, or sexual relationships are of concern to Oregon State University when one of the parties has institutional responsibility for or authority over the other." "Institutional responsibility for"....that pretty much covers all employees in position of authority/student relationships I would think. A professor would have institutional responsibility for any student, whether that student was in their class or not. The janitor would not have institutional responsibility. Yes, but not all for all. If I was a professor, I have institutional authority over my students, advisees, etc. But, if I'm the football coach, it doesn't necessarily mean I have institutional authority over a civil engineering major is is not in my classes, working directly with or for me in an athletic capacity, an athlete tutor, etc. Essentially, if I met the woman at Peacock's but never see her any other place or function related to the University, I can schtook her to our hearts desire. Should I? Probably not.
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