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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 24, 2017 21:28:21 GMT -8
Shoved him to third on the depth chart, ran him off to Fresno, and he proceeds to take a 1 win team from last year to 10 wins in a dominate bowl performance. They were picked to finish last in their conference! They won by 6. I wouldn’t call that dominate.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 24, 2017 21:35:10 GMT -8
They won by 6. I wouldn’t call that dominate. Or dominant. I was quoting PCM. I guess you weren’t too quick on the uptake.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 24, 2017 21:42:49 GMT -8
I was quoting PCM. I guess you weren’t too quick on the uptake. I don't see any quotes. Nice backpedal, though. I'm just fine on the uptake. Look at PCM’s post genius
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 24, 2017 21:43:20 GMT -8
Wheee!
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 24, 2017 21:53:18 GMT -8
Look at PCM’s post genius Is that anything like "Look at PCM's post, genius," or are you quoting, again? Merry Christmas grammar Nazi
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 1:16:13 GMT -8
Under Riley it takes 3 years of actually playing before our QBs actually grasp MR's play calling and concepts. I'm not sure Marcus was ever going excel under MR. Under the Anderson Boob Squad, they did understand what the hell they even wanted to run for an offense...so how do evaluate and groom a player like 3M if there is no game plan or big picture concept. Tedford realized 3M's strengths and and catered the playbook and more importantly...the in game, play calling to fit those strengths...and to build player confidence. Most of Fresno's passing plays are very crisp, clear / open and in tempo play calls. I wouldn't call them "simple"...but very executable. Good for Marcus... for finding success that he has worked so hard to achieve. Go Beavs!
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 1:18:45 GMT -8
Under Riley it takes 3 years of actually playing before our QBs actually grasp MR's play calling and concepts. I'm not sure Marcus was ever going excel under MR. Under the Anderson Boob Squad, they did understand what the hell they even wanted to run for an offense...so how do evaluate and groom a player like 3M if there is no game plan or big picture concept. Tedford realized 3M's strengths and and catered the playbook and more importantly...the in game, play calling to fit those strengths...and to build player confidence. Most of Fresno's passing plays are very crisp, clear / open and in tempo play calls. I wouldn't call them "simple"...but very executable. Good for Marcus... for finding success that he has worked so hard to achieve. Go Beavs! Under the Anderson Boob Squad, they DID'NT...
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 5:38:48 GMT -8
Under Riley it takes 3 years of actually playing before our QBs actually grasp MR's play calling and concepts. Not even remotely true. by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due just fine. Mannion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players everyone considers great under Riley. JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. MM 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes a lot of time in his system to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 5:40:49 GMT -8
by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due just fine. Mannion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players everyone considers great under Riley. JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. 3M 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes a lot of time in his system to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs 3M...should be MM; Matt Moore
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 25, 2017 8:58:21 GMT -8
by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due just fine. Mannion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players everyone considers great under Riley. JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. 3M 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes a lot of time in his system to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs The years you listed were the FIRST seasons under Riley fo both DA and Moore. It didn’t take them r years to learn his system.
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Post by four2itus on Dec 25, 2017 10:15:18 GMT -8
People will find fault with each other...even on a holiday. What ever a former player was, did, or still does, is no longer relevant to this board, because they are gone. So is the group who affected his time here. All there is left is position on the matter. What does that accomplish?
Merry Christmas everyone!
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Post by BeaverTailChaser on Dec 25, 2017 13:23:17 GMT -8
by the time Riley's QBs are seniors they due just fine. Mannion excelled because he played a lot over the 4 year span. Here are some numbers of the players everyone considers great under Riley. JS gets an incomplete, since he only, actually played under Riley for one year. JS 1998 - 6 games. 44.8% comp. 1427 yards. 6 TDs. 5 Ints. The next 2, I used there Junior years, each 1st years under Riley. DA 2003 - 13 games. 51.2% comp. 4058 yards. 24 TDs. 24 Ints. 3M 2005 - 10 games. 59.4% comp. 2711 yards. 11TDs. 19 Ints. Some good and bad here for junior years. A lot of turnovers. I just believe the learning curve for Riley's QBs is steep...and takes a lot of time in his system to reflect consistent success. Go Beavs The years you listed were the FIRST seasons under Riley fo both DA and Moore. It didn’t take them r years to learn his system. I understand it was DAs and Moore's first years under Riley...I stated that. I'm just trying to compare Marcus' success under Tedford with only being under his play calling and tuteledge for about 6 months. Trying to compare similar time frames.
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Post by jdogge on Dec 25, 2017 15:05:31 GMT -8
Is that anything like "Look at PCM's post, genius," or are you quoting, again? Merry Christmas grammar Nazi I offer the following correction: "Merry Christmas grammar Nazi."
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Post by jdogge on Dec 25, 2017 15:06:35 GMT -8
They won by 6. I wouldn’t call that dominate. Threw an early pick and proceeded to respond with 400 yards of total offense and a win. Call it what ever you want. Dude. It was Fresno State.
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