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Post by tpflaming63 on Jan 18, 2018 0:33:27 GMT -8
Ouch!!
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 18, 2018 4:57:09 GMT -8
Truthfully I thought that would be the half time spread
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Post by sagebrush on Jan 18, 2018 6:47:38 GMT -8
t OSU +31. Lock. Urban has a hard on and will roll anyone he can to prove his point.
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Post by nexus73 on Jan 18, 2018 9:38:37 GMT -8
If we were Ohio State fans instead of Oregon State fans, I'd say most of us would wonder why we weren't favored by more! That being said, sometimes the "obvious winner" goes into underperform mode. Remember the year we played Nebraska in Lincoln and led at the half 7-0? Their fans even booed the home team at the half! Yes, we wound up losing 35-7 but I bet we covered the point spread.
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Post by beavadelic on Jan 18, 2018 11:31:34 GMT -8
If we were Ohio State fans instead of Oregon State fans, I'd say most of us would wonder why we weren't favored by more! That being said, sometimes the "obvious winner" goes into underperform mode. Remember the year we played Nebraska in Lincoln and led at the half 7-0? Their fans even booed the home team at the half! Yes, we wound up losing 35-7 but I bet we covered the point spread. I don’t see this as a knock on us, just a hard reality. Is there any other place in America that we should be a bigger dog than the Horseshoe (other than Tuscaloosa)? We are playing one of the top 3 or 4 most-heralded programs in College Football history. Urban is a tremendous coach, and the athletes in Columbus are among the best in the country. We haven’t won a road game since 2013, are coming off of an embarrassing season playing under the dictatorship of a terrible coach (at least a below-average one who was a horrible fit here) I believe that this staff could prepare our team to go in and not embarrass itself. Since it’s the first game of the season, even the Buckeyes could be rusty and have to fight the urge to sleepwalk through the game. It’s all hypothetical - and we don’t even know yet exactly what we’ll run on offense or defense, but I could see a score along the lines of 31-14.....but I could also see a 52-10 game. I’ll hold out hope for the former.
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Post by nexus73 on Jan 18, 2018 15:59:31 GMT -8
If we were Ohio State fans instead of Oregon State fans, I'd say most of us would wonder why we weren't favored by more! That being said, sometimes the "obvious winner" goes into underperform mode. Remember the year we played Nebraska in Lincoln and led at the half 7-0? Their fans even booed the home team at the half! Yes, we wound up losing 35-7 but I bet we covered the point spread. I don’t see this as a knock on us, just a hard reality. Is there any other place in America that we should be a bigger dog than the Horseshoe (other than Tuscaloosa)? We are playing one of the top 3 or 4 most-heralded programs in College Football history. Urban is a tremendous coach, and the athletes in Columbus are among the best in the country. We haven’t won a road game since 2013, are coming off of an embarrassing season playing under the dictatorship of a terrible coach (at least a below-average one who was a horrible fit here) I believe that this staff could prepare our team to go in and not embarrass itself. Since it’s the first game of the season, even the Buckeyes could be rusty and have to fight the urge to sleepwalk through the game. It’s all hypothetical - and we don’t even know yet exactly what we’ll run on offense or defense, but I could see a score along the lines of 31-14.....but I could also see a 52-10 game. I’ll hold out hope for the former. If I was going to bet this game, I'd take the 31 with no worries. 42 is where the spread should be given the disparity between these teams and at that point, you have a real gamble as to whether the heavy favorite shows up strong and if the underdog gets a pride TD to cover late in the game.
In past seasons we have seen OSU undervalued vs the pointspread and betting on us was a way to win the $$$. If we suck total rutabagas in year 1, look for year 2 spreads to take a while to catch up to any improvements on our side. It'll take a sharp eye with no rose-colored glasses to see if we can cover coming out of the gate. At least we do have plenty of fine fans who give detailed practice reports on whatever Beaver football forums they are on.
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Post by usmc1958 on Jan 18, 2018 17:17:29 GMT -8
If we were Ohio State fans instead of Oregon State fans, I'd say most of us would wonder why we weren't favored by more! That being said, sometimes the "obvious winner" goes into underperform mode. Remember the year we played Nebraska in Lincoln and led at the half 7-0? Their fans even booed the home team at the half! Yes, we wound up losing 35-7 but I bet we covered the point spread. I don't remember the year or the points but, seems like the Beavs, led by Joe A. were leading tOSU at the half and the national radio guys were scrambling to get Joe lined up for an interview, just in case. The old memory is a bit foggy but seems like I also remember when Fertig almost beat Perdu. I've often wondered if our future would have been altered if we had won either game.
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Post by usmc1958 on Jan 18, 2018 17:21:50 GMT -8
Truthfully I thought that would be the half time spread A true blue Beaver believer with a big pair of brass ones would put at least a hundred on the Beavs to cover. Hey, it could happen.
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Post by mbabeav on Jan 18, 2018 17:29:26 GMT -8
Truthfully I thought that would be the half time spread A true blue Beaver believer with a big pair of brass ones would put at least a hundred on the Beavs to cover. Hey, it could happen. I am surprised there is even a number up on the board for this game, especially this early.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 19, 2018 15:01:13 GMT -8
So what?
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Post by nexus73 on Jan 19, 2018 16:44:26 GMT -8
If we were Ohio State fans instead of Oregon State fans, I'd say most of us would wonder why we weren't favored by more! That being said, sometimes the "obvious winner" goes into underperform mode. Remember the year we played Nebraska in Lincoln and led at the half 7-0? Their fans even booed the home team at the half! Yes, we wound up losing 35-7 but I bet we covered the point spread. I don't remember the year or the points but, seems like the Beavs, led by Joe A. were leading tOSU at the half and the national radio guys were scrambling to get Joe lined up for an interview, just in case. The old memory is a bit foggy but seems like I also remember when Fertig almost beat Perdu. I've often wondered if our future would have been altered if we had won either game. To me a career changer would have been Fertig's first game. We had Kansas at home with the Jayhawks coming in as Big 8 favorites due to their win over Oklahoma in the previous season. Nolan Cromwell was the QB, a real stud who had set an NCAA rushing record for a QB against us in 1975. On our side we had Dennis Boyd and Kerry Justin as two D-studs who had decent NFL careers. We played the Jayhawks tough but got squeezed out in the end. I like to believe if we win that game, Fertig gets OSU a winning record, recruits come in and we are in the fray with USC, UCLA and UW. It's just an "opinion" belief though.
Fertig also had a chance to claim the first ever win for the Beavs against an SEC team, Tennessee. We did wind up with a 13-13 tie. That is still the only time we did not lose the game to a team from that conference but a W would have been nice and left us at 5-6 that year as I recall.
Oh if only the OSU administration had found in itself to be dedicated to our sports programs in the Seventies. Imagine Mouse Davis's Run & Shoot in Corvallis with Neil Lomax pulling the trigger!
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Post by sagebrush on Jan 19, 2018 20:16:01 GMT -8
Nexus, I would be about 1/4 tempted to take the 42.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 22, 2018 14:21:49 GMT -8
If we were Ohio State fans instead of Oregon State fans, I'd say most of us would wonder why we weren't favored by more! That being said, sometimes the "obvious winner" goes into underperform mode. Remember the year we played Nebraska in Lincoln and led at the half 7-0? Their fans even booed the home team at the half! Yes, we wound up losing 35-7 but I bet we covered the point spread. I think you are conflating the 1989 and 1990 games against Nebraska. In 1989, Nebraska won 35-7 but led 14-0 at the half. In 1990, Oregon State entered Lincoln 0-4, having lost the first four to Montana, 22-15; 3-7-1 Kansas, 38-12 (biggest win for the Jayhawks against any opponent, including five against FCS opponents, between 1985 and 1991); 3-8 UNLV, 45-20 (biggest win for the Rebels against a regular season FBS opponent between 1980 and 2000); and 5-6 Stanford, 37-3 (biggest win between 1987 and 1991). Nebraska was #6 in the country and a 51 1/2 point favorite. Oregon State scored after a fumbled punt and face-mask penalty left the Beavers 12 yards away from the end zone. Nebraska made a 22-yard field goal but missed a 49-yard field goal to go into the locker room down 7-3. Tom Osborne told the Cornhuskers that a loss to Oregon State would be "the biggest embarrassment" is school history. Nebraska went up 10-7 after a 66-yard touchdown run on the second offensive play of the second half but only led 10-7 into the fourth quarter before scoring 21 unanswered points to win 31-7. In between the Stanford and Nebraska games, Kragthorpe implemented a 5-2 defense, which kept the Cornhuskers in check for most of the game. Oregon State's offense, though, was held to 133 yards on 66 plays, 2.0 yards per play, with two turnovers.
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Post by ag87 on Jan 22, 2018 14:42:29 GMT -8
Going from memory. Tuaolo's last year. Nebraska had a all-american center. Osborne said there would be no special blocking schemes on Tuaolo. Osborne says their guy was the best in the country and could handle Tuaolo. Tuaolo, on his own, took away the fullback dive. Everyone else could concentrate on the qb and the pitch. Early in the 4th quarter, Osborne and the OC decide they need to double and triple team Tuaolo. Game over.
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Post by bennyorange on Jan 22, 2018 14:51:54 GMT -8
I think you are conflating the 1989 and 1990 games against Nebraska. In 1989, Nebraska won 35-7 but led 14-0 at the half. In 1990, Oregon State entered Lincoln 0-4, having lost the first four to Montana, 22-15; 3-7-1 Kansas, 38-12 (biggest win for the Jayhawks against any opponent, including five against FCS opponents, between 1985 and 1991); 3-8 UNLV, 45-20 (biggest win for the Rebels against a regular season FBS opponent between 1980 and 2000); and 5-6 Stanford, 37-3 (biggest win between 1987 and 1991). Nebraska was #6 in the country and a 51 1/2 point favorite. Oregon State scored after a fumbled punt and face-mask penalty left the Beavers 12 yards away from the end zone. Nebraska made a 22-yard field goal but missed a 49-yard field goal to go into the locker room down 7-3. Tom Osborne told the Cornhuskers that a loss to Oregon State would be "the biggest embarrassment" is school history. Nebraska went up 10-7 after a 66-yard touchdown run on the second offensive play of the second half but only led 10-7 into the fourth quarter before scoring 21 unanswered points to win 31-7. In between the Stanford and Nebraska games, Kragthorpe implemented a 5-2 defense, which kept the Cornhuskers in check for most of the game. Oregon State's offense, though, was held to 133 yards on 66 plays, 2.0 yards per play, with two turnovers. I drove through Lincoln on a cross country adventure the summer of 1990 with my 8 year old son. I stopped in Baker City on my way out of the state and installed a crude plywood air dam to deflect the wind from hitting a luggage rack filled with a cargo carrier and other essentials for a cross country camping trip. When we entered Lincoln I went a bought a big black felt pen and drew a huge football with "Touchdown Beavers" on it which stayed there for the rest of the trip to the East coast and back. I can't tell you how many rubber necks I saw of people trying to figure out what the heck it said as I drove by. I question whether anyone in Lincoln made the connection with our upcoming game there but it sure made me feel good !!
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