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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 24, 2018 19:00:49 GMT -8
Beavs Rose Bowl team dropped a close one in the Coliseum.
Great to see the prewar color film.
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Post by EOBeav on Jan 24, 2018 19:29:06 GMT -8
Very cool. I wonder why the switch from color to b/w? And it got really shaky at the end, too. That's quite a difference from what they play today. Thanks for the share.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 24, 2018 19:46:40 GMT -8
Very cool. I wonder why the switch from color to b/w? And it got really shaky at the end, too. That's quite a difference from what they play today. Thanks for the share. Color film of that day required more light to expose an image. You can see the shadows getting longer and longer and finally the sun is below the rim of the Coliseum and they're playing in Fall twilight. You could see that last bit of color film at 2:53 was probably shot with the aperture wide open and was all dark blue. Like the way the newspaper cameramen were standing well into the endzone on OSU goal line run at 3:00. |
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Post by EOBeav on Jan 25, 2018 7:47:23 GMT -8
Very cool. I wonder why the switch from color to b/w? And it got really shaky at the end, too. That's quite a difference from what they play today. Thanks for the share. Color film of that day required more light to expose an image. You could see that last bit of color film at 2:53 was probably shot with the aperture wide open and was all dark blue. You can see the shadows getting longer and longer and finally the sun is below the rim of the Coliseum and they're playing in Fall twilight. Like the way the newspaper cameramen were standing well into the endzone on OSU goal line run at 3:00. I shoot quite a bit (including film) so I do understand what you're saying. I hadn't factored in the changing afternoon light. They must have shot that first part on a chrome emulsion of some kind, it's beautiful. Another thing, I'm pretty sure I saw Jay Stricherz blow a call in there, lol |
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Post by seastape on Jan 25, 2018 8:18:21 GMT -8
On another thread, we were discussing how awful the Jerry Allen, the announcer for the yucks, is. As I watched the video, with the dead time from the announcer and no description of the action, it made me think that Allen might be best suited for tv.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Jan 25, 2018 8:49:00 GMT -8
On another thread, we were discussing how awful the Jerry Allen, the announcer for the yucks, is. As I watched the video, with the dead time from the announcer and no description of the action, it made me think that Allen might be best suited for tv. and so when he says....Did you see that! everyone will say YES!!! |
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Post by nexus73 on Jan 25, 2018 9:46:26 GMT -8
20 years later we won at the Coliseum. Since then we're 0-fer with some close ones mixed in. So what comes first, a Beaver win at the Coliseum or a Beaver win in the Rose Bowl when it is played in Pasadena? Hard to believe a team could be so cursed as we are in the Southland but there is an even worse streak in the NFL. Detroit has never defeated Washington in Washington and those two teams have played each other since 1937 although some seasons did skip their meeting up.
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Post by bennyorange on Jan 25, 2018 11:16:21 GMT -8
20 years later we won at the Coliseum. Since then we're 0-fer with some close ones mixed in. So what comes first, a Beaver win at the Coliseum or a Beaver win in the Rose Bowl when it is played in Pasadena? Hard to believe a team could be so cursed as we are in the Southland but there is an even worse streak in the NFL. Detroit has never defeated Washington in Washington and those two teams have played each other since 1937 although some seasons did skip their meeting up. Sadly, I don't think the Rose Bowl will ever be THE Rose Bowl it once was. I've never been to the Coliseum for a regular season game or the bowl game and I was crushed when we missed out back in the Riley era. I was ready to break the bank and buy a suite and hope I could somehow fill it up. I vaguely remember going to an alumni friends group of my parents to watch the 1965 Rose Bowl which appears to be as close as I'll ever get. That game against Michigan State was a stinker. I was born in 1957 when we lost to Iowa State so my lifetime record isn't very good. Still, if we manage to qualify for the new Rose Bowl it would still be on my bucket list. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 25, 2018 12:04:44 GMT -8
20 years later we won at the Coliseum. Since then we're 0-fer with some close ones mixed in. So what comes first, a Beaver win at the Coliseum or a Beaver win in the Rose Bowl when it is played in Pasadena? Hard to believe a team could be so cursed as we are in the Southland but there is an even worse streak in the NFL. Detroit has never defeated Washington in Washington and those two teams have played each other since 1937 although some seasons did skip their meeting up. UCLA and USC shared the Coliseum from 1933-1981, so the Beavers wins against the Bruins in 1940, 1948, and 1971 (as well as the ties in 1938, 1939, and 1967) were all at the Coliseum. Oregon State's win over UCLA in 1971 is the Beavers' last win in the Coliseum. The Detroit Lions and Washington Redskins started to play each other in 1938. The Redskins moved from Boston (Fenway Park) to Washington (Griffith Stadium) in 1937. Prior to that time, the Portsmouth Spartans/Detroit Lions were undefeated at Fenway. The Lions beat the Redskins, when Washington was the "home" team, in 2013 but that was in Landover, Maryland, not Washington. The Lions did lose the 21 "road" contests prior to 2013. However, only 18 were in Washington. The Redskins historically have had the Lions' number, going 30-5 against the Lions between 1935 and 2009, and two of the Lions wins were in consecutive seasons in 1999 and 2000. The Redskins won 18 straight against the Lions between 1965 and 1999. Between UCLA and USC, Oregon State has lost 23 consecutive games in the Coliseum and 24 straight to the Trojans in the Coliseum. Although the Lions might have the Beavers beat in regards to longest time between road wins against an opponent, the Beavers beat the Lions in shear quantity. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 25, 2018 13:15:24 GMT -8
20 years later we won at the Coliseum. Since then we're 0-fer with some close ones mixed in. So what comes first, a Beaver win at the Coliseum or a Beaver win in the Rose Bowl when it is played in Pasadena? Hard to believe a team could be so cursed as we are in the Southland but there is an even worse streak in the NFL. Detroit has never defeated Washington in Washington and those two teams have played each other since 1937 although some seasons did skip their meeting up. Sadly, I don't think the Rose Bowl will ever be THE Rose Bowl it once was. I've never been to the Coliseum for a regular season game or the bowl game and I was crushed when we missed out back in the Riley era. I was ready to break the bank and buy a suite and hope I could somehow fill it up. I vaguely remember going to an alumni friends group of my parents to watch the 1965 Rose Bowl which appears to be as close as I'll ever get. That game against Michigan State was a stinker. I was born in 1957 when we lost to Iowa State so my lifetime record isn't very good. Still, if we manage to qualify for the new Rose Bowl it would still be on my bucket list. I think that you added "State" to both Rose Bowl opponents. The 1957 Rose Bowl was against the Iowa Hawkeyes. The 1965 Rose Bowl was against the Michigan Wolverines. Oregon State has only played Iowa State once in game 1 of the magical 1962 Liberty Bowl/Terry Baker Heisman season. Baker threw a 43-yard touchdown to Jerry Neil with 29 seconds left to win 39-35. The game was Neil's last as a receiver. Neil subsequently was converted into a Guard/Tackle. Neil played as a guard at the 1965 Rose Bowl. Oregon State rode the train to East Lansing to defeat Michigan State in 1915 in a huge upset. The Beavers tied the Spartans in East Lansing in 1942, Oregon State's final game for three years, because of World War II. In between 1948 and 1953, Oregon State and Michigan State played six straight years, three in East Lansing, two in Portland, and one in Corvallis. The Beavers beat the #8 Spartans 25-20 in Portland in 1949 (kicker/defensive lineman Stan McGuire famously kicking two extra points, a field goal, and tacking on a safety in his one of the last games before his untimely death in the offseason). Oregon State lost the next four, but the 1951 (6-0 in East Lansing) and 1952 (17-14 in Portland) versions were one-score affairs. The Beavers and Spartans' final game in the series was a 31-14 Michigan State win in East Lansing in 1971, which helped to create the first year of The Streak. Of non-conference teams that will field an FBS team this year, Michigan State is tied for Oregon State's sixth most-played opponent with Boise State. That list: 1. Fresno State 13
2. Iowa 12
3. BYU 11
3. Nebraska 11
5. Hawai'i 10
6. Boise State 9
6. Michigan State 9If you add Pac-12 rivals: 1. Oregon 121
2. Washington 102
3. Washington St. 102
4. Stanford 84
5. USC 77
6. California 70
7. UCLA 63
8. Arizona State 42
9. Arizona 39
10. Utah 2111. Fresno State 13 12. Iowa 12 13. BYU 11 13. Nebraska 11 15. Colorado 10 15. Hawai'i 10 17. Boise State 9 17. Michigan State 9 |
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Post by bennyorange on Jan 25, 2018 13:35:36 GMT -8
Brain fart on my part - sorry about that.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 25, 2018 13:43:11 GMT -8
Brain fart on my part - sorry about that. That's ok. I always like to hear about the good ol' days before The Streak started. My memory does not quite stretch back that far. |
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Post by nexus73 on Jan 25, 2018 16:34:21 GMT -8
Now I know why I hate Fresno State so much. We played them too many times...LOL! Never in a million years would I have guessed Nebraska and Michigan State were on the list so high.
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Post by jefframp on Jan 26, 2018 9:19:28 GMT -8
Now I know why I hate Fresno State so much. We played them too many times...LOL! Never in a million years would I have guessed Nebraska and Michigan State were on the list so high. Agree and thought Portland State might have been on that list. Edit: PSU is not an FBS school. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 26, 2018 13:19:02 GMT -8
Now I know why I hate Fresno State so much. We played them too many times...LOL! Never in a million years would I have guessed Nebraska and Michigan State were on the list so high. Outside of the 12 conference rivals (and even including Colorado), Oregon State's biggest historical rival was Fresno. Not only did Beavers and Bulldogs play a lot, but all of the games were packed into a 23-year period. There were two "long" gaps, 1982-1984 and 1995-1998. Otherwise, Oregon State and Fresno played 13 times in the other 16 years in that period. The only years off were 1987, 1990, and 2000. Just for reference, games against all opponents 1981-2003: Oregon 23 Arizona 22 Stanford 22 Washington 21 California 19 USC 19 Washington St. 19 Arizona State 18 UCLA 17 Fresno State 13
San Jose State 4
UNLV 4
5 tied with 3
Michigan State and Oregon State have a history, starting with the Beavers' long train ride to upset the Spartans in 1915. Otherwise, the bulk of the games were in a six-year period in the late 40s and early 50s, Oregon State famously winning the 1949 affair in Portland and losing the rest.
Nebraska famously poached E.J. Stewart, Oregon State's coach before the 1916 season. And E.J. Stewart brought the Cornhuskers with him back to Portland in 1916 to beat the Beavers in Portland. Paul Schlissler played Nebraska in 1924, the first year that he tried to add more marquee opponents to the regular season schedule, a Nebraska win. Nebraska was not on Oregon State's schedule in 1933, but the Cornhuskers got Stiner to get the Ironmen to play in Lincoln on Oregon State's return trip from Oregon State's 9-6 victory over Fordham at the Polo Grounds with Nebraska winning 22-0. By agreeing to play the Cornhuskers in 1933, Stiner got Nebraska to agree to a home-and-home in 1935 and 1936, both Cornhusker wins. Stiner got Nebraska to agree to another home-and-home in 1947 and 1948, which are the only Oregon State wins in the series. The Beavers and Cornhuskers met twice in the 50s, which were the final games in the series until Kragthrope took Oregon State to Lincoln to lose twice in 1989 and 1990. |
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