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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 10:31:49 GMT -8
For the love of all that is, please get rid of the chainsaw. Everytime it plays, I feel the urge to dive under my seat. It's traumatized me. A mostly untrue history of the Chainsaw Noise at Oregon State football games would include the story of the first time the noise was heard at a game back in the early 2000s when the beavs often had a punishing and fearsome defense (this part is true). An inadvertent button push by a substitute soundboard operator just before the snap on an important 3rd down for the defense changed the course of beaver football ever so slightly. Just as the crowd noise ramped up in a mostly full Parker stadium the first 10 seconds of recorded PSA for Northwest Timber Council roared through the stadium speakers.. Actually i have no recollection of when that noise first split eardrums and i don't know who thought it up or what they were thinking, but it probably started when the beavs had a good D and it was just jarring enough and unexpected to pump up the crowd. But it's ridiculous now to play it on every third down. Especially on 3rd downs that are barely contested or when the score is out of hand. How about saving it for special occasions? Like 4th quarters when there is a decent chance to win a game?
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 31, 2019 10:48:26 GMT -8
The only problem with the chainsaw right now is that it is a direct precursor to the opposing offense getting a first down. But that's not the chainsaw's fault. And you don't have to be a redneck to own/use a chainsaw. You just have to live in the northwest on a bit of land. I think the chainsaw is as good a way as any to fire up the home crowd on 3rd down. Now we just need the crowd to get rewarded with a few stops. The chainsaw sound has become the antithesis of what it is supposed to represent. Instead of firing up the crowd, it now causes me to cringe because invariably it is our defense that is cut down and sliced like fresh pine into sections for hauling off to the mill. Have we had even a good defense, an adequate defense, since that sound was introduced as a motivator? I would stay totally sober playing a drinking game involving taking a drink if the Beavs got a stop after they cranked up the chainsaw. Maybe a weed whacker then? You gotta walk before you can run!
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Post by damnstraight on Aug 31, 2019 11:11:20 GMT -8
My opinion....nothing sounds more hokie than that chainsaw, especially when it is in middle of 4th quarter, it is 3rd and 2, and Beavs are trailing by 24 points. It paints the entire university and football program as a JC level program. Ugh.
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Post by Mike84 on Aug 31, 2019 11:18:10 GMT -8
The only problem with the chainsaw right now is that it is a direct precursor to the opposing offense getting a first down. But that's not the chainsaw's fault. And you don't have to be a redneck to own/use a chainsaw. You just have to live in the northwest on a bit of land. I think the chainsaw is as good a way as any to fire up the home crowd on 3rd down. Now we just need the crowd to get rewarded with a few stops. The chainsaw sound has become the antithesis of what it is supposed to represent. Instead of firing up the crowd, it now causes me to cringe because invariably it is our defense that is cut down and sliced like fresh pine into sections for hauling off to the mill. Have we had even a good defense, an adequate defense, since that sound was introduced as a motivator? Uh, yeah. We have. The chainsaw on 3rd down has been around since the early 2000's. Watch the 2006 win over USC from Reser on YouTube. The 3rd down chainsaw was there. It was there when we beat USC in 2008. It was there when Wisconsin was held to 7 points in 2012 (the Beavers were second in the conference in scoring defense in 2012, the last time we had a unarguably good defense). The relatively recent ineffectiveness of our defense cannot be blamed on the chainsaw. It's not like playing the chainsaw sound made our defense bad. If so, we'd play better defense on the road.
If we're going to go off of "what works" with our defense, we might as well decide to not have the home fans make noise at all. The crowd making extra noise on 3rd down developed for a reason and the chainsaw definitely helps the crowd get louder at Reser. Given the recent results of our 3rd down defense, we could just conclude that our crowd making noise leads to poor defensive performances.
But, whatever. Our current defensive performance is disheartening to the home fans and I guess we have to take it out on something. Personally, I like chainsaws and I like it as an OSU signature thing.
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Post by fishwrapper on Aug 31, 2019 11:27:34 GMT -8
The chainsaw sound effect worked, performing as expected each and every time the button was pressed in the sound booth. The chainsaw sound effect fired up the crowd each time - the roar of those dozens of people was impressive (especially considering the number of empty seats.)
The chainsaw is not the problem. It works. The defensive line, on the other hand...
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Post by mbabeav on Aug 31, 2019 12:02:51 GMT -8
It is pretty red neckish. Reminds me of the Arkansas Souy call in Omaha...every play. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. I grew up around family members who worked in the woods. They were hell-bent on our generation getting college educations so we wouldn’t have to do that dangerous, back breaking work. But I’ll never say anything bad about those folks who work in that essential industry. I like the chainsaw. But I’m just one vote. . I am not at all knocking my friends relatives and people who I know who have been injured or killed working in the woods. I'm just making the point that the chainsaw has become to me the exact opposite of what it was meant to represent in the first place which was a way to fire up the crowd and the defense. We can find some other sound native to Oregon perhaps that can replace it. It just hurts to hear it right now because I know it usually means the other team is going to get a first down.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 31, 2019 12:48:38 GMT -8
The chainsaw would sound allot better if we were winning.
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Post by mb on Aug 31, 2019 12:51:59 GMT -8
Chainsaw? You mean that device which the College of Forestry used this summer to make kindling out of a 400 hundred year old tree? Hmmm. Yeah, seems to fit our third down defensive abilities. McDonald Forest is a research forest donated to the University for that purpose. If you want to see a 400 year old Doug fir tree, go up Woods Creek Rd and look around. MB.
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Post by nabeav on Aug 31, 2019 12:53:28 GMT -8
The Kate Brown thing was just me being grumpy about last night and wanting to make sure everyone else was as grumpy as me. I’m definitely not pro-recall for Brown (or Trump). Just trying to make a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 13:35:40 GMT -8
Chainsaw? You mean that device which the College of Forestry used this summer to make kindling out of a 400 hundred year old tree? Hmmm. Yeah, seems to fit our third down defensive abilities. McDonald Forest is a research forest donated to the University for that purpose. If you want to see a 400 year old Doug fir tree, go up Woods Creek Rd and look around. MB. Nope the official line from OSU is cutting the McDonald Old Growth for the profit was a mistake, a big mistake.
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Post by mb on Aug 31, 2019 14:28:56 GMT -8
McDonald Forest is a research forest donated to the University for that purpose. If you want to see a 400 year old Doug fir tree, go up Woods Creek Rd and look around. MB. Nope the official line from OSU is cutting the McDonald Old Growth for the profit was a mistake, a big mistake. I would rebut with 'succumbing to peer pressure and public opinion was a mistake,' but I won't; I'm done. Go Beavs and keep the chainsaw. MB.
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Post by beavheart on Aug 31, 2019 16:31:46 GMT -8
Chainsaw? You mean that device which the College of Forestry used this summer to make kindling out of a 400 hundred year old tree? Hmmm. Yeah, seems to fit our third down defensive abilities. Our defense is the universe exacting revenge on us for cutting down a 400 year old tree.
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Post by bigorangebeaver on Aug 31, 2019 18:10:01 GMT -8
And before any of you jump back, any of you ever fall and buck a tree, set a choker (if you even know what that is), or any of the nasty, back breaking work. I set chokers for about a month, quit that job to go fight fire... easier and safer work. I grew up in a logging community in Washington, and personally know two people who were killed while working as choker setters. So, yeah, super dangerous.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 31, 2019 19:48:12 GMT -8
I am being serious here. In an old-growth forest, is there any way to accurately tell how old a tree is before it is cut down? Is there any way of knowing this sacred tree was 400 years old?
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 31, 2019 19:51:34 GMT -8
I am being serious here. In an old-growth forest, is there any way to accurately tell how old a tree is before it is cut down? Is there any way of knowing this sacred tree was 400 years old? I'm no forester but I believe you can take a core for growth rings. Then I think you very scientifically count them.
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