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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 2, 2019 22:04:34 GMT -8
PFF.COM (a website I don’t know squat about) graded their performance as one of the best in college ball this past weekend- www.pff.com/news/college-college-football-week-1-highlighting-top-offensive-linesSomebody on the Pure-Orange group posted a diagram by PFF.COM that listed Jake Luton getting their 5th highest passing grade for QBs throwing 25 passes or more this weekend, unfortunately the kid we played against had their top grade. Can’t figure out how to link it from Facebook or acces it on PFF’s website.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2019 23:43:04 GMT -8
PFF is legit, right or wrong on a given day, but the real deal in the industry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 0:13:50 GMT -8
I was wrong about the O-Line, thankfully. I was also surprised to see our QB being able to actually move. I like being wrong sometimes. My jaw genuinely dropped when Jake ran for a first down.
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Post by hometownbeaver on Sept 3, 2019 1:07:51 GMT -8
Its a nice piece, maybe we put Jefferson in and tell him to blow threw the hole these two guys make. Pierce Rinse and Repeat. No lets not see baylor till the games in hand or someone else is hurt.
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Post by biggieorange on Sept 3, 2019 7:02:26 GMT -8
PFF.COM (a website I don’t know squat about) graded their performance as one of the best in college ball this past weekend- www.pff.com/news/college-college-football-week-1-highlighting-top-offensive-linesSomebody on the Pure-Orange group posted a diagram by PFF.COM that listed Jake Luton getting their 5th highest passing grade for QBs throwing 25 passes or more this weekend, unfortunately the kid we played against had their top grade. Can’t figure out how to link it from Facebook or acces it on PFF’s website. I thought the oline was o.k. If I had to give them a score for the WHOLE game? Maybe a B-, mostly because late in the game protection broke down a lot and the holes were nonexistent. The Cowboy defense as some talent, but a lot of young guys I think they will be pretty run of the mill in the Big12.
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Post by vhalum92 on Sept 3, 2019 7:29:19 GMT -8
I agree, they did Ok.
My frustration is in the 2nd quarter we went away from the run and got denied on 3 straight pass plays. I just don't get it, the strength of this team is our depth at RB and you have to give the O line a chance to get some push at least once every 3 plays in my opinion.
I'm optimistic this O line group will continue to get better. Now hoping the D line will continue to get better.
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Post by biggieorange on Sept 3, 2019 7:39:23 GMT -8
I'll add, Luton did a heck of a job moving in the pocket and showed some real improvement there, he really surprised me a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 7:50:29 GMT -8
I'll add, Luton did a heck of a job moving in the pocket and showed some real improvement there, he really surprised me a lot. How does Luton get so many passes blocked? He must be the shortest 6'6 quarterback in college history.
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Post by alwaysorange on Sept 3, 2019 8:04:47 GMT -8
I didn't understand the game plan. Oklahoma State year in and year out has an explosive offense. As everyone knows we have a bad defense. Keep their offense and our defense off the field and run the ball over and over again. It seemed we tried to out offense them - bad move.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 8:09:47 GMT -8
I didn't understand the game plan. Oklahoma State year in and year out has an explosive offense. As everyone knows we have a bad defense. Keep their offense and our defense off the field and run the ball over and over again. It seemed we tried to out offense them - bad move. Ok state's 3-5-3 guaranteed they usually had 8 in the box and even brought the safety up for run support. Gundy even said before the game the beavs needed to run the ball heavy to have a chance so they took that away. Hodgins had a big day against single coverage but i was disappointed we didnt take more deep shots.
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Post by linuxbeav on Sept 3, 2019 8:35:06 GMT -8
I'll add, Luton did a heck of a job moving in the pocket and showed some real improvement there, he really surprised me a lot. How does Luton get so many passes blocked? He must be the shortest 6'6 quarterback in college history. Very good article on balls being batted at the line. I suspect this is part of Luton's problem. www.denverpost.com/2011/09/27/kyle-ortons-height-not-a-factor-in-batted-balls-at-the-line/TL;DR: Factors that cause batted balls are, line of scrimmage being pressed into the QB's face, QB lowering arm in throwing motion, throwing off your back foot, O-line not creating throwing lanes. I haven't reviewed the video but I suspect Luton threw off his back foot in most cases and assumed that because he is 6-6 he can get away with it.
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Post by ochobeavo on Sept 3, 2019 8:36:06 GMT -8
I didn't understand the game plan. Oklahoma State year in and year out has an explosive offense. As everyone knows we have a bad defense. Keep their offense and our defense off the field and run the ball over and over again. It seemed we tried to out offense them - bad move. I certainly get the nit at individual play call sequences, but we put up 36 pts, 26 first downs, 448 yard, time of possession was even and we kept our QB upright with no turnovers. Popsicles for the offense. Popsicles next week for the defense if anyone visibly demonstrates how outside contain works. I know it's a low bar.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Sept 3, 2019 8:47:26 GMT -8
The game was lost in a variety of ways, I won't attempt a recap. One item that I ponder: I felt like early on we felt a pressing need to try a bunch of plays using a wide variety of RBs, and a wide variety of passing plays (and I too wonder if Luton has a sidearm motion, where he releases the ball in his throwing motion, or if he is throwing to receivers feet to not get picked with the number of batted balls). We knew coming in (or after a few plays) that this game would be challenging (to say the least) - would a better strategy have been to repeat plays that "worked" (mostly running plays with 1-2 RBs) until they quit working instead of trying everything in our portfolio? We at least kept RBs fresh, but it seemed like we might have made things more interesting by keeping things less interesting.
For the sake of my sanity I have become a casual Beaver football fan working my way back - after GAG made it so surreal - so these are idle musings on my part, but I am enough of a fan to still have them.....
Go Beavers!
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 3, 2019 9:11:10 GMT -8
I'll add, Luton did a heck of a job moving in the pocket and showed some real improvement there, he really surprised me a lot. How does Luton get so many passes blocked? He must be the shortest 6'6 quarterback in college history. Gebbia did too, in limited action. Maybe look to the O-line?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 3, 2019 12:44:07 GMT -8
I didn't understand the game plan. Oklahoma State year in and year out has an explosive offense. As everyone knows we have a bad defense. Keep their offense and our defense off the field and run the ball over and over again. It seemed we tried to out offense them - bad move. I certainly get the nit at individual play call sequences, but we put up 36 pts, 26 first downs, 448 yard, time of possession was even and we kept our QB upright with no turnovers. Popsicles for the offense. Popsicles next week for the defense if anyone visibly demonstrates how outside contain works. I know it's a low bar. One game FPI rankings: Offense 57th Defense 125th (out of 130, worst among Power Five teams, eight spots behind 117th Rutgers) Special Teams 33rd
Complaining about the offense is complaining about the drapes, while the house is on fire.
Only four teams put up 36 points on Oklahoma State's defense last year and three were Oklahoma (#1 offense), West Virginia (#10 offense), and Texas Tech (#16 offense). Missouri (#18 offense) put up fewer than 36 points.
Texas A&M finished 19th in the country in scoring last year, averaging 36 points per game.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have gone bowling in 2005, 2011, 2014, and 2016.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have probably played #5 Kansas State in the 2013 Fiesta Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on Stanford in 2008, overtime would have decided who played #6 Penn State in the 2009 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #3 Michigan in the 2007 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #8 Oklahoma in the 2003 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have won the Pac-10 in 2001 and would have gone to a BCS bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #1 Michigan in the 1998 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #3 Northwestern in the 1996 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have gone undefeated 14 separate times between 1945 and 1994.
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