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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 12:54:52 GMT -8
I certainly get the nit at individual play call sequences, but we put up 36 pts, 26 first downs, 448 yard, time of possession was even and we kept our QB upright with no turnovers. Popsicles for the offense. Popsicles next week for the defense if anyone visibly demonstrates how outside contain works. I know it's a low bar. One game FPI rankings: Offense 57th
Defense 125th (out of 130, worst among Power Five teams, eight spots behind 117th Rutgers)
Special Teams 33rd
Complaining about the offense is complaining about the drapes, while the house is on fire.
Only four teams put up 36 points on Oklahoma State's defense last year and three were Oklahoma (#1 offense), West Virginia (#10 offense), and Texas Tech (#16 offense). Missouri (#18 offense) put up fewer than 36 points.
Texas A&M finished 19th in the country in scoring last year, averaging 36 points per game.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have gone bowling in 2005, 2011, 2014, and 2016.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have probably played #5 Kansas State in the 2013 Fiesta Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on Stanford in 2008, overtime would have decided who played #6 Penn State in the 2009 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #3 Michigan in the 2007 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #8 Oklahoma in the 2003 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have won the Pac-10 in 2001 and would have gone to a BCS bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #1 Michigan in the 1998 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #3 Northwestern in the 1996 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have gone undefeated 14 separate times between 1945 and 1994.here we are in the overreaction zone again...The offense could have been better and the defense could have been worse, and in fact was worse last year on a couple of occasions statistically and usually worse to the human eye. i hope the offense uses a script like the first series against ok state and then keeps the tempo up instead of lagging as it did in Game 1. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 3, 2019 13:03:51 GMT -8
One game FPI rankings: Offense 57th
Defense 125th (out of 130, worst among Power Five teams, eight spots behind 117th Rutgers)
Special Teams 33rd
Complaining about the offense is complaining about the drapes, while the house is on fire.
Only four teams put up 36 points on Oklahoma State's defense last year and three were Oklahoma (#1 offense), West Virginia (#10 offense), and Texas Tech (#16 offense). Missouri (#18 offense) put up fewer than 36 points.
Texas A&M finished 19th in the country in scoring last year, averaging 36 points per game.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have gone bowling in 2005, 2011, 2014, and 2016.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have probably played #5 Kansas State in the 2013 Fiesta Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on Stanford in 2008, overtime would have decided who played #6 Penn State in the 2009 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #3 Michigan in the 2007 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #8 Oklahoma in the 2003 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have won the Pac-10 in 2001 and would have gone to a BCS bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #1 Michigan in the 1998 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have played #3 Northwestern in the 1996 Rose Bowl.
If Oregon State had put up 36 points on offense every game, the Beavers would have gone undefeated 14 separate times between 1945 and 1994.here we are in the overreaction zone again...The offense could have been better and the defense could have been worse, and in fact was worse last year on a couple of occasions statistically and usually worse to the human eye. i hope the offense uses a script like the first series against ok state and then keeps the tempo up instead of lagging as it did in Game 1. 36 should be good for a win at least 9 out of 10 times with at least a marginal defense. (Rice had the 113th-best defense last season, giving up 36.0 ppg. Oregon State gave up 9.7 more ppg and ranked 129th out of 130.) It would be nice, if Smitty had put up more points, but 36 is great work against a Power 5 opponent. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 3, 2019 13:14:46 GMT -8
I will also say that a healthy Trevon Bradford, and Oregon State likely would have made it more of a game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 16:09:57 GMT -8
I will also say that a healthy Trevon Bradford, and Oregon State likely would have made it more of a game. have to give credit to the Offense in general for lack of miscues, few holding or offsides, TO's. Keep it up! That kind of diligence pays off eventually. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 3, 2019 16:32:38 GMT -8
I will also say that a healthy Trevon Bradford, and Oregon State likely would have made it more of a game. No... come on. Sounds like an uck excuse/proclamation! TB makes zero difference unless he's playing D and making tackles, ints. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 3, 2019 16:35:23 GMT -8
here we are in the overreaction zone again...The offense could have been better and the defense could have been worse, and in fact was worse last year on a couple of occasions statistically and usually worse to the human eye. i hope the offense uses a script like the first series against ok state and then keeps the tempo up instead of lagging as it did in Game 1. 36 should be good for a win at least 9 out of 10 times with at least a marginal defense. (Rice had the 113th-best defense last season, giving up 36.0 ppg. Oregon State gave up 9.7 more ppg and ranked 129th out of 130.) It would be nice, if Smitty had put up more points, but 36 is great work against a Power 5 opponent. That's a bogus assertion (and set of info) unless the team AVERAGES 36/game. They didn't, so a one game total means nothing in that line of reasoning! |
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Post by biggieorange on Sept 4, 2019 7:09:57 GMT -8
I'll add, Luton did a heck of a job moving in the pocket and showed some real improvement there, he really surprised me a lot. How does Luton get so many passes blocked? He must be the shortest 6'6 quarterback in college history. A combination of good play and technique on the part of the Dlinemen, and poor management of throwing lanes by OLINE. Luton being tall makes it very easy to read his eyes, I noticed that Gebbia got one blocked too. |
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Post by mbabeav on Sept 4, 2019 10:26:04 GMT -8
The game was lost in a variety of ways, I won't attempt a recap. One item that I ponder: I felt like early on we felt a pressing need to try a bunch of plays using a wide variety of RBs, and a wide variety of passing plays (and I too wonder if Luton has a sidearm motion, where he releases the ball in his throwing motion, or if he is throwing to receivers feet to not get picked with the number of batted balls). We knew coming in (or after a few plays) that this game would be challenging (to say the least) - would a better strategy have been to repeat plays that "worked" (mostly running plays with 1-2 RBs) until they quit working instead of trying everything in our portfolio? We at least kept RBs fresh, but it seemed like we might have made things more interesting by keeping things less interesting. For the sake of my sanity I have become a casual Beaver football fan working my way back - after GAG made it so surreal - so these are idle musings on my part, but I am enough of a fan to still have them..... Go Beavers! Biggest problem with opening with a team on the level of Ok State is that you don't have the ability to experiment at game speed that you might have if you open with a low end Power 5 or 1A level school. Testing secondary offense options or defensive formations isn't going to work against a school whose main mission is to crush you if they can. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 4, 2019 12:41:00 GMT -8
36 should be good for a win at least 9 out of 10 times with at least a marginal defense. (Rice had the 113th-best defense last season, giving up 36.0 ppg. Oregon State gave up 9.7 more ppg and ranked 129th out of 130.) It would be nice, if Smitty had put up more points, but 36 is great work against a Power 5 opponent. That's a bogus assertion (and set of info) unless the team AVERAGES 36/game. They didn't, so a one game total means nothing in that line of reasoning! One game represents the entire data set, so, quite the opposite, it means everything. Otherwise, we are talking about things that we saw at a practice, or how much a guy can bench. Also, how many points is Oregon State averaging per game in 2019? I will just be waiting for your response over here. Just look at the 2019 stats. Oregon State has scored more points than 80 teams after week 1 against a Power 5 opponent. If just you look at teams that played Power 5 teams, Oregon State scored the sixth most points, and first is a tie between Clemson and Oklahoma State. That was a very solid week 1 performance on offense. If they do not keep it up, I think a critical analysis might be a worthwhile endeavor. Until then, I am still drinking the orange offensive Kool-Aid. Go Beavs! |
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Post by obf on Sept 4, 2019 15:22:09 GMT -8
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 4, 2019 17:44:22 GMT -8
Honestly, know nothing about the site, but if they have those two QBs as 2 or the top 5 from the ENTIRE weekend... well, there was some fantastic QB play! And, I did not watch a lot of total minutes of other games in the Pac12, but other that Hodgins... well, to each their own! |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Sept 4, 2019 17:51:11 GMT -8
I will also say that a healthy Trevon Bradford, and Oregon State likely would have made it more of a game. No... come on. Sounds like an uck excuse/proclamation! TB makes zero difference unless he's playing D and making tackles, ints. I agree. Bradford wouldn’t make a difference. We have enough talent wide to make up. He isn’t as good as Hodgins. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 4, 2019 18:02:57 GMT -8
No... come on. Sounds like an uck excuse/proclamation! TB makes zero difference unless he's playing D and making tackles, ints. I agree. Bradford wouldn’t make a difference. We have enough talent wide to make up. He isn’t as good as Hodgins. Of course... on here wild speculations on what a "difference" means?? But, the offense was fine... better than fine really... for a first game vs upper tier P5 team. The D just can't keep putting the pressure on the offense to score every possession. Can't have a Colorado 2nd half ever game. |
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