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Post by fridaynightlights on Feb 19, 2024 21:55:51 GMT -8
I thought this was a good article discussing some of the issues OSU may face going forward as a group of 5 program. link |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 20, 2024 8:48:11 GMT -8
Interesting to hear from the G5 staff. Raising funds instead of coaching football...... knowing that the guys you develop will bail anyway.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 20, 2024 12:02:36 GMT -8
I thought this was a good article discussing some of the issues OSU may face going forward as a group of 5 program. linkWell, we are an Ag school. |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Feb 20, 2024 21:38:47 GMT -8
An interesting conversation on where college sports may be headed. link |
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Post by 93beav on Feb 21, 2024 14:02:25 GMT -8
An interesting conversation on where college sports may be headed. link What a depressing listen... NCAA will lose that House case and owe multiple billions of dollars to all past NCAA athletes. And by NCAA I mean all of the colleges. And they'll lose it out of profits that most of them never actually had. Some of that money will go to sports participants who were clearly in money-losing sports (like the person who started the case - the swimmer from ASU).If it was a $4 billion dollar payout, as antitrust judgments are 3X, then the 14,000 participants will get around $280K a piece, if my math is right, minus whatever the lawyers take. A swimmer taking home $280K for their sport, on top of the room/board/tuition, on top of actually costing the university money in a money-losing sport. Insane. Not unexpected in the world of "give me give me give me". And then signing players to contracts and unions and etc. etc. The straw breaking the camel's back is when they start letting private equity in. No offense to my fine private equity friends, but when PE gets involved in an industry, it turns to **** and no consideration is given to anything other than dredging up the last muddy penny from the operation. At this point you have, effectively, reached the equivalent of another pro-league. There has to be a way, I hope, to just eliminate all money/profit considerations and return to amateur sports. This is (still) ridiculous. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 21, 2024 14:40:16 GMT -8
An interesting conversation on where college sports may be headed. link What a depressing listen... NCAA will lose that House case and owe multiple billions of dollars to all past NCAA athletes. And by NCAA I mean all of the colleges. And they'll lose it out of profits that most of them never actually had. Some of that money will go to sports participants who were clearly in money-losing sports (like the person who started the case - the swimmer from ASU).If it was a $4 billion dollar payout, as antitrust judgments are 3X, then the 14,000 participants will get around $280K a piece, if my math is right, minus whatever the lawyers take. A swimmer taking home $280K for their sport, on top of the room/board/tuition, on top of actually costing the university money in a money-losing sport. Insane. Not unexpected in the world of "give me give me give me". And then signing players to contracts and unions and etc. etc. The straw breaking the camel's back is when they start letting private equity in. No offense to my fine private equity friends, but when PE gets involved in an industry, it turns to **** and no consideration is given to anything other than dredging up the last muddy penny from the operation. At this point you have, effectively, reached the equivalent of another pro-league. There has to be a way, I hope, to just eliminate all money/profit considerations and return to amateur sports. This is (still) ridiculous. Congress could step in any time that it wants to........... |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Feb 21, 2024 18:45:17 GMT -8
Money/Materialism and profit are the primary values that drive modern America which is why there is not a chance in hell of removing money and profit from major college football. I used to listen to sports talk radio in the car and occasionally at home, I don't listen as much anymore because so much of it is about the obscene amounts of money the players and coaches are making and then you throw in the explosion of sports gambling and sports seems to be more about money then competition. As I read somewhere recently sports gambling is in the process of swallowing football whole. One can only imagine where it will all be 20 or 30 years from now.
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Post by ee1990 on Feb 21, 2024 19:03:05 GMT -8
s%#t is sad. A part of our lives is dead.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 21, 2024 21:06:34 GMT -8
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Post by lebaneaver on Feb 21, 2024 21:40:44 GMT -8
An interesting conversation on where college sports may be headed. link What a depressing listen... NCAA will lose that House case and owe multiple billions of dollars to all past NCAA athletes. And by NCAA I mean all of the colleges. And they'll lose it out of profits that most of them never actually had. Some of that money will go to sports participants who were clearly in money-losing sports (like the person who started the case - the swimmer from ASU).If it was a $4 billion dollar payout, as antitrust judgments are 3X, then the 14,000 participants will get around $280K a piece, if my math is right, minus whatever the lawyers take. A swimmer taking home $280K for their sport, on top of the room/board/tuition, on top of actually costing the university money in a money-losing sport. Insane. Not unexpected in the world of "give me give me give me". And then signing players to contracts and unions and etc. etc. The straw breaking the camel's back is when they start letting private equity in. No offense to my fine private equity friends, but when PE gets involved in an industry, it turns to **** and no consideration is given to anything other than dredging up the last muddy penny from the operation. At this point you have, effectively, reached the equivalent of another pro-league. There has to be a way, I hope, to just eliminate all money/profit considerations and return to amateur sports. This is (still) ridiculous. I’m afraid the cat’s outta the bag and has CROSSED the Rubicon. |
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Post by kersting13 on Feb 22, 2024 9:36:55 GMT -8
And I thought it was 'Semisonic' who said that.  |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 23, 2024 8:32:56 GMT -8
One thing I appreciate about Bray is he seems to really understand where OSU is in this landscape, and he is embracing it. What else can he do in his position?
He has talked about the reality of developing players only for them to get paid by schools with more money......so his focus will be on developing players better than anyone else. Focus on really developing depth so when your top guys get poached, the relatively unknown guys are ready to step in. You keep the program relevant, and the portal will not just be a huge negative......guys know they can come to OSU to develop......and win games.
We've seen a very positive vibe so far with Bray at the healm. I think we have the right guy to navigate the stormy seas ahead.
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