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Post by ftd on Apr 4, 2024 6:16:50 GMT -8
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Post by bvrbred on Apr 4, 2024 7:12:22 GMT -8
It levels the playing field somewhat and for that reason the "haves" in the cf world are never going to go for it.
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Post by irimi on Apr 4, 2024 7:35:22 GMT -8
It levels the playing field somewhat and for that reason the "haves" in the cf world are never going to go for it. In most situations, the have nots outnumber the haves. Maybe things will change but I think too many have not schools will kill themselves trying to be a have school first. |
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Post by 93beav on Apr 4, 2024 7:56:32 GMT -8
A couple of things about this proposal...
1) The ACC board of directors met with them. The B1G and SEC both cancelled their meetings with them. It's being led by Syracuse and West Virginia, so odds of passing are low.
2) It does not do what needs to happen (and probably will never happen again) and that's provide equal revenue to all partners. They specifically say in the Athletic article that teams like Alabama or ND would receive a bigger share. If that's the case, what's the point? All we continue to do is reinforce the status quo.
On the other hand, I like the arrangement because it goes back to regional games and you're "safely" included until they decide otherwise. It takes power from the media and hands it to the colleges.
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Post by ocbeav on Apr 4, 2024 19:33:50 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 4, 2024 20:47:28 GMT -8
If anyone thinks the SEC and Big Ten are going to surrender their position of dominance in college football for anything less than an even better monetary position in this new fantasy, there's a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan they can buy from me.
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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 5, 2024 9:11:35 GMT -8
The sec and big 10 are heading for a super conference, too much money involved for that not to happen. The leftovers ( Pac?, big 12 and ACC ) will form a conference. Better solution than worshipping at the altar of a super conference hoping they throw us some scraps. Let them wreck college athletics and we can go back to a sustainable model
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Post by p8nted on Apr 5, 2024 10:56:00 GMT -8
The sec and big 10 are heading for a super conference, too much money involved for that not to happen. The leftovers ( Pac?, big 12 and ACC ) will form a conference. Better solution than worshipping at the altar of a super conference hoping they throw us some scraps. Let them wreck college athletics and we can go back to a sustainable model Yep. There will be a super conference. The question is how many teams will be in it. Guessing 40- - 48, with the SEC and Big being 20 - 24 teams each. That leaves up to 14 open slots. Que the Clemson and FSU lawsuits. They will stay NCAA with the smaller conferences but all the $$ will be in the SEC and BIG. Maybe football only but I doubt that at least initially Those 20 or so programs left in the ACC and BIG will form one conference and hang around the edges but will still be called a power league for PR reasons |
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Post by lebaneaver on Apr 5, 2024 11:52:11 GMT -8
FUBAR.
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Post by rafer on Apr 5, 2024 13:28:34 GMT -8
If anyone thinks the SEC and Big Ten are going to surrender their position of dominance in college football for anything less than an even better monetary position in this new fantasy, there's a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan they can buy from me. There's a bridge on Baltimore they can have for free, just come pick it up.!!! |
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Post by matt90 on Apr 5, 2024 13:33:24 GMT -8
I think a lot depends on how some of the class action lawsuits and organization of collective bargaining for players pan out. The SEC/B1G could be in for a hard go, particularly if there is collective bargaining for athletes/employees. There might be conferences that go bankrupt or dissolve, leaving programs twisting in the wind. If athletes are employees, that changes the dynamic significantly, particularly if wages, etc., are negotiated collectively.
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 5, 2024 14:02:27 GMT -8
I predict that if student athletes are allowed to organize and negotiate wages that a lot of sports will disappear at a lot of campuses.
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Post by seastape on Apr 5, 2024 16:11:09 GMT -8
I predict that if student athletes are allowed to organize and negotiate wages that a lot of sports will disappear at a lot of campuses. I always thought they had good wages: free tuition and fees, free room and board. Those benefits are only getting better as the cost of tuition, textbooks, and rent and food (in a lot of areas) continues to skyrocket. I'd say scholarship athletes are doing pretty well for themselves. |
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Post by NativeBeav on Apr 5, 2024 17:05:03 GMT -8
I predict that if student athletes are allowed to organize and negotiate wages that a lot of sports will disappear at a lot of campuses. This - and they should! Spoken by someone who has really enjoyed over the years in participating and watching amateur sports. |
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Post by NativeBeav on Apr 5, 2024 17:16:24 GMT -8
I predict that if student athletes are allowed to organize and negotiate wages that a lot of sports will disappear at a lot of campuses. I always thought they had good wages: free tuition and fees, free room and board. Those benefits are only getting better as the cost of tuition, textbooks, and rent and food (in a lot of areas) continues to skyrocket. I'd say scholarship athletes are doing pretty well for themselves. Exactly. Especially the small percentage that end up making it to the next level. And even if they do, the college and NCAA gave them a platform to display and perfect their game. Four years of coaching and facilities at no cost.
If they are going to get additional wages, make them claim all of their compensation, including fringe benefits, like tuition, room, board, books plus wages. Have them pay taxes in every state they play a game. Can you image traitor team players having to pay taxes and file returns in Michigan, Ohio, Alabama, etc? If it is good enough for the NFL/ NBA, why not?
Oh, and before I hear the lame argument that if athletes have to claim all compensation and fringe benefits and pay taxes on it, that all students should be required to claim scholarship benefits as taxable income, consider this - academic scholarships are more closely related to a gift, whereas an athletic scholarship is more closely related to "pay to play" - the two are vastly different. How many academic scholarship recipients have been awarded NIL contracts?
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