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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 22, 2021 16:20:43 GMT -8
First, hats off to WT for how he’s got this team playing. I certainly never saw it coming, especially after that terrible stretch they had. This team has come together and is having fun.
Second, I just can’t see WT being in huge demand any time soon. Maybe I’m wrong, but I just don’t see him becoming a coach du jour. Now certainly that could change with a couple more seasons like this one, but not sure where he’d fit better in a top b-ball conference.
As to recruiting, I’m not sure how much of a boost I see this run having. What makes me hopeful is that I think we were already seeing an uptick or at least a different kind of emphasis. Probably not going to see a run of 5* or even high 4* recruits. But if WT can bring the ceiling up some and the floor up quite a bit that would mean better overall talent with which to work.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 22, 2021 16:39:22 GMT -8
My guess is that Tinkle is more highly thought of as a coach by others in the NCAA basketball world than by many many of our local fanbase. I wouldn't be surprised by him getting some quiet inquiries after the season ends.
Tinkle did a heck of a job with an expectedly BAD team his first two years, and frankly not all that badly the last 3 years despite fan expectations. This year he has eclipsed pretty much all expectations. OSU has supposedly had a reputation in the business as being a tough coaching job for both football and basketball, when a coach does well, others notice.
I expect a re-negotiation is coming. Through the end of the 24/25, maybe even 25/26 season won't surprise me at all.
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Post by atownbeaver on Mar 22, 2021 21:10:23 GMT -8
My guess is that Tinkle is more highly thought of as a coach by others in the NCAA basketball world than by many many of our local fanbase. I wouldn't be surprised by him getting some quiet inquiries after the season ends. Tinkle did a heck of a job with an expectedly BAD team his first two years, and frankly not all that badly the last 3 years despite fan expectations. This year he has eclipsed pretty much all expectations. OSU has supposedly had a reputation in the business as being a tough coaching job for both football and basketball, when a coach does well, others notice. I expect a re-negotiation is coming. Through the end of the 24/25, maybe even 25/26 season won't surprise me at all. He has been our best coach in the last 30 years and it isn't even close. The question for me was if he could push past being a .500 conference team and make post season noise. I think this season showed obviously he can coach a team up there. I don't think getting talent to Corvallis has ever been Tinkle's issue, I think getting consistent play week in and out has been. I am hoping whatever clicked about 3 weeks ago is here to stay. Next year we lose Thompson, Reichle and Silva, big hit, but return Lucas, Hunt, Alatishe, Calloo, Tucker, Andela, Silver... I wonder if this chemistry continues. One of the biggest changes from this season is bench minutes. I know Hunt getting banged up influenced it a big, but we have 4 bench players with significant minutes. But even against Tenn, we had 3 with 14 minutes. Getting these guys minutes is gonna help next year a ton |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 22, 2021 21:22:34 GMT -8
My guess is that Tinkle is more highly thought of as a coach by others in the NCAA basketball world than by many many of our local fanbase. I wouldn't be surprised by him getting some quiet inquiries after the season ends. Tinkle did a heck of a job with an expectedly BAD team his first two years, and frankly not all that badly the last 3 years despite fan expectations. This year he has eclipsed pretty much all expectations. OSU has supposedly had a reputation in the business as being a tough coaching job for both football and basketball, when a coach does well, others notice. I expect a re-negotiation is coming. Through the end of the 24/25, maybe even 25/26 season won't surprise me at all. He has been our best coach in the last 30 years and it isn't even close. The question for me was if he could push past being a .500 conference team and make post season noise. I think this season showed obviously he can coach a team up there. I don't think getting talent to Corvallis has ever been Tinkle's issue, I think getting consistent play week in and out has been. I am hoping whatever clicked about 3 weeks ago is here to stay. Next year we lose Thompson, Reichle and Silva, big hit, but return Lucas, Hunt, Alatishe, Calloo, Tucker, Andela, Silver... I wonder if this chemistry continues. One of the biggest changes from this season is bench minutes. I know Hunt getting banged up influenced it a big, but we have 4 bench players with significant minutes. But even against Tenn, we had 3 with 14 minutes. Getting these guys minutes is gonna help next year a ton the thing is that those guys can and probably will come back next year. |
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Post by beav74 on Mar 22, 2021 21:24:13 GMT -8
Silva has already indicated that he is returning for his COVID red shirt year.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 22, 2021 21:41:04 GMT -8
Silva returning is huge, even if he's splitting time with anotherplayer or two underneath. 35-40 years ago he would have been considered to be a very good 5 recruit, these days there's some monster athletes at that position.
I've liked his offensive game since last year. He is becoming a very solid player in other areas and seems to be improving continuously. 12 rebounds and 4 blocks against only 3 fouls yesterday was huge. I can't wait to see him develop further.
I'd be thrilled to see Zach and Ethan return. They're both good students so maybe the possibility of getting a masters largely or fully taken care of might keep them here for next year. You never know.
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 22, 2021 22:03:45 GMT -8
I'd be shocked if many programs weren't interested in WT now; may not yet major step-up programs, but definitely some good ones. Before this season, he might have been a tough sell to the alumni, but now the resume is solid; getting 2 trips to the dance in 7 years, one going at least to the sweet 16 - particularly given nobody else has come close since RM at OSU. His success at Montana make for a proven long track record of success. Let's put it this way - if he had been at WSU the last 7 years, many here would be drooling over him as a prospect.
It probably would need to be a pretty compelling offer/situation for him to leave, and I suspect it would need to be significantly more than just a big pay raise, but his phone surely is ringing. The really good news for OSU though is if he does leave, the job should be way more attractive than it has been for a long time.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Mar 22, 2021 22:27:07 GMT -8
OSU needs to extend WT to remain competitive and keep him here. That's just a fact in the D1 coaching climate. After a sweet 16 season (and maybe more), only leaving 2 years on his contract would essentially be hanging a large "VACANT" sign over the head coaching position. Maybe COVID has changed that somewhat, but if he doesn't get a significant extension after this season, then if I'm WT, I would sure as hell be looking to go to elsewhere.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 23, 2021 5:09:27 GMT -8
OSU needs to extend WT to remain competitive and keep him here. That's just a fact in the D1 coaching climate. After a sweet 16 season (and maybe more), only leaving 2 years on his contract would essentially be hanging a large "VACANT" sign over the head coaching position. Maybe COVID has changed that somewhat, but if he doesn't get a significant extension after this season, then if I'm WT, I would sure as hell be looking to go to elsewhere. He has 3 years left on his contract due to the automatic extension for making the tourney. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 23, 2021 9:31:08 GMT -8
OSU needs to extend WT to remain competitive and keep him here. That's just a fact in the D1 coaching climate. After a sweet 16 season (and maybe more), only leaving 2 years on his contract would essentially be hanging a large "VACANT" sign over the head coaching position. Maybe COVID has changed that somewhat, but if he doesn't get a significant extension after this season, then if I'm WT, I would sure as hell be looking to go to elsewhere. He has 3 years left on his contract due to the automatic extension for making the tourney. So, no need for a longer extension. I agree with you. Maybe pay out half of the bonus he forgave. He can take care of the extension on his own by coaching successfully. Which is as it should be. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 23, 2021 9:32:51 GMT -8
He has 3 years left on his contract due to the automatic extension for making the tourney. So, no need for a longer extension. I agree with you. Maybe pay out half of the bonus he forgave. He can take care of the extension on his own by coaching successfully. Which is as it should be. I would consider giving him one more and taking it to 4. They are probably going to renegotiate the salary after this run anyway, so no need to pay out the bonus. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 23, 2021 9:39:29 GMT -8
I would rather wait to see what happens next year. Happy for what he's done over the past three weeks but I'd like to see if it continues next year before I give him more years and increase the pay.
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 23, 2021 9:51:18 GMT -8
We'll extend it to five - and we should. Anything less would be a "no-confidence" vote that would be used against us in recruiting.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 23, 2021 9:55:55 GMT -8
I would rather wait to see what happens next year. Happy for what he's done over the past three weeks but I'd like to see if it continues next year before I give him more years and increase the pay. If they don't renegotiate this year I'd expect a fairly high chance of him moving on. How could you expect him to recruit? Some opposing coaches would use the "University not trusting him enough to give him 4 years" as a recruiting weapon. It'd probably affect recruiting a new coach as well, unless an up-and-comer looking to build a resume and move on is our only target. |
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 23, 2021 10:10:16 GMT -8
Pay the man if you believe in him. I too thought next year was big,but he has done enough on this run to warrant a five year deal. Either you believe in him or you don't. He doesn't need to prove anything more to me. Who are we going to get any better? He is well respected amongst his peers and the people in the business.
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