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Post by hottubbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 13:21:51 GMT -8
Transfer Portal Power Activated: What's the net outcome for OSU Football, is it; Positive, Negative, Neutral, or to soon to tell?
After D.J. transferred in; "transfer portal is great". After he transferred out: "transfer portal sucks and is ruining college football" LOL
I'm just having fun with this topic and see both sides of it's doors (incoming and outgoing). We did pull quite a few this last class though:
DJ Wesolak
6-3 / 236
0.8500 (T)
0.9338 (HS)
Edge
Immediate
Missouri
Oregon State
Darrius Clemons
6-3 / 212
0.8800 (T)
0.9422 (HS)
WR
Immediate
Michigan
Oregon State
Tevita Pome'e
6-3 / 318
0.8600 (T)
0.8753 (HS)
DL
Immediate
Oregon
Oregon State
Kobe Singleton
5-11 / 185
0.8900 (T)
0.8000 (HS)
CB
Immediate
Liberty
Oregon State
Jam Griffin
5-9 / 210
0.8500 (T)
0.8956 (HS)
RB
Immediate
Ole Miss
Oregon State
Sai Vadrawale III
6-0 / 180
0.8600 (T)
0.8564 (HS)
CB
Immediate
California
Oregon State
Tygee Hill
6-3 / 288
0.8600 (T)
0.8826 (HS)
DL
Immediate
LSU
Oregon State
Gabarri Johnson
5-10 / 193
0.8700 (T)
0.8978 (HS)
QB
Immediate
Missouri
Oregon State
Gevani McCoy 6-2 / 185
0.8700 (T)
N/A (HS)
QB
Immediate
Idaho
Oregon State
Gerad Christian-Lichtenhan
6-10 / 315
0.8600 (T)
0.8189 (HS)
OT
Immediate
Colorado
Oregon State
Mason White
6-1 / 185
0.8500 (T)
0.8797 (HS)
CB
Immediate
TCU
Oregon State
Nick Norris
6-5 / 269
0.8400 (T)
N/A (HS)
Edge
Immediate
Northern Colorado
Oregon State
Anthony Hankerson
5-9 / 195
0.8800 (T)
0.8737 (HS)
RB
Immediate
Colorado
Oregon State
Van Wells
6-2 / 290
0.8600 (T)
0.8500 (HS)
IOL
Immediate
Colorado
Oregon State
SIGNED
Breakdown
BY STATE
California (4)
Oregon (4)
Texas (2)
Washington (2)
Florida (1)
Idaho (1)
Kansas (1)
New Hampshire (1)
Utah (1)
BY POSITION
Quarterback (1)
Running Back (2)
Receiver (2)
Offensive Line (3)
Defensive Line (2)
Linebacker (3)
Defensive Back (3)
Special Teams (1)
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 14:06:55 GMT -8
It's both. We are more or less regulated to a farm school/training program unless a player wants to stay. Our best players will always have options. We are also a great spot to land for a player that couldn't land playing time at a program or is a talent in a lower division looking for more opportunity.
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Post by bill82 on Apr 10, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -8
It's both. We are more or less regulated to a farm school/training program unless a player wants to stay. Our best players will always have options. We are also a great spot to land for a player that couldn't land playing time at a program or is a talent in a lower division looking for more opportunity. There are 15-25 or so programs that are the "major league." Everyone else is a farm team. The hope for everyone outside the top 15-25 is to be a Triple A team.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 10, 2024 15:40:53 GMT -8
It's both. We are more or less regulated to a farm school/training program unless a player wants to stay. Our best players will always have options. We are also a great spot to land for a player that couldn't land playing time at a program or is a talent in a lower division looking for more opportunity. There are 15-25 or so programs that are the "major league." Everyone else is a farm team. The hope for everyone outside the top 15-25 is to be a Triple A team. And really, has anything changed? Playing field is a bit different, but it's basically the same "haves" and just dividing up more $. While now having more "legitimate" methods to add/buy players.
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 10, 2024 15:51:23 GMT -8
We will be like AA in the major leagues because we are not in a power conference. All other power league teams are either equivalent to AAA or major leagues
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Post by bill82 on Apr 10, 2024 15:56:33 GMT -8
We will be like AA in the major leagues because we are not in a power conference. All other power league teams are either equivalent to AAA or major leagues We can beat Cal and Purdue this year. And probably every year.
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Post by hottubbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 16:15:19 GMT -8
We will be like AA in the major leagues because we are not in a power conference. All other power league teams are either equivalent to AAA or major leagues We were in a "power conference" during the GAg years, I suspect the next two years will be far superior. What do you think? The conference didn't seem to be a big help in the 30 years preceding MR 1 as I recall either.
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Post by atownbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 16:19:00 GMT -8
It giveth, and it taketh away...
Such is life.
I will say, I am having a much harder time rooting for these kids that are demanding houses and new cars and s%#t every term.
I paid $65,000 to OSU for my BS and MPH. thousands and thousands of kids pay a lot for the priveledge of being at OSU. I get the sheer dollars in college football and the inequity of it.
Seems to me even in the NIL deal, it still really ain't the kids getting the good deal. still feels like only an elite few are making anything end everyone else is exploited.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 16:23:00 GMT -8
There are 15-25 or so programs that are the "major league." Everyone else is a farm team. The hope for everyone outside the top 15-25 is to be a Triple A team. And really, has anything changed? Playing field is a bit different, but it's basically the same "haves" and just dividing up more $. While now having more "legitimate" methods to add/buy players. Uhh not really no. The only change is it's now much easier to consolidate high school and current D1/D2 talent. The system used to have more risk for schools and players with things like sitting out years. The time investment and commitment by both was much more serious, now even playing for a full season is more of a suggestion.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 16:24:25 GMT -8
It giveth, and it taketh away... Such is life. I will say, I am having a much harder time rooting for these kids that are demanding houses and new cars and s%#t every term. I paid $65,000 to OSU for my BS and MPH. thousands and thousands of kids pay a lot for the priveledge of being at OSU. I get the sheer dollars in college football and the inequity of it. Seems to me even in the NIL deal, it still really ain't the kids getting the good deal. still feels like only an elite few are making anything end everyone else is exploited. Yes, if there's no guard rails on capitalism the best exploiters always win. We are in the animal farm stage of CFB.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 10, 2024 16:24:53 GMT -8
We will be like AA in the major leagues because we are not in a power conference. All other power league teams are either equivalent to AAA or major leagues We can beat Cal and Purdue this year. And probably every year. Depending on the # that want to play the "super conference" game, OSU can be in the top tier of the next group. The portal works in several ways. First, OSU will gain cast-offs from the "elite". While maybe losing some of the developed talent, OSU may gain is some HS talent. For every portal loss it's one less roster spot/schollie at an elite school. The bottom line to me is nothing really changes in the "order" of things. What did change is revenue. But, even if a worst case occurred in a MWC merger there would be media $. Not like we'd like, but it'd put us on par with those were now competing against. OSU needs revenue to sustain programs, but P4 $ was never going to make OSU "belong" in the "haves" group. And, the keeping up with the Jones' is a waste of time, energy, and resources.
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 16:39:33 GMT -8
We will be like AA in the major leagues because we are not in a power conference. All other power league teams are either equivalent to AAA or major leagues We can beat Cal and Purdue this year. And probably every year. Definitely in ‘67! Bring on #1!!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 10, 2024 16:44:02 GMT -8
It giveth, and it taketh away... Such is life. I will say, I am having a much harder time rooting for these kids that are demanding houses and new cars and s%#t every term. I paid $65,000 to OSU for my BS and MPH. thousands and thousands of kids pay a lot for the priveledge of being at OSU. I get the sheer dollars in college football and the inequity of it. Seems to me even in the NIL deal, it still really ain't the kids getting the good deal. still feels like only an elite few are making anything end everyone else is exploited. Yes, if there's no guard rails on capitalism the best exploiters always win. We are in the animal farm stage of CFB. Congratulations on winning the Zapp Brannigan Mixed Metaphor Award of the Day! The first part of your statement is generally untrue. If there is no red tape, the best product usually wins. And Animal Farm is about Communism; you have officially lost me.
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Post by irimi on Apr 10, 2024 17:10:50 GMT -8
I think this system gives more advantages to the players than any other sports set up. No commitments necessary. Athletes move as they see fit.
I think things need to be tightened up a bit.
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Post by atownbeaver on Apr 10, 2024 17:39:37 GMT -8
Yes, if there's no guard rails on capitalism the best exploiters always win. We are in the animal farm stage of CFB. Congratulations on winning the Zapp Brannigan Mixed Metaphor Award of the Day! The first part of your statement is generally untrue. If there is no red tape, the best product usually wins. And Animal Farm is about Communism; you have officially lost me. The end point of capitalism without guardrails is always and will always be a monopoly. 100% of the time, and without fail. Animal Farm is a critique of communism, specifically Joseph Stalin. However, I don't think the metaphor is all that mixed. We are in the stage of "re-writing the rules to fit our world view." De-volving from our once held beliefs (seven commandments, if you will) and adapting new ones in a manner that benefits the few, (snowball and napoleon). All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. There doesn't have to be an economic system fit for the metaphor to work. That and I would argue an oligarchy is an oligarchy, regardless of the window dressings of the political system of the home country. There are Oligarchs here in America, and there were Oligarchs in Stalin's brutal regime.
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