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Post by beaveragain on Jun 22, 2024 20:40:35 GMT -8
rgeorge writes: "Possible... but they left seeking something "else" that wasn't at OSU, so unlikely they suddenly find it back at OSU." ------- That's roughly what I was getting at. Rueck says some schools (NIL) don't live up to their promises. So if a player leaves OSU because of promises that are never fulfilled, i.e. the player was misled or lied to, then what are the chances that player might come back to OSU? I'm not saying it's likely. But it certainly seems like a believable scenario. In the adult world: Mary likes her job but leaves because a competitor promises her a big salary. It never materializes as promised, so Mary says I'll see if my old job is still available. I liked my boss, maybe he'll take me back. Hypothetical, for sure. But everything is until it happens. GO BEAVS!! I doubt that will happen very often at all. None of them are going to want to basically admit they were wrong when they left the first time. Now now, it has happened. But since they came back as a graduate student I suspect that it was a professor that they came back for, and not a coach. Yeah, happened once.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jun 22, 2024 21:50:52 GMT -8
I also think one can do a bit of inference from the players who have reposted the X transfer announcements of landing spots of fellow players and those who have not that some fractures may have occurred in the "family". Along with the fact that NO players created a package deal situation to a school (other than Rae and Asst.) even though they allegedly loved playing together and were BFFs. I would not be surprised if the coaching staff also feel a bit burned.....that said, we would probably with open arms take back several of the Elite 8 Run(aways) based on their sheer talent, but I highly doubt any of them are headed back this way, even if they got scammed by their new schools. At that point, aren't we still in the WCC - the main cause of their departure anyway?
Go Beavers!
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Post by grayman on Jun 22, 2024 22:52:53 GMT -8
I've posted numerous articles that give actual NIL $ and number of deals versus the online rumors and fabrications. SR again points out much of it is pure BS and it is out of control. Just thinking out loud here..... If what Rueck says is correct, that is: many players who exited thru the portal are finding that the school they chose does not live up to its NIL promises - what then are the chances that some of the players who left OSU this year might end up back in Corvallis next year? GO BEAVS!! None. They don't want to play in the WCC
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jun 22, 2024 22:55:11 GMT -8
I am sure there are cases of programs not living up to their NIL promises. But I would think programs would be careful to not renege on their NIL commitments. If word gets out that they don't live up to their financial obligations, it will likely damage their ability to recruit. Word travels fast and other teams would be using it to negative recruit against you.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 23, 2024 13:35:40 GMT -8
I can't imagine how frustrating it is to Ruesk, knowing they had a juggernaut next season.
I think he's gone after next season........unless, somehow, there is a clear path to power 4.
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Post by skyrider on Jun 23, 2024 13:44:18 GMT -8
flyfishinbeav,
Perhaps he might instead to honor his contract and his commitment to the University and stay.
How amazing and refreshing would that be in this era of "money is everything"?
Go Beavs!
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Post by beaveragain on Jun 23, 2024 14:09:32 GMT -8
flyfishinbeav, Perhaps he might instead to honor his contract and his commitment to the University and stay. How amazing and refreshing would that be in this era of "money is everything"? Go Beavs! Scott is making 1 mill/year. In what way do you see him sacrificing moola? Scott wants to compete at the highest level. He believes there is a cap on what he can accomplish in the WCC. I think he's wrong as has been shown in the men's game. But that's not pertinent to where Scott wants to coach.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 23, 2024 17:52:36 GMT -8
I can't imagine how frustrating it is to Ruesk, knowing they had a juggernaut next season. I think he's gone after next season........unless, somehow, there is a clear path to power 4. Juggernaut? I love how all the posters think that it’s so easy to just waltz into an Elite 8 or a Final 4. No guarantee that they would have even made it as far as they did this year. The Elite teams were all adding strong players. Iowa is the only one that may regress.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 23, 2024 19:22:33 GMT -8
I can't imagine how frustrating it is to Ruesk, knowing they had a juggernaut next season. I think he's gone after next season........unless, somehow, there is a clear path to power 4. Juggernaut? I love how all the posters think that it’s so easy to just waltz into an Elite 8 or a Final 4. No guarantee that they would have even made it as far as they did this year. The Elite teams were all adding strong players. Iowa is the only one that may regress. Oh come on Smails. Of course we don't know how far they would've gone. They would've been a really good team, though. Not debatable.....but I'm sure you'll find a way to argue anyway.
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Post by beaveragain on Jun 23, 2024 19:33:36 GMT -8
I can't imagine how frustrating it is to Ruesk, knowing they had a juggernaut next season. I think he's gone after next season........unless, somehow, there is a clear path to power 4. Juggernaut? I love how all the posters think that it’s so easy to just waltz into an Elite 8 or a Final 4. No guarantee that they would have even made it as far as they did this year. The Elite teams were all adding strong players. Iowa is the only one that may regress. I love how all you naysayers insist they would have been terrible next year and how they would get worse while everyone else got better. Never too late to naysay. Are the Beav's going to be the worst team in the WCC? Will badly run community colleges beat their behinds? Please tell us, how bad will they be???
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 23, 2024 20:10:10 GMT -8
I can't imagine how frustrating it is to Ruesk, knowing they had a juggernaut next season. I think he's gone after next season........unless, somehow, there is a clear path to power 4. Juggernaut? I love how all the posters think that it’s so easy to just waltz into an Elite 8 or a Final 4. No guarantee that they would have even made it as far as they did this year. The Elite teams were all adding strong players. Iowa is the only one that may regress. These guys were big in Seattle in the 80's Attachments:
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 23, 2024 20:11:17 GMT -8
Juggernaut? I love how all the posters think that it’s so easy to just waltz into an Elite 8 or a Final 4. No guarantee that they would have even made it as far as they did this year. The Elite teams were all adding strong players. Iowa is the only one that may regress. I love how all you naysayers insist they would have been terrible next year and how they would get worse while everyone else got better. Never too late to naysay. Are the Beav's going to be the worst team in the WCC? Will badly run community colleges beat their behinds? Please tell us, how bad will they be??? No where did he come anywhere within a galaxy of saying they would be terrible. He did say there certainly was no easy path to the Elite 8 or the Final 4. Pretty damn fair assessment, IMHO. Except for a handful of programs - of which we have never been one - simply getting to the 32 or the 16 is an accomplishment in itself. An Elite 8 or a FF is beyond reasonable expectations almost every season.
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Post by grayman on Jun 23, 2024 21:08:09 GMT -8
Rueck has gotten OSU to the tournament eight times. In those eight appearances, Rueck led the Beavers to the Sweet 16 five times and the Elite Eight three times and to the Final Four once. That's a pretty high batting average.
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Post by escott58 on Jun 24, 2024 6:43:24 GMT -8
Rueck has gotten OSU to the tournament eight times. In those eight appearances, Rueck led the Beavers to the Sweet 16 five times and the Elite Eight three times and to the Final Four once. That's a pretty high batting average. Can you clarify? Seems to add up to 9
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Post by beaveragain on Jun 24, 2024 8:48:30 GMT -8
Rueck has gotten OSU to the tournament eight times. In those eight appearances, Rueck led the Beavers to the Sweet 16 five times and the Elite Eight three times and to the Final Four once. That's a pretty high batting average. Can you clarify? Seems to add up to 9 Drink your coffee and try again.
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