2ndGenBeaver
Sophomore
Posts: 1,796
Grad Year: 1991 (MS/CS) 1999 (PhD/CS)
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Aug 22, 2024 8:59:23 GMT -8
The last time we had 2 players with the same number on the field, it nullified a huge momentum changing turnover and altered the course of the game. That is all my PTSD allows me to remember......
Go Beavers!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 22, 2024 9:48:55 GMT -8
Been reading about Boise.....they are everyone's darling to make the CFP from G5. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. They fired Avalos after 10 games last season, and hired their DC in Danielson. Won the MW, and lost Fucla in a bowl.
Sure wish this one was at Reser! Hopefully, we are a well oiled machine by then......and hopefully 10-1! The talking heads aren't giving us much love at all. Gotta go out and earn it!
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 22, 2024 12:40:56 GMT -8
Apparently, we reload with a buncha dudes who wear #55 We’re very big on A gap responsibility!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 22, 2024 12:43:12 GMT -8
The last time we had 2 players with the same number on the field, it nullified a huge momentum changing turnover and altered the course of the game. That is all my PTSD allows me to remember...... Go Beavers! 2021 Utah is the one that jumps into my head. It nullified the second blocked punt, which technically is not a turnover. Utah missed the subsequent field goal, and Oregon State drove it down for a touchdown. If anything, the penalty helped alter the course of the game for the better, if being much less spectacular than a blocked punt.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 22, 2024 12:52:18 GMT -8
Apparently, we reload with a buncha dudes who wear #55 Reminds me of the end of the "Three Amigos!"
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Post by krmamakr on Aug 22, 2024 16:34:29 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 22, 2024 17:57:23 GMT -8
This Halloween, I hope that only one line in the Mountain West section is still red. Oregon State last played UNLV in 2009. Since 2009, Oregon State has played Boise State and Hawai'i four times, San Diego State thrice, San Jose State twice, and Colorado State, Nevada, Utah State, and Fresno once. The Beavs played three of the four teams that it has played the most often in the past 15 years, three of the five teams that the Beavs played once in the past 15 years, and Air Force. It is kind of too bad that the Beavs are not playing their two biggest historical Mountain West rivals in Fresno and Hawai'i. But the Beavs play their next four most-played rivals in Boise, San Jose State, San Diego State, and UNLV. The Beavs also play their oldest Mountain West rival in Nevada, a series that started in 1903 (and then was not played again for 95 years). Oregon State's final two games are against the two teams that the Beavs have played the least in Air Force and Colorado State.
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 22, 2024 18:07:16 GMT -8
Been reading about Boise.....they are everyone's darling to make the CFP from G5. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. They fired Avalos after 10 games last season, and hired their DC in Danielson. Won the MW, and lost Fucla in a bowl. Sure wish this one was at Reser! Hopefully, we are a well oiled machine by then......and hopefully 10-1! The talking heads aren't giving us much love at all. Gotta go out and earn it!^this^ This is the story, boys and girls, of why we are now part of the Pac2, instead of being invited to another power conference. The disrespect has never stopped, even after we won the Fiesta Bowl, and had some other good showings in bowls, and winning seasons since 2000. We have been a whisker away from the Rose Bowl several times in the past 24 years. Many of the power 4 members are just plain scared to play us!
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Post by krmamakr on Aug 22, 2024 19:22:01 GMT -8
Been reading about Boise.....they are everyone's darling to make the CFP from G5. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. They fired Avalos after 10 games last season, and hired their DC in Danielson. Won the MW, and lost Fucla in a bowl. Sure wish this one was at Reser! Hopefully, we are a well oiled machine by then......and hopefully 10-1! The talking heads aren't giving us much love at all. Gotta go out and earn it! A lot of the 'experts, have either Boise St or Liberty as their pick for the G5 pick. And for more than a decade, they're once again favorites to win the MW. Right now, it seems like a really tough ask, to go win on the Smurf Turf... but if the Beavers are 10-1, when we break Thanksgiving dinner :-) I'll be loving our chances... As you say, gotta go out and earn it. -- The fact that the 5* QB transfer from USC (Malachi Nelson) didn't win Boise St. QB competion is interesting...
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 22, 2024 19:43:53 GMT -8
The lack of respect is well earned, orange goggles, continued support, or not.
Look at the records vs P4 conferences... vs our other Pac2 member.
Then... consider of OSU's meager 569 wins almost 28% are vs non FBS teams.
Some may not like the facts, but despite some big wins OSU has played G5 level ball for some time. Last I saw #109 of 134 since 2000 in W/L %.
Times are, and will, be changing. OSU can fight an uphill, no way to win, battle and be a Vandy, Illinois, etc etc etc in some super conference. Or, be BSU in a division/conference they can compete and win consistently in.
Football rules the AD $. No idea if somehow football only stuff happens, but I'd doubt it with all the extra conference issues that go along with separation of sports.
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Post by richard44 on Aug 22, 2024 21:46:12 GMT -8
The more I hear about the qb situation, the less confident I am about this team reaching its full potential this year. It just sounds like the qb play has been nothing but underwhelming. We have seen this before (look at the years from Mannion to Luton). Underwhelming qb play seriously limits football success in today’s football. I’m hoping our defense and run game are as advertised, because I’m hoping to get more 2022 than we do the years between Mannion and Luton when it comes to win/loss results.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Btw, I’m predicting 7 wins this year (not a bad year at all considering the absolute mess we had to face). Wins include Idaho State, San Diego State, Purdue, Colorado state, Nevada, UNLV, and San Jose State.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 22, 2024 23:14:29 GMT -8
The lack of respect is well earned, orange goggles, continued support, or not. Look at the records vs P4 conferences... vs our other Pac2 member. Then... consider of OSU's meager 569 wins almost 28% are vs non FBS teams. Some may not like the facts, but despite some big wins OSU has played G5 level ball for some time. Last I saw #109 of 134 since 2000 in W/L %. Times are, and will, be changing. OSU can fight an uphill, no way to win, battle and be a Vandy, Illinois, etc etc etc in some super conference. Or, be BSU in a division/conference they can compete and win consistently in. Football rules the AD $. No idea if somehow football only stuff happens, but I'd doubt it with all the extra conference issues that go along with separation of sports. In order to make Oregon State 109 of 134, you would have to go back to 1980. Oregon State is 110 of 131 teams, since 2014 (i.e. the last decade).
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 22, 2024 23:25:28 GMT -8
I can see a 10-1 start. We beat SDSU, SJSU and CAL last year. Obviously we're not losing to Idaho State. Purdue sucks, CSU sucks, Nevada sucks, UNLV is at home, AFA we should be able to out talent, WSU is at home and we only lost by 3 in Pullman last year.
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Post by bvrbred on Aug 23, 2024 7:07:41 GMT -8
The more I hear about the qb situation, the less confident I am about this team reaching its full potential this year. It just sounds like the qb play has been nothing but underwhelming. We have seen this before (look at the years from Mannion to Luton). Underwhelming qb play seriously limits football success in today’s football. I’m hoping our defense and run game are as advertised, because I’m hoping to get more 2022 than we do the years between Mannion and Luton when it comes to win/loss results. Anyone else feel the same way? Btw, I’m predicting 7 wins this year (not a bad year at all considering the absolute mess we had to face). Wins include Idaho State, San Diego State, Purdue, Colorado state, Nevada, UNLV, and San Jose State. I suspect you're right about the QB situation determining how good we can get this year. Mediocre QB play means a win floor of roughly 7, as you say. The BeaversEdge guys, who have been watching practice, had this to say (paraphrased) about the QBs: Ben: Some days looks good. Other days looks bad, throwing picks. Best of the three at sustaining drives. McCoy: Really doesn't have it. Had nothing good to say about him as a QB at this level of play. I had the same impression of him watching highlight vids of the Spring game. Seemed like another Garretson; fair run, fair pass, not really great at either. The walk on, Montiel, was better at fitting the ball into windows. Johnson: Most talented of the three, especially as a runner. Has only had about five series with the first team. Tendency to tuck and run too soon. Other tidbits: All three tend to be late getting the ball there on timing routes. Interestingly, as to Johnson, one of the journalists asked Gundy about three/four weeks ago if he didn't think it was time for Johnson to get more first team reps. Gundy got kind of testy, saying he called them like he saw them or words to that effect. Starting to look like they were giving the other two more needed developmental time (Johnson had missed Spring ball and had more ground to make up) and it hasn't worked out. Yet.
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Post by grayman on Aug 23, 2024 10:56:04 GMT -8
The lack of respect is well earned, orange goggles, continued support, or not. Look at the records vs P4 conferences... vs our other Pac2 member. Then... consider of OSU's meager 569 wins almost 28% are vs non FBS teams. Some may not like the facts, but despite some big wins OSU has played G5 level ball for some time. Last I saw #109 of 134 since 2000 in W/L %. Times are, and will, be changing. OSU can fight an uphill, no way to win, battle and be a Vandy, Illinois, etc etc etc in some super conference. Or, be BSU in a division/conference they can compete and win consistently in. Football rules the AD $. No idea if somehow football only stuff happens, but I'd doubt it with all the extra conference issues that go along with separation of sports. In order to make Oregon State 109 of 134, you would have to go back to 1980. Oregon State is 110 of 131 teams, since 2014 (i.e. the last decade). I don't really agree that Oregon State has a lack of respect as far as football is concerned. I hear a lot of national people say positive things about the program. As far as this season, I think some are focusing way more on what OSU lost and not enough on what OSU has and how that matches up with its opponents. I would agree that OSU was a "G5 level" program from 1972-1997. Not at all before then and definitely not after. There were three main factors involved during that time. Lack of resources (to an extreme level in some areas), poor coaching hires and (the biggest) lack of support from the administration. The latter has changed significantly after MacVicar and Byrne, though it varies some. The facilities situation began to improve under Risser and has continued. The hiring of Mike Riley (the first time) pulled the program out of the bottom of the barrel. Then a home run in Erickson and really strong work by Riley version 2. The failure of Gary Andersen was an anomaly during this time in that GA was the failure, not the program itself. In comes Jonathan Smith and turns it back around. The program not only has been power level but has been consistently successful at that level under every coach from Riley to Smith with the exception of GAG. Given an equal opportunity (i.e. membership in a power conference) Oregon State is absolutely capable of maintaining football success at the power level. And OSU is 150-143 from 2000-present. Interesting that 39 of those losses came in four-season span (2015-18). Three GA seasons and Smith's first season after the debacle. Vanderbilt was 96-191 during the same time frame. OSU has way more in common with Kansas State, Oklahoma State and Iowa State as far as making athletics work in a power conference.
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