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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Oct 29, 2016 22:27:44 GMT -8
When they know you're running and it's one yard, you're just making it harder by putting him so far behind the line. Seahawks used to do that w lynch and even he had a rough time w that crappy set up.
Very costly mistake doing that twice late in the game and getting stuffed
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Post by fishinmachine on Oct 29, 2016 23:25:14 GMT -8
I agree.
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Post by jimbeav on Oct 29, 2016 23:49:17 GMT -8
Been driving me nuts for a while now. I don't care what your offensive philosophy is, I don't care what your base formation packages are...every coach should have a power set from under center. No excuse not to...
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Post by snohobeav on Oct 30, 2016 0:43:29 GMT -8
When they know you're running and it's one yard, you're just making it harder by putting him so far behind the line. Seahawks used to do that w lynch and even he had a rough time w that crappy set up. Very costly mistake doing that twice late in the game and getting stuffed No doubt. Jim Wilson said the same thing post game. It makes the o line have to hold their blocks that much longer. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 30, 2016 0:50:58 GMT -8
When they know you're running and it's one yard, you're just making it harder by putting him so far behind the line. Seahawks used to do that w lynch and even he had a rough time w that crappy set up. Very costly mistake doing that twice late in the game and getting stuffed No doubt. Jim Wilson said the same thing post game. It makes the o line have to hold their blocks that much longer. Almost a bigger issue is the RB gets the ball standing still. PS- we need OC that can be a little more inventive (more than trick plays) / make adjustments. On several key plays (including Nall's short TD run) we simply expected WSU to shift to our "heavy" side. They did not and we still try to run to an outmanned weak side. Between the undisciplined penalties and the 80 yds of offense the 2nd half due WSU just out scheming our staff the 2nd half we tossed a great opportunity away. |
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Post by Angus on Oct 30, 2016 3:05:38 GMT -8
When they know you're running and it's one yard, you're just making it harder by putting him so far behind the line. Seahawks used to do that w lynch and even he had a rough time w that crappy set up. Very costly mistake doing that twice late in the game and getting stuffed But there's this problem of the WSU Dline. On every play you mention the WSU Dline just destroyed our Oline. Got immediate penetration through the gaps and pushed our guys clean backward, in such time that any difference in where Nall was would not change the outcome. He would have seen a wall of white regardless. I understand the reasoning, but in our case with Nall getting the ball, he is a slow starter who needs to gain steam to be effective. With that, I'd bet that is exactly why we did it that way. And he was doing a good job even if he had to take on one or two defenders single-handidly. Problem was, he was seeing 4-5 WSU defenders. Just no place to run. Our lack of depth on the Oline is haunting us. The guys did fine much of the night, but the last few series were brutal. And Stanton had to come out with an injury. Did he return? Either way, that couldn't have helped. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Oct 30, 2016 6:57:53 GMT -8
If I'm not mistaken, the first few snaps of OS very first drive of the year at Minnesota was all from under center. So yeah, I was screaming for the QB to get under center there.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Oct 30, 2016 7:45:17 GMT -8
Or if McM had just kept it on one of those dastardly plays after faking to the big guy....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 8:11:28 GMT -8
absotitely. Rileyitis.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Oct 30, 2016 9:40:49 GMT -8
Or if McM had just kept it on one of those dastardly plays after faking to the big guy.... I think that was by design. If MM goes down we are using Seth at QB??? In any event we are in a world of hurt. Jim Wilson was with you on MM keeping the ball to put some doubt in the Cougs mind. But I think we are just too thin there at QB |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 30, 2016 9:47:53 GMT -8
I wasn't sure if McM not keeping the ball was by design yo keep him safe or if by choice on his part. It sure appeared that on several occasions it would have been more successful. I guess if he's all we got you protect him, but he doesn't make much of a decoy if the other team figures it out.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Oct 30, 2016 10:03:51 GMT -8
Exactly! If him keeping it isn't an option, then stop going from that formation in that situation lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 14:31:05 GMT -8
Case in point. Atlanta Green Bay just now. Atlanta driving late down by 4. Terron Ward catches a pass down to the 1. Atlanta lines up 3 times behind center and finally punches it in. Good for Terron By the way  and Good for Andy Levitre blocking |
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