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Post by ag87 on Nov 7, 2016 16:54:41 GMT -8
This is Oregon State's stats through nine games, 2016 and 2015
2016 2015
offense yards/attempt rushing 6.3 5.0
defense yards/attempt rushing 5.8 5.3
Passing game rating (offense) 69.9 73.6
Passing game rating (defense) 105.3 117.7
Rush offense/game (yards) 188 187
Pass offense/game (yards) 164 156
Rush defense/game (yards) 235 199
Pass defense/game (yards) 206 227
Points/game 23.1 17.2
Points allowed/game 31.6 31.8
Some explanation: I handicap games seriously now and the stats are from the Pac-12 site but adjusted for how I want to use them. The yards per rushing attempt stats exclude quarterback sacks (unlike typical college stats). The passing rating stats are the NFL version with my own adjustment for sacks. 100 is very close to average. I remove all stats accumulated in overtimes so the 2016 numbers don't include the overtime with Cal.
Before I compiled this, my thought would have been our offense is the same and our defense is better. Now it's more murky to my eye.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 7, 2016 17:15:16 GMT -8
This is Oregon State's stats through nine games, 2016 and 2015 2016 2015 offense yards/attempt rushing 6.3 5.0 defense yards/attempt rushing 5.8 5.3
Passing game rating (offense) 69.9 73.6
Passing game rating (defense) 105.3 117.7
Rush offense/game (yards) 188 187
Pass offense/game (yards) 164 156
Rush defense/game (yards) 235 199
Pass defense/game (yards) 206 227
Points/game 23.1 17.2
Points allowed/game 31.6 31.8
Some explanation: I handicap games seriously now and the stats are from the Pac-12 site but adjusted for how I want to use them. The yards per rushing attempt stats exclude quarterback sacks (unlike typical college stats). The passing rating stats are the NFL version with my own adjustment for sacks. 100 is very close to average. I remove all stats accumulated in overtimes so the 2016 numbers don't include the overtime with Cal.
Before I compiled this, my thought would have been our offense is the same and our defense is better. Now it's more murky to my eye. According to ESPN, Points allowed/game at 31.9 this year. Up off of last year. Rushing offense is better. Passing offense the second half of the season last year was 171 ypg. Passing offense is worse. Rushing defense is incredibly worse. Pass defense is better, but that is just causing teams to run more, as Oregon State has not found a consistent way to stop the run. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 7, 2016 17:39:25 GMT -8
This is Oregon State's stats through nine games, 2016 and 2015 2016 2015 offense yards/attempt rushing 6.3 5.0 defense yards/attempt rushing 5.8 5.3
Passing game rating (offense) 69.9 73.6
Passing game rating (defense) 105.3 117.7
Rush offense/game (yards) 188 187
Pass offense/game (yards) 164 156
Rush defense/game (yards) 235 199
Pass defense/game (yards) 206 227
Points/game 23.1 17.2
Points allowed/game 31.6 31.8
Some explanation: I handicap games seriously now and the stats are from the Pac-12 site but adjusted for how I want to use them. The yards per rushing attempt stats exclude quarterback sacks (unlike typical college stats). The passing rating stats are the NFL version with my own adjustment for sacks. 100 is very close to average. I remove all stats accumulated in overtimes so the 2016 numbers don't include the overtime with Cal.
Before I compiled this, my thought would have been our offense is the same and our defense is better. Now it's more murky to my eye. According to ESPN, Points allowed/game at 31.9 this year. Up off of last year. Rushing offense is better. Passing offense the second half of the season last year was 171 ypg. Passing offense is worse. Rushing defense is incredibly worse. Pass defense is better, but that is just causing teams to run more, as Oregon State has not found a consistent way to stop the run. Any team that faces Oregon State and does not double team Aydon and run straight up the gut and straight at Saulo on 75% of their snaps is doing it wrong. |
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Post by beavs6 on Nov 7, 2016 19:03:51 GMT -8
According to ESPN, Points allowed/game at 31.9 this year. Up off of last year. Rushing offense is better. Passing offense the second half of the season last year was 171 ypg. Passing offense is worse. Rushing defense is incredibly worse. Pass defense is better, but that is just causing teams to run more, as Oregon State has not found a consistent way to stop the run. Any team that faces Oregon State and does not double team Aydon and run straight up the gut and straight at Saulo on 75% of their snaps is doing it wrong. Serious question. Are you on an NFL or major college football staff? Between explaining the deficiencies of our staff and now explaining not only how the opponent should attack OSU, but if they don't subscribe to your analysis they are doing it wrong. Man, I hear PK is looking to give some serious coin to a guy like you. |
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Post by ag87 on Nov 7, 2016 21:48:56 GMT -8
This is Oregon State's stats through nine games, 2016 and 2015 2016 2015 2014offense yards/attempt rushing 6.3 5.0 4.8 defense yards/attempt rushing 5.8 5.3 5.3
Passing game rating (offense) 69.9 73.6 95.4
Passing game rating (defense) 105.3 117.7 90.5
Rush offense/game (yards) 188 187 109
Pass offense/game (yards) 164 156 280
Rush defense/game (yards) 235 199 152
Pass defense/game (yards) 206 227 232
Points/game 23.1 17.2 26.8
Points allowed/game 31.6 31.8 29.8
Some explanation: I handicap games seriously now and the stats are from the Pac-12 site but adjusted for how I want to use them. The yards per rushing attempt stats exclude quarterback sacks (unlike typical college stats). The passing rating stats are the NFL version with my own adjustment for sacks. 100 is very close to average. I remove all stats accumulated in overtimes so the 2016 numbers don't include the overtime with Cal.
Before I compiled this, my thought would have been our offense is the same and our defense is better. Now it's more murky to my eye.
Because I was curious, I pulled up an old file and am adding 2014's numbers through nine games. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 8, 2016 13:28:17 GMT -8
Any team that faces Oregon State and does not double team Aydon and run straight up the gut and straight at Saulo on 75% of their snaps is doing it wrong. Serious question. Are you on an NFL or major college football staff? Between explaining the deficiencies of our staff and now explaining not only how the opponent should attack OSU, but if they don't subscribe to your analysis they are doing it wrong. Man, I hear PK is looking to give some serious coin to a guy like you. Are you being serious? ATown is one of the 4 or 5 best X and O guys on this board. Our run defense is atrociously bad. We do not have the linebacking corps to run the defense that we are trying to run. We make teams like California, who have no appreciable run game appear to be a running team. And the strength of this team is the defense!?!?!?!?! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 8, 2016 13:34:11 GMT -8
This is Oregon State's stats through nine games, 2016 and 2015 2016 2015 2014offense yards/attempt rushing 6.3 5.0 4.8 defense yards/attempt rushing 5.8 5.3 5.3
Passing game rating (offense) 69.9 73.6 95.4
Passing game rating (defense) 105.3 117.7 90.5
Rush offense/game (yards) 188 187 109
Pass offense/game (yards) 164 156 280
Rush defense/game (yards) 235 199 152
Pass defense/game (yards) 206 227 232
Points/game 23.1 17.2 26.8
Points allowed/game 31.6 31.8 29.8
Some explanation: I handicap games seriously now and the stats are from the Pac-12 site but adjusted for how I want to use them. The yards per rushing attempt stats exclude quarterback sacks (unlike typical college stats). The passing rating stats are the NFL version with my own adjustment for sacks. 100 is very close to average. I remove all stats accumulated in overtimes so the 2016 numbers don't include the overtime with Cal.
Before I compiled this, my thought would have been our offense is the same and our defense is better. Now it's more murky to my eye.
Because I was curious, I pulled up an old file and am adding 2014's numbers through nine games. And everyone was out there saying how bad the 2014 front 7 was. (And that defensive line was bad.) If this year's Nall was on that 2014 team (and stayed healthy), Oregon State would have gone at least 8-4. Storm never looked right after the first half of 2013. But the coaches penciled him in over Ward anyway, because he had a ton of potential that just never materialized. |
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Post by beavs6 on Nov 8, 2016 15:20:27 GMT -8
Serious question. Are you on an NFL or major college football staff? Between explaining the deficiencies of our staff and now explaining not only how the opponent should attack OSU, but if they don't subscribe to your analysis they are doing it wrong. Man, I hear PK is looking to give some serious coin to a guy like you. Are you being serious? ATown is one of the 4 or 5 best X and O guys on this board. Our run defense is atrociously bad. We do not have the linebacking corps to run the defense that we are trying to run. We make teams like California, who have no appreciable run game appear to be a running team. And the strength of this team is the defense!?!?!?!?! Look...I get it. There are a few posters here from sites I was never on. You all seem to know each other well. You stand up for each other and correct people that have alternative opinions. It is not as much the information, but how it is consistently being presented. I just get tired of opinion by some being touted and reminded that they are opinions...and opinions from others being touted as facts or of more value because...well because. I agree that our D has a whole lot of area that needs improvement...as well as our O...as well as our ST.(oh boy) The REALLY HOPEFUL thing for me is that if we can somehow squeak out a win in LA, we may finish 2016 on a 3 game winning streak. I hope everyone can agree that would be a good thing.(no matter how it happened) |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 8, 2016 15:45:11 GMT -8
Are you being serious? ATown is one of the 4 or 5 best X and O guys on this board. Our run defense is atrociously bad. We do not have the linebacking corps to run the defense that we are trying to run. We make teams like California, who have no appreciable run game appear to be a running team. And the strength of this team is the defense!?!?!?!?! Look...I get it. There are a few posters here from sites I was never on. You all seem to know each other well. You stand up for each other and correct people that have alternative opinions. It is not as much the information, but how it is consistently being presented. I just get tired of opinion by some being touted and reminded that they are opinions...and opinions from others being touted as facts or of more value because...well because. I agree that our D has a whole lot of area that needs improvement...as well as our O...as well as our ST.(oh boy) The REALLY HOPEFUL thing for me is that if we can somehow squeak out a win in LA, we may finish 2016 on a 3 game winning streak. I hope everyone can agree that would be a good thing.(no matter how it happened) I agree with you that that would be a great thing. UCLA is starting a walk-on senior quarterback. Hopefully, Oregon State can stop that offense and put up enough points to win. Arizona and Oregon look eminently more winnable, as each are in Corvallis. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 10, 2016 7:24:59 GMT -8
Look...I get it. There are a few posters here from sites I was never on. You all seem to know each other well. You stand up for each other and correct people that have alternative opinions. It is not as much the information, but how it is consistently being presented. I just get tired of opinion by some being touted and reminded that they are opinions...and opinions from others being touted as facts or of more value because...well because. I agree that our D has a whole lot of area that needs improvement...as well as our O...as well as our ST.(oh boy) The REALLY HOPEFUL thing for me is that if we can somehow squeak out a win in LA, we may finish 2016 on a 3 game winning streak. I hope everyone can agree that would be a good thing.(no matter how it happened) I agree with you that that would be a great thing. UCLA is starting a walk-on senior quarterback. Hopefully, Oregon State can stop that offense and put up enough points to win. Arizona and Oregon look eminently more winnable, as each are in Corvallis. My take on what transpires: UCLA - still a ton of talent on that team. The back-up QB is decent, he threw for 460+ vs Utah the only time he played at home. UCLA has also just gone through a murderer's row vs. WSU/Utah/Colorado. Gonna be a real tough game to win, hopefully they are overlooking the Beavs. AZ - a hot mess, OS should be favored. OR - still a ton of talent on that team, at least on offense. They can still put up 50 plus points easily. OS is going to have to play inspired football. I imagine OS will be 10 pt dogs in that game. I expect one win, I'd be thrilled with 2 wins, I'd go to a bowl game Fairbanks AK with 3 wins. |
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