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Post by grackle on Oct 1, 2017 15:51:28 GMT -8
Year #3 now and CGA's program is an obvious, bloated failure. And things will almost surely get only worse if he is allowed to continue. President Ray is an able administrator and can see the handwriting on the wall. Nevertheless, I believe there is only one circumstance under which Dr. Ray would likely act to terminate CGA in the near future: If it makes financial sense to do so.
At first glance it is difficult to imagine a circumstance where it might be less expensive to let CGA go now rather than to retain him for the next year or two. As many here have pointed out, CGA has huge contractual guarantees for which OSU would be liable if he were fired. However, if enough big time donors were to threaten to withhold $$$ contributions so long as CGA is retained, Dr. Ray would, IMO, very likely reconsider once the impact of their withheld funds began to approach the cost of firing CGA.
Are there even enough big donors out there to make the financial impact necessary to bring on immediate changes to the FB program? Would they be willing to withhold their donations? Who knows. Remember though that Ed Ray's background is in economics. I believe that throughout this process, he will follow the path that, in his opinion, will lead to the greatest near-term financial benefit for the university.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 16:00:26 GMT -8
Year #3 now and CGA's program is an obvious, bloated failure. And things will almost surely get only worse if he is allowed to continue. President Ray is an able administrator and can see the handwriting on the wall. Nevertheless, I believe there is only one circumstance under which Dr. Ray would likely act to terminate CGA in the near future: If it makes financial sense to do so. At first glance it is difficult to imagine a circumstance where it might be less expensive to let CGA go now rather than to retain him for the next year or two. As many here have pointed out, CGA has huge contractual guarantees for which OSU would be liable if he were fired. However, if enough big time donors were to threaten to withhold $$$ contributions so long as CGA is retained, Dr. Ray would, IMO, very likely reconsider once the impact of their withheld funds began to approach the cost of firing CGA. Are there even enough big donors out there to make the financial impact necessary to bring on immediate changes to the FB program? Would they be willing to withhold their donations? Who knows. Remember though that Ed Ray's background is in economics. I believe that throughout this process, he will follow the path that, in his opinion, will end up with the greatest near-term financial benefit for the university. you are forgetting the destiny circumstance. you are forgetting the Lavonda circumstance. you are forgetting the Mike Leach Texas Tech circumstance. Nobody expects those things to happen but they are out there. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 1, 2017 16:02:27 GMT -8
Quick! Someone lock a player in an electrical closet and say it was CGA!
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 1, 2017 16:14:30 GMT -8
Don't hold your breath waiting for the "big donors". There aren't any. It's not as though there are folks out there writing million-dollar checks on a whim. The big donors at OSU aren't that big, and they don't change their giving decisions on a week-by-week basis. If we had so many whales willing to put up millions to buy out a coach, we'd already have Reser finished and a jumbotron at Gill.
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 1, 2017 16:32:14 GMT -8
It's very ODD how few mega donors OSU has, isn't it? I'm talking athletics. Very damn few ( BIG donors) if any.
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Post by orangethunder on Oct 1, 2017 16:53:23 GMT -8
Maybe if many of the negative comments about Andersen from this board and others or newspaper commentary were collected and emailed directly to Gary on a daily basis , maybe he would get the message and resign
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Post by osulax24 on Oct 1, 2017 18:44:55 GMT -8
I think there are a lot of big money, successful alumni, who would invest, unfortunately the fans are lame and have created a loser atmosphere that's hard to back. Get some pride Beaver Nation
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 1, 2017 19:07:56 GMT -8
I think there are a lot of big money, successful alumni, who would invest, unfortunately the fans are lame and have created a loser atmosphere that's hard to back. Get some pride Beaver Nation Show us how to do that "winner's" attitude lax. SaveSave |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Oct 1, 2017 19:53:38 GMT -8
Yep....I forgot how the days of Avezanno and Fertig were til we got CGA. Was Dr Ray around then so maybe he needs to get a taste of that again for a few coaching cycles. It sucks to be a Beav football fan right now. When 3M jumped ship......that took the wind out of the sails of this team. I would take any of Riley's teams over what we have right now. Add on top of that the crap going on in the NFL and BOOM....why should we even waste our time with this sport for this year's team and coach. Both have quit on each other.
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 1, 2017 20:29:19 GMT -8
It's very ODD how few mega donors OSU has, isn't it? I'm talking athletics. Very damn few ( BIG donors) if any. It's a by-product of being in a small town. In Eugene, every business that does any business with anyone else in Eugene has to have a presence at Autzen. So every law firm, advertising outlet (tv, newspaper, billboard), car dealership, insurance agency, service company of any kind, etc.. was buying tickets (and now, suites). Of those, some of those companies will be run by real fans, and if the company is successful, then you have the makings of a whale. Personally, I knew a couple such folks, and none of them were UO grads or even had kids at UO. They did it for the business connections, and I suppose they liked football. Corvallis hardly has a business community. There are a few agribusiness firms that buy seats at Reser, but that's about it. So no one is writing checks to OSU just to rub shoulders with potential clients, which means our pool of donors is much, much smaller. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 2, 2017 4:16:37 GMT -8
I would like to think wealthy OSU alums would donate to the program for unselfish reasons. Love for school...To give back... So the program has a fighting chance to be successful... etc. You know; non-business reasons. I know some do. Thank-you. Others need to step up.
If not, there is NO WAY OSU could possibly keep up...much less get ahead...in the arms race. As you correctly state, demographics play a major role, and a grassroots effort among small donors would fall short. Way short.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 6:20:48 GMT -8
I think there are a lot of big money, successful alumni, who would invest, unfortunately the fans are lame and have created a loser atmosphere that's hard to back. Get some pride Beaver Nation Show us how to do that "winner's" attitude lax. SaveSavehey kersting what if he is right? |
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 2, 2017 6:32:43 GMT -8
Show us how to do that "winner's" attitude lax. SaveSavehey kersting what if he is right? Then he should be part of the solution, not part of the problem. I'm at every damn home game, donate to the program, watch all the games, post as much as I can to the message board, etc. What's lax doing? Showing up and complaining that our fan base sucks? That's helpful. SaveSave |
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Post by osulax24 on Oct 2, 2017 6:54:55 GMT -8
Angry this morning? Sorry bout that... I donate, go to games, buy shwag. Sorry the fan base is pathetic, how is it not? But I guess you are a better fan than me??
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Post by osulax24 on Oct 2, 2017 6:56:57 GMT -8
Show us how to do that "winner's" attitude lax. SaveSavehey kersting what if he is right? Doubt it, Kersting said I don't go to games too and spend $, because he/she knows me very well personally, so much so, they state it as fact... |
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