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Post by shelby on Oct 5, 2017 9:41:06 GMT -8
Same as Willie boy down the street - success wise. What did he do right ? Well, he inherited a big donor and facility program ( soon to be exposed for illegal activities - both in football and basketball - basketball first ), Not of his doing, not so much for Andersen. Secondly, he went all out on a proven staff ( his doing ), guys that CAN coach ( unlike our OC AND DC - both unproven and ‘dinosaurs’ that cannot get a young athlete’s attention or respect ), and - maybe more importantly - these same guys can recruit because they can relate. Yes, they have something to ‘sell’, but, if we don’t get on that side of the ball - we are doomed to irrelevance. Look at WSU, yeah it’s a Leach system - but, they stuck with him...and now they can recruit athletes on both sides of the ball, especially a quarterback and wide out’s. I think Andersen can change his staff. - young, progressive, innovative, proven teachers and recruiters that the kids can relate to, and build the same way. These changes need to be made ASAP. Running, receiving and tackling fundamentals are woefully weak. We get two injuries to key players and everyone writes off the entire season. Can we be any less deep on our depth chart? So, keep Andersen , fire the Coordinators. I have seen some pretty good defenses this year ( not talking about Beaver opponents ), Cal is MUCH improved, as is WSU and many nonPAC 12 guys. How about throwing some money at the Navy guy and or his Staff ? I am sure there are plenty of options with guys that want a challenge and a change, plus some opportunity and money ! Ed Ray will figure it out. Keep the search committee to guys that do NOT have personal agenda’s or friends in the business. We NEED a hard, current analysis based on facts and data - not friends and agenda’s. Look at what Erickson did in a very compressed time frame ? He isn’t relevant now - but we need a young guy like him. Yeah, this guy would not be the HC, but, with success - he moves up.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 5, 2017 9:46:03 GMT -8
I think we are over doing it here... "chefs" ? How about a line cook at your Shari's? That makes the analogy more in line with what we are seeing... line cook trying to impersonate a chef... As opposed to a couch-coach impersonating someone who is "connected" and "in-the-know?" Don't you have some arse to go smell 'doggie' Your lame posts are getting worse by the second. By the way, posting here has zero correlation to NOT supporting the players. And if said 18-22 y/os are here reading then we know part of the problem, and it ain't the posters! So... tell us all 'enlightened one', how do you support the players? Big BASF donation? season tix? to multiple sports? attend off season fundraising events? Attend player/end of the season award events/dinners? Ya... you seem like the couch type to me... but, then again you can make up any crap you'd like on here about all the $$ and attendance support you give, cuz, well... you good at "crap" in general But, thx for attempting to play along... it is amusing how you try to disparage multiple posters (although you still have the young frustrated creeper vibe about certain posters) yet offer little substance of your own in about 95% of your "two sentence posts".
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 5, 2017 10:34:36 GMT -8
So your solution.... You hire a chef to cook some eggs. He starts making an omelet, but before it is finished, you fire him and get a new chef who decides the eggs really need to be poached instead, so he gathers up the eggs (the same ones, mind you) and starts poaching them. Instead of waiting for the results, you fire him and hire a new chef who decides the eggs need to be fried, so he takes those same eggs and tries to fry them. What a mess! It's my opinion that we hired the coach to do a job, knowing that the job itself would involve a transformation of Beaver football. Transformations take time. Be professional. Give the man the support and the time to get the work done. Losing Luton was a great blow to the team. Last year cycling through three quarterbacks was also a great blow to consistency. Not only have the standard difficulties of rebuilding a weak team in a strong conference have had to be faced, but he's also had to deal with injuries to key players. We'll get there. It's just hard work moving uphill without the resources of some of the other schools. In this case we hired a chef and said make a brilliant egg dish.... In this case the chef threw out or reassigned towards another dish the AA large eggs in the fridge and brought in a couple A large hoping they might be better suited for his plans, then started making the omelette... After a couple tries he decided those eggs sucked and took out a AA medium he had brought in and decided to use that for the omelette. That egg broke and he replaced it with a A medium that broke, then he was forced to bring out the one remaining AA medium the last chef had brought in... and the omelette was looking like it was going to work well... then he saw a shiny new AA x-large and thought "gotta have it" and decided to use it for a quiche. Turns out the chef couldn't really decide if he was making an omelette or a quiche (which the new AA x-large was actually very suited for) and the egg broke. So the chef now pulls out the AA medium (which now looks like it might really be an A medium) and decides to make some kind of scrambled egg thing with it... There is no actual meal plan yet.
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Post by touchdownbeavers on Oct 5, 2017 10:41:22 GMT -8
Who cooks eggs in an oven?
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 5, 2017 10:56:20 GMT -8
Who cooks eggs in an oven? Man, the best way to hard boil an egg, particularly if you are doing a lot of them. Also, ain't you ever quiche man? altonbrown.com/baked-eggs/
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Post by beavsaregood on Oct 5, 2017 13:41:39 GMT -8
Who cooks eggs in an oven? quiche, bro. some people bake frittatas.
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Post by jimbeav on Oct 5, 2017 14:05:52 GMT -8
We are on the 3rd self-inflicted reboot of a self-inflicted rebuild, and will undoubtedly go through a 4th, all instigated by the affliction that is Gary Andersen. It is mind boggling that anybody still plays the "give it time" card, when we have seen more than enough to know that all Andersen knows how to do is f*ck things up, again and again and again and again...
I challenge anybody to name one...ONE...tactical decision about this program that CGA has made that has turned out positive for this beloved program of ours. I honestly don't see a single damn one.
I just don't understand the mindset behind trusting a guy to right a ship, when he was the one that sunk it in the first place...
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Post by snohobeav on Oct 5, 2017 14:38:56 GMT -8
We are on the 3rd self-inflicted reboot of a self-inflicted rebuild, and will undoubtedly go through a 4th, all instigated by the affliction that is Gary Andersen. It is mind boggling that anybody still plays the "give it time" card, when we have seen more than enough to know that all Andersen knows how to do is f*ck things up, again and again and again and again... I challenge anybody to name one...ONE...tactical decision about this program that CGA has made that has turned out positive for this beloved program of ours. I honestly don't see a single damn one. I just don't understand the mindset behind trusting a guy to right a ship, when he was the one that sunk it in the first place... Moving Ryan Nall to RB.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 5, 2017 14:53:10 GMT -8
Nall was set to be a RB under Riley. Nothing new under GA other than finally not changing it.
The one"tactical" thing he's done a fantastic job of is improving academics. What he has done really seemed to work, if the grades continue to hold up.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 5, 2017 14:53:44 GMT -8
We are on the 3rd self-inflicted reboot of a self-inflicted rebuild, and will undoubtedly go through a 4th, all instigated by the affliction that is Gary Andersen. It is mind boggling that anybody still plays the "give it time" card, when we have seen more than enough to know that all Andersen knows how to do is f*ck things up, again and again and again and again... I challenge anybody to name one...ONE...tactical decision about this program that CGA has made that has turned out positive for this beloved program of ours. I honestly don't see a single damn one. I just don't understand the mindset behind trusting a guy to right a ship, when he was the one that sunk it in the first place... Moving Ryan Nall to RB. I am going to be that guy, but moving Ryan Nall BACK to RB... Riley brought him in as an athlete, uncertain of his role, envisioning a Joe Halahuni type HB at first. However, during his red shirt year, RB was his landing spot and he practiced with the RBs and was exclusively an RB on scout team. Andersen came in and did the LB, TE, whatcha gonna be dance before landing on RB.
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Post by ag87 on Oct 5, 2017 15:02:14 GMT -8
We are on the 3rd self-inflicted reboot of a self-inflicted rebuild, and will undoubtedly go through a 4th, all instigated by the affliction that is Gary Andersen. It is mind boggling that anybody still plays the "give it time" card, when we have seen more than enough to know that all Andersen knows how to do is f*ck things up, again and again and again and again... I challenge anybody to name one...ONE...tactical decision about this program that CGA has made that has turned out positive for this beloved program of ours. I honestly don't see a single damn one. I just don't understand the mindset behind trusting a guy to right a ship, when he was the one that sunk it in the first place... Going with 3M last year after the injuries to all the other quarterbacks. He could have had open try-outs and gone with the intramural all-star.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 5, 2017 15:09:53 GMT -8
Nall was set to be a RB under Riley. Nothing new under GA other than finally not changing it. The one"tactical" thing he's done a fantastic job of is improving academics. What he has done really seemed to work, if the grades continue to hold up. That was not so much GAG. He is incorrectly given credit for the grades improving. The AD's office went thru a massive change as far as accountability and the academic support for athletes was improved overall. It wasn't a joke under MR... it was BDC that really did not give hoot unless problems arose. The entire academic support staff was put on notice and with the new building the structure of the support system has improved dramatically. But, that was a department thing, not a GAG thing. Both staffs stressed community and academics... life after football. It's not been just a new concept under GAG. Our athletes in general have always excelled at life after sports/school.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 5, 2017 15:13:08 GMT -8
I am going to be that guy, but moving Ryan Nall BACK to RB... Riley brought him in as an athlete, uncertain of his role, envisioning a Joe Halahuni type HB at first. However, during his red shirt year, RB was his landing spot and he practiced with the RBs and was exclusively an RB on scout team. Andersen came in and did the LB, TE, whatcha gonna be dance before landing on RB. Exactly... Nall became a RB about the same way 3M got to play QB... sort of a last resort/no brainer.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Oct 5, 2017 15:43:28 GMT -8
I am going to be that guy, but moving Ryan Nall BACK to RB... Riley brought him in as an athlete, uncertain of his role, envisioning a Joe Halahuni type HB at first. However, during his red shirt year, RB was his landing spot and he practiced with the RBs and was exclusively an RB on scout team. Andersen came in and did the LB, TE, whatcha gonna be dance before landing on RB. Exactly... Nall became a RB about the same way 3M got to play QB... sort of a last resort/no brainer. IIRC Ryan was told before the Civil War that he was moving to LB. Then he goes out and tears up the *ucks and becomes a War daddy. Then he gets his RB position. It wasn't so much CGA spotting talent & coaching it up. But at that point even CGA can see the talent there
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Post by nabeav on Oct 5, 2017 16:02:30 GMT -8
All seriousness our team probably needs Nall at LB instead of RB right now. We have lots of talent at RB.
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