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Post by nabeav on Oct 7, 2017 16:52:15 GMT -8
Year 1... 3 wins taking over the worst mess of a D1 program ever maybe... ============================ Wulff won four games overall and two Pac-12 games his last year. Leach won three anbd one his first year. Leach also inherited a redshirt sophomore named Connor Halliday, who was a pretty good QB. WSU was not good when leach took over but it wasn't the absolute dumpster fire many make it out to be. Oh man, don’t bring up inherited QBs man. That doesn’t help your argument
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 7, 2017 16:52:37 GMT -8
damd4lyfe .... How dare you even think about posting anything positive here. Don't you know that kind of thinking is forbidden? Seriously man! They'll pound you down until you start drinking the cheap stuff again. Then you'll be bitter and upset just like them. Look at me. I tried. And now I have nightmares of beavers. Beavers have me surrounded baring their teeth and slapping their tales. CGA tries to save me but he's being attacked by Angry Beavers and distracted by seductive co-eds. BUT... he raised the GPAs of all involved!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 16:59:12 GMT -8
Seriously man! They'll pound you down until you start drinking the cheap stuff again. Then you'll be bitter and upset just like them. Look at me. I tried. And now I have nightmares of beavers. Beavers have me surrounded baring their teeth and slapping their tales. CGA tries to save me but he's being attacked by Angry Beavers and distracted by seductive co-eds. BUT... he raised the GPAs of all involved! ...which is the reason he'll be here another year or two, even if CBSsports says he's in the hot seat.
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Post by damd4lyfe on Oct 7, 2017 17:00:10 GMT -8
damd4lyfe .... How dare you even think about posting anything positive here. Don't you know that kind of thinking is forbidden? Seriously man! They'll pound you down until you start drinking the cheap stuff again. Then you'll be bitter and upset just like them. Look at me. I tried. And now I have nightmares of beavers. Beavers have me surrounded baring their teeth and slapping their tales. CGA tries to save me but he's being attacked by Angry Beavers and distracted by seductive co-eds. It's ok I've got thick skin and no problem admitting I'm wrong . Just throwing in my 2 cents
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 17:03:28 GMT -8
Seriously man! They'll pound you down until you start drinking the cheap stuff again. Then you'll be bitter and upset just like them. Look at me. I tried. And now I have nightmares of beavers. Beavers have me surrounded baring their teeth and slapping their tales. CGA tries to save me but he's being attacked by Angry Beavers and distracted by seductive co-eds. It's ok I've got thick skin and no problem admitting I'm wrong . Just throwing in my 2 cents Stick around, then. Gary Andersen has few supporters on this site.
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Post by ochobeavo on Oct 7, 2017 17:06:04 GMT -8
Honest questions- - Do you see any difference makers in the wings with his next recruiting class? - are you good with his QB carousel? Or his ability to evaluate QB talent? - are you good with another year of trying to play a 3-4 without the horses? Solid questions, not trying to blindly follow GA. I just think I see next year as his 3rd year more than this year. OSU to me needs to be an older team to be successful To quote SS "The devil you know is better than the devil you don't" Fair enough. Not trying to dog you for having a different opinion than my own - I just can't get past the QB nightmare, the "game planning" or lackthereof and don't see any help on the horizon. I really do think we will give him another year and he will turn over the staff and that will be deemed "the solution". And I shall drink more...
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 7, 2017 17:12:51 GMT -8
I am not saying GA will work out for sure but here is the case to give him another year or two: -only has two recruiting classes -lots of assistant coach turnover -only two coaches have ever won in OSU history: 1. Brought in players on parole (won't happen again) 2. Found hidden gems which doesn't happen with technology today I have another season or two in me, if 4* QB ends up being good I think we have room for optimism Are you really sticking with the criminal charge? DE brought in JC kids, GA has been bringing in kids that can't even qualify. As far as the hidden gem thing goes... so are you saying the several 0 and 2 star kids GA has brought in just plain suck?
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 7, 2017 17:14:32 GMT -8
Seriously man! They'll pound you down until you start drinking the cheap stuff again. Then you'll be bitter and upset just like them. Look at me. I tried. And now I have nightmares of beavers. Beavers have me surrounded baring their teeth and slapping their tales. CGA tries to save me but he's being attacked by Angry Beavers and distracted by seductive co-eds. It's ok I've got thick skin and no problem admitting I'm wrong . Just throwing in my 2 cents You're not wrong... it's a message board full of opinions. A bunch of us could be wrong... Just don't think so!!! But, he's here next year all the same.
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Post by damd4lyfe on Oct 7, 2017 17:27:22 GMT -8
Solid questions, not trying to blindly follow GA. I just think I see next year as his 3rd year more than this year. OSU to me needs to be an older team to be successful To quote SS "The devil you know is better than the devil you don't" Fair enough. Not trying to dog you for having a different opinion than my own - I just can't get past the QB nightmare, the "game planning" or lackthereof and don't see any help on the horizon. I really do think we will give him another year and he will turn over the staff and that will be deemed "the solution". And I shall drink more... I do think the QB makes the coach more than the other way around but I also understand that the coach has to get the QB there and give him a chance. I'd like to see Anderson coaching with a competent QB but then again getting one could be his downfall. Just wanna see the petras kid or whatever his name is and another year or two before jumping to another sinking ship. I don't buy Luton.
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Post by roundupbeav on Oct 7, 2017 17:28:54 GMT -8
If you are referring to the Fiesta Bowl team and someone on parole, please get your facts straight. No one was on parole and that's a dirty thing to say about a great team that reads this board. If I have misunderstood, I apologize in advance.
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Post by damd4lyfe on Oct 7, 2017 17:38:42 GMT -8
If you are referring to the Fiesta Bowl team and someone on parole, please get your facts straight. No one was on parole and that's a dirty thing to say about a great team that reads this board. If I have misunderstood, I apologize in advance. Just hyperbole, I don't think ochocinco was exactly interested in class. We don't recruit players like that since unless I'm unaware and mispeaking
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 7, 2017 17:53:15 GMT -8
Maybe we should.
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Post by korculabeav on Oct 7, 2017 17:58:35 GMT -8
I am not saying GA will work out for sure but here is the case to give him another year or two: -only has two recruiting classes -lots of assistant coach turnover -only two coaches have ever won in OSU history: 1. Brought in players on parole (won't happen again) 2. Found hidden gems which doesn't happen with technology today I have another season or two in me, if 4* QB ends up being good I think we have room for optimism Spot on. Leach had a terrible 3rd year and look what he has done in year 4 and 5. People calling for his head are short sighted and haven't thought about whether we could even upgrade at coach. He needs a new OC, if he doesn't make that change all bets are off Leach Year 3 has a better team than this disaster. Year 3 for them was not a major regression from year 2 like this team!🙄
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Oct 7, 2017 18:02:12 GMT -8
The only case for cga that I can think of is a suitcase.....
For me it is not so much about the game losses but his loss of the team. A great coach can get a player to play better than they naturally are, think Casey or Rueck, cga has not shown that ability. His revolving door treatment of quarterbacks will undermine his relationships with all his players.
And then there is his comments, he is a pr nightmare.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 18:05:05 GMT -8
Spot on. Leach had a terrible 3rd year and look what he has done in year 4 and 5. People calling for his head are short sighted and haven't thought about whether we could even upgrade at coach. He needs a new OC, if he doesn't make that change all bets are off Leach Year 3 has a better team than this disaster. Year 3 for them was not a major regression from year 2 like this team!🙄 Is this a regression from last year's team? I'm not sure that's true. Of course, last year's schedule wasn't as demanding so early as this year's. Let's wait and see how the Beavs play against unranked teams before we call this season a disaster.
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