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Post by beavadelic on Oct 26, 2017 22:22:09 GMT -8
I am really a big fan of Corey Hall with what I have seen happening on and off the field the past 2 1/2 weeks.
The effort tonight was something to behold. This is the same group folks, that sleep-walked their way through the first half of the season. If we were fortunate enough to be competitive for the first half, we were shocked. After halfime? Forget about it. Every opponent boat-raced is after the half. Not this group!
I know that Stanford is extremely one-dimensional offensively. I know that their stud didn’t play tonight, and he is averaging over 200 ypg. Ridiculous! You don’t replace a guy like that. However, our D played the best complete game I’ve seen in years. Stanford scored 9 points when we fumbled the ball away needlessly and when we were in total control at the end of the first half and the last 2 1/2 minutes of the game. For the other 57 minutes, we allowed 2 field goals. And, we played with secondary guys who are 3rd on the depth chart.
I know that the Trees are much better defensively than us because they are almost always all in the right place, and they break down and finish tackling beautifully. We still lunge or don’t wrap, and take bad angles at times, but if not for those fumbles, followed by a fantastic clutch throw and catch on 4th and 10, we shut them down cold and should have won the game. There is zero way that the defense we saw earlier in the year would have stepped up against anyone and responded to adversity the way we did tonight.
How can a position coach take the same group of players that a supposedly proven, hot commodity head coach failed miserably with and turn them into a real team so quickly? It’s all about the “ations”.
Inspiration, motivation and preparation. He has managed to get our motley crew of B talent players to believe that they belong on the field with the A team, and what I see on the field is different....and I LOVE it. To the point that I’ve gone from praying that this trainwreck season would just get over with to simply wanting more of this team.
I know that Coach O and Helton are a couple of examples of guys who have stepped up and brought energy and freshness at first to big-time programs, only to come crashing to earth when the aura and newness wears off. I don’t feel that we can afford to roll the dice on an unproven guy with this hire, and my standard is not to simply compete in the long run. However, Coach Hall has something about him that is really intriguing, and he’s going to be a really good head coach IMO someday. Maybe the timing and circumstances will allow that to be at OSU someday. At any rate, color me impressed!
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 26, 2017 22:36:54 GMT -8
This coaching staff looks like it's really sticking it to CGA.
We've gone from a team that looks completely inept and incapable of even competing in games under a supposed upper-level coach, to actually appearing to be an honest-to-God football team under a guy who has only 2+ years of position coaching at the college level.
Clearly, there were some toxic-level relationships between the coaching staff and the HC.
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 27, 2017 3:26:01 GMT -8
Agreed with both above. We NEED a QB...A tight end with reliable hands...A deep threat who comes to play EVERY single game...A kicker AND punter (my god...one COULD make the case that they cost us the game)... AND we NEED to finish Reser. I don't give a damn HOW MANY empty seats there are NOW.
Ed Ray and "whats his name (the AD)" have ahelluva decision to make: Do we go with Hall (outside the box?? THAT box hasn't even been MANUFACTURED yet!), or do we test the market for a more "proven" commodity?
We're OSU....The outside of the OUTSIDE the box sounds good to me!!
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Post by blackbug on Oct 27, 2017 22:19:21 GMT -8
Note to Coach Hall. Your FG kicker's range does not go to 50 yrds and beyond (we have seen that in the last two games). Other than that keep up the great work! I would have liked to see us go for it on our FG miss. Choukair has actually made several 50+ in practice. Game situation is different though. But then if his limit is permanently declared at 48 he will never actually prove that he can go farther in a game. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 1:02:29 GMT -8
Agreed with both above. We NEED a QB...A tight end with reliable hands...A deep threat who comes to play EVERY single game...A kicker AND punter (my god...one COULD make the case that they cost us the game)... AND we NEED to finish Reser. I don't give a damn HOW MANY empty seats there are NOW. Ed Ray and "whats his name (the AD)" have ahelluva decision to make: Do we go with Hall (outside the box?? THAT box hasn't even been MANUFACTURED yet!), or do we test the market for a more "proven" commodity? We're OSU....The outside of the OUTSIDE the box sounds good to me!! Amen brotha |
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Post by orangeattack on Oct 29, 2017 20:54:31 GMT -8
Agreed with both above. We NEED a QB...A tight end with reliable hands...A deep threat who comes to play EVERY single game...A kicker AND punter (my god...one COULD make the case that they cost us the game)... AND we NEED to finish Reser. I don't give a damn HOW MANY empty seats there are NOW. Ed Ray and "whats his name (the AD)" have ahelluva decision to make: Do we go with Hall (outside the box?? THAT box hasn't even been MANUFACTURED yet!), or do we test the market for a more "proven" commodity? We're OSU....The outside of the OUTSIDE the box sounds good to me!! I can get on board with this, but if you're going to do outside the box, you better not do it HALF-ASSED. Give Coach Hall middle-of-the-road relative to the rest of the conference resources, and finish Reser - that's not a half bad plan. I know we're talking about Reser but if you don't give Coach Hall at least the median financial resources for budgeting and the furthering of his program, it's all a waste. If you're trying to do it on the cheap, it's a waste. |
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 30, 2017 9:57:28 GMT -8
Note to Coach Hall. Your FG kicker's range does not go to 50 yrds and beyond (we have seen that in the last two games). Other than that keep up the great work! I would have liked to see us go for it on our FG miss. Choukair has actually made several 50+ in practice. Game situation is different though. But then if his limit is permanently declared at 48 he will never actually prove that he can go farther in a game. His miss was a yard short this last game, and dead center. I suspect that he has 5 more yards in the leg; all the same, I would like AR to be there to kick those long ones. |
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Post by COBeav on Oct 30, 2017 18:18:08 GMT -8
Choukair has actually made several 50+ in practice. Game situation is different though. But then if his limit is permanently declared at 48 he will never actually prove that he can go farther in a game. His miss was a yard short this last game, and dead center. I suspect that he has 5 more yards in the leg; all the same, I would like AR to be there to kick those long ones. What in the world leads you to believe he has +50 in his leg? He's 8 of 14 in FGs in his two years with a career long of 40. I just don't get why we keep asking him to make 50 yarders when there's no evidence that he can. Heck ... let's try some 60 yarders. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 30, 2017 18:27:41 GMT -8
His miss was a yard short this last game, and dead center. I suspect that he has 5 more yards in the leg; all the same, I would like AR to be there to kick those long ones. What in the world leads you to believe he has +50 in his leg? He's 8 of 14 in FGs in his two years with a career long of 40. I just don't get why we keep asking him to make 50 yarders when there's no evidence that he can. Heck ... let's try some 60 yarders. The press didn't know, but he was actually suffering from leg lag. He's recovering now and working back in to top form. |
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Post by COBeav on Oct 30, 2017 18:37:06 GMT -8
What in the world leads you to believe he has +50 in his leg? He's 8 of 14 in FGs in his two years with a career long of 40. I just don't get why we keep asking him to make 50 yarders when there's no evidence that he can. Heck ... let's try some 60 yarders. The press didn't know, but he was actually suffering from leg lag. He's recovering now and working back in to top form. So does "leg lag" hurt aim as well? Hmmm, interesting. He wasn't the kick-off guy last year and wasn't slotted to kick-off this year either. Remember, he wasn't announced as the kick-off guy at CSU. I know he was in a fight just to keep his kicking job at all, so let's hope your "leg lag" is right so we get some production out of him soon. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 30, 2017 18:43:47 GMT -8
The press didn't know, but he was actually suffering from leg lag. He's recovering now and working back in to top form. So does "leg lag" hurt aim as well? Hmmm, interesting. He wasn't the kick-off guy last year and wasn't slotted to kick-off this year either. Remember, he wasn't announced as the kick-off guy at CSU. I know he was in a fight just to keep his kicking job at all, so let's hope your "leg lag" is right so we get some production out of him soon. Of course it does! C'mon man. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 30, 2017 20:06:42 GMT -8
The 52-yarders were not off-target. They were right down the middle, just several yards short. Otherwise he has made every field goal (5) since we changed snappers after two misses @ USC.
His kickoffs against Colorado and Stanford were fine. Our opponents had 123 yards on 7 returns in the Stanford and Colorado games and he had two touchbacks in three attempts against Stanford. The other one went into the EZ and was returned for only 19 yards.
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Post by kersting13 on Oct 30, 2017 20:24:17 GMT -8
The 52-yarders were not off-target. They were right down the middle, just several yards short. Otherwise he has made every field goal (5) since we changed snappers after two misses @ USC. His kickoffs against Colorado and Stanford were fine. Our opponents had 123 yards on 7 returns in the Stanford and Colorado games and he had two touchbacks in three attempts against Stanford. The other one went into the EZ and was returned for only 19 yards. There were multiple high snaps in the Stanford game. SaveSave |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 31, 2017 9:44:40 GMT -8
There were multiple high snaps in the Stanford game.
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You keep mentioning this. I don't see it. What I see are results.
Before snapper change: 2-6, one blocked for sure.
After snapper change: 5-7, no blocks, kicks that were just short were right on target.
Jethro Gibbs' Rule 39: There is no such thing as coincidence.
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 31, 2017 9:59:38 GMT -8
His miss was a yard short this last game, and dead center. I suspect that he has 5 more yards in the leg; all the same, I would like AR to be there to kick those long ones. What in the world leads you to believe he has +50 in his leg? He's 8 of 14 in FGs in his two years with a career long of 40. I just don't get why we keep asking him to make 50 yarders when there's no evidence that he can. Heck ... let's try some 60 yarders. His miss Thursday was a yard short, aka 51 yards. |
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