2ndGenBeaver
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Oct 31, 2017 23:21:46 GMT -8
One thing that fascinates me in sports is the "what if" game, and how that is an analogy for life.... What if Nall hangs on to the ball? The narrative would be much different: www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom103117/bottom-10-oh-horrors-florida-gatorsInstead we get: "... just rewatch the fourth quarter of the Beavers' game against Stanford. I'm pretty sure it was directed by Wes Craven." (I also vaguely remember another Stanford game, this one a season opener (I think) where another fumble (this one popped out of the end zone) was a game losing play for us. Ugh! What is it with us and Stanford and fumbles??) Just like in those "almost Rose Bowl years", the "what if" is of course 'what if we had broken through one of those seasons?". Reser would have been done, MR wouldn't have, etc. etc. But if wishes were fishes..... Anyway, this article actually pointed out to me how far Baylor has fallen (I don't follow a lot of CFB when the Beavers aren't doing well......), though I think they may have dug their own hole..... Go Beavers! |
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Post by beavobill on Nov 1, 2017 3:26:53 GMT -8
Darryl Catchings fumble kept us out of the Rose Bowl that year.
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Post by bill82 on Nov 1, 2017 3:35:46 GMT -8
In the 80's the only way I could get news about the Beavers in Sacramento was to go the State library put in a request for back issues of the Oregonian. I'd wait fifteen or twenty minutes and the clerk would wheel one or two weeks of papers to my table. In between my visits to the library, the only other news I would get about the football team came from the Bottom 10 column every paper seemed to carry. I could always count on the Beavs to have a place (along with UTEP) and a cruel comment about their ineptitude.
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 1, 2017 4:42:45 GMT -8
One thing that fascinates me in sports is the "what if" game, and how that is an analogy for life.... What if Nall hangs on to the ball? The narrative would be much different: www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom103117/bottom-10-oh-horrors-florida-gatorsInstead we get: "... just rewatch the fourth quarter of the Beavers' game against Stanford. I'm pretty sure it was directed by Wes Craven." (I also vaguely remember another Stanford game, this one a season opener (I think) where another fumble (this one popped out of the end zone) was a game losing play for us. Ugh! What is it with us and Stanford and fumbles??) Just like in those "almost Rose Bowl years", the "what if" is of course 'what if we had broken through one of those seasons?". Reser would have been done, MR wouldn't have, etc. etc. But if wishes were fishes..... Anyway, this article actually pointed out to me how far Baylor has fallen (I don't follow a lot of CFB when the Beavers aren't doing well......), though I think they may have dug their own hole..... Go Beavers! as great as mach 7 was/is, if he catches that pass from Mannion in Eugene..... |
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Post by beaverdude on Nov 1, 2017 7:30:30 GMT -8
Look at the bright side..... We're ranked again...  |
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Post by jefframp on Nov 1, 2017 7:35:27 GMT -8
Darryl Catchings fumble kept us out of the Rose Bowl that year. We were 8 points behind so his fumble cost us a chance of tying Stanford. I remember slamming the metal bench so hard with my hand when that happened that it scared all the folks sitting in our section. |
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Post by fumblerooski on Nov 1, 2017 7:47:18 GMT -8
One thing that fascinates me in sports is the "what if" game, and how that is an analogy for life.... What if Nall hangs on to the ball? The narrative would be much different: www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom103117/bottom-10-oh-horrors-florida-gatorsInstead we get: "... just rewatch the fourth quarter of the Beavers' game against Stanford. I'm pretty sure it was directed by Wes Craven." (I also vaguely remember another Stanford game, this one a season opener (I think) where another fumble (this one popped out of the end zone) was a game losing play for us. Ugh! What is it with us and Stanford and fumbles??) Just like in those "almost Rose Bowl years", the "what if" is of course 'what if we had broken through one of those seasons?". Reser would have been done, MR wouldn't have, etc. etc. But if wishes were fishes..... Anyway, this article actually pointed out to me how far Baylor has fallen (I don't follow a lot of CFB when the Beavers aren't doing well......), though I think they may have dug their own hole..... Go Beavers! Didn't Cody Vaz have a pretty crucial 4th quarter fumble against Stanford a few years back? Man... it's painful to relive these things |
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 1, 2017 8:29:02 GMT -8
Darryl Catchings fumble kept us out of the Rose Bowl that year. Wrong. Lyle Moevao's backward pass that rolled out of the end zone for a safety and a subsequent pick-6 were the 9 critical points that OSU gave up in the 8 point defeat (36-28). Had Catchings scored (with 44 seconds remaining), OSU would have still needed to make a 2 point conversion simply to tie the game. There were lots of critical plays in that game that, had they gone differently could have changed the outcome. I seem to recall an extremely obvious roughing-the-passer on Moevao that wasn't called. Being 9 years ago the situation is a bit hazy, but I believe we were down at Stanford's end of the field, and either had to settle for a FG or punt due to the non-call. |
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 1, 2017 8:31:02 GMT -8
One thing that fascinates me in sports is the "what if" game, and how that is an analogy for life.... What if Nall hangs on to the ball? The narrative would be much different: www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom103117/bottom-10-oh-horrors-florida-gatorsInstead we get: "... just rewatch the fourth quarter of the Beavers' game against Stanford. I'm pretty sure it was directed by Wes Craven." (I also vaguely remember another Stanford game, this one a season opener (I think) where another fumble (this one popped out of the end zone) was a game losing play for us. Ugh! What is it with us and Stanford and fumbles??) Just like in those "almost Rose Bowl years", the "what if" is of course 'what if we had broken through one of those seasons?". Reser would have been done, MR wouldn't have, etc. etc. But if wishes were fishes..... Anyway, this article actually pointed out to me how far Baylor has fallen (I don't follow a lot of CFB when the Beavers aren't doing well......), though I think they may have dug their own hole..... Go Beavers! as great as mach 7 was/is, if he catches that pass from Mannion in Eugene..... Brandin had a couple of plays I'm sure he'd like back from that game. Not only the pass that could have put us in FG range after the *ucks final score, but he had his own Catchings-like moment of fumbling out of the end-zone that day. |
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Post by beavadelic on Nov 1, 2017 11:29:32 GMT -8
One thing that fascinates me in sports is the "what if" game, and how that is an analogy for life.... What if Nall hangs on to the ball? The narrative would be much different: www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom103117/bottom-10-oh-horrors-florida-gatorsInstead we get: "... just rewatch the fourth quarter of the Beavers' game against Stanford. I'm pretty sure it was directed by Wes Craven." (I also vaguely remember another Stanford game, this one a season opener (I think) where another fumble (this one popped out of the end zone) was a game losing play for us. Ugh! What is it with us and Stanford and fumbles??) Just like in those "almost Rose Bowl years", the "what if" is of course 'what if we had broken through one of those seasons?". Reser would have been done, MR wouldn't have, etc. etc. But if wishes were fishes..... Anyway, this article actually pointed out to me how far Baylor has fallen (I don't follow a lot of CFB when the Beavers aren't doing well......), though I think they may have dug their own hole..... Go Beavers! Didn't Cody Vaz have a pretty crucial 4th quarter fumble against Stanford a few years back? Man... it's painful to relive these things Yes he did. I road-tripped with my buddies to that game. The Beavs led by 11 entering the 4th quarter. First we allowed Hogan (then a green true freshman) to somehow flip the ball as he was being sacked to a wide-open Stephan Taylor who ran down the sidelines untouched for a TD. Then our team got a Vaz-sectomy on the next possession I believe just threw the ball into the ground in the middle of a long run and fumbled it away. What a gut-punch. |
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Post by gnawitall on Nov 1, 2017 12:58:49 GMT -8
Didn't Cody Vaz have a pretty crucial 4th quarter fumble against Stanford a few years back? Man... it's painful to relive these things Yes he did. I road-tripped with my buddies to that game. The Beavs led by 11 entering the 4th quarter. First we allowed Hogan (then a green true freshman) to somehow flip the ball as he was being sacked to a wide-open Stephan Taylor who ran down the sidelines untouched for a TD. Then our team got a Vaz-sectomy on the next possession I believe just threw the ball into the ground in the middle of a long run and fumbled it away. What a gut-punch. I had totally forgotten about that play. Stomach pain coming back... ugh |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 1, 2017 14:21:11 GMT -8
One thing that fascinates me in sports is the "what if" game, and how that is an analogy for life.... What if Nall hangs on to the ball? The narrative would be much different: www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom103117/bottom-10-oh-horrors-florida-gatorsInstead we get: "... just rewatch the fourth quarter of the Beavers' game against Stanford. I'm pretty sure it was directed by Wes Craven." (I also vaguely remember another Stanford game, this one a season opener (I think) where another fumble (this one popped out of the end zone) was a game losing play for us. Ugh! What is it with us and Stanford and fumbles??) Just like in those "almost Rose Bowl years", the "what if" is of course 'what if we had broken through one of those seasons?". Reser would have been done, MR wouldn't have, etc. etc. But if wishes were fishes..... Anyway, this article actually pointed out to me how far Baylor has fallen (I don't follow a lot of CFB when the Beavers aren't doing well......), though I think they may have dug their own hole..... Go Beavers! Didn't Cody Vaz have a pretty crucial 4th quarter fumble against Stanford a few years back? Man... it's painful to relive these things 2012. #11 Oregon State led #14 Stanford 23-21 with less than 10 minutes in the fourth quarter. Rashaad Reynolds came up with an interception at the Beaver 30. After losing five yards on first down, Cody Vaz takes off and runs for two yards. He then fumbles the ball on a pump fake, trying to turn a 5-yard run into a 10-yard run. The Cardinal recover and drive for a touchdown in six plays to go up 27-23 with 5:07 left. Stanford's kickoff goes out-of-bounds. Oregon State gets eight yards in three plays but opts to punt on 4th-and-2 at the 43. The Beavers give up 35 seconds, both of their remaining timeouts, and 27 yards in field position. The Beavers would again drive to the 43, but Vaz would be sacked for a loss of 12 yards and knocked out of the game on 3rd-and-4. Mannion came in and threw a pass an inch or two too high for Hamlett. Stanford went into victory formation with just enough time to run out the clock. If Oregon State had won, the Civil War would have been for the Northern crown. Even if the Beavers had lost the 2012 Civil War, Oregon State would have finished 10-2. The Beavers finished 13th in the final BCS poll, the best 9-3 team in the country. Oregon State would have finished higher with another win. Assuming that Oregon would have won the Pac-12 Championship Game in Autzen against 9-3 UCLA, Oregon State would have gone to the Fiesta Bowl to play #5 Kansas State. (The Fiesta Bowl's other choices would have been #15 Northern Illinois and #21 Louisville.) This is one of those big what ifs, in my mind. What if Mannion had started against Stanford? What if Mannion could have pulled out the win and then had three weeks of practicing with the ones in preparation for the 2012 Civil War? What if? |
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Post by hawksea on Nov 1, 2017 14:33:14 GMT -8
Didn't Cody Vaz have a pretty crucial 4th quarter fumble against Stanford a few years back? Man... it's painful to relive these things 2012. #11 Oregon State led #14 Stanford 23-21 with less than 10 minutes in the fourth quarter. Rashaad Reynolds came up with an interception at the Beaver 30. After losing five yards on first down, Cody Vaz takes off and runs for two yards. He then fumbles the ball on a pump fake, trying to turn a 5-yard run into a 10-yard run. The Cardinal recover and drive for a touchdown in six plays to go up 27-23 with 5:07 left. Stanford's kickoff goes out-of-bounds. Oregon State gets eight yards in three plays but opts to punt on 4th-and-2 at the 43. The Beavers give up 35 seconds, both of their remaining timeouts, and 27 yards in field position. The Beavers would again drive to the 43, but Vaz would be sacked for a loss of 12 yards and knocked out of the game on 3rd-and-4. Mannion came in and threw a pass an inch or two too high for Hamlett. Stanford went into victory formation with just enough time to run out the clock. If Oregon State had won, the Civil War would have been for the Northern crown. Even if the Beavers had lost the 2012 Civil War, Oregon State would have finished 10-2. The Beavers finished 13th in the final BCS poll, the best 9-3 team in the country. Oregon State would have finished higher with another win. Assuming that Oregon would have won the Pac-12 Championship Game in Autzen against 9-3 UCLA, Oregon State would have gone to the Fiesta Bowl to play #5 Kansas State. (The Fiesta Bowl's other choices would have been #15 Northern Illinois and #21 Louisville.) This is one of those big what ifs, in my mind. What if Mannion had started against Stanford? What if Mannion could have pulled out the win and then had three weeks of practicing with the ones in preparation for the 2012 Civil War? What if? I was at that game and remember it too well. I remember yelling down to put in Mannion earlier, and I had no idea why he didn't start the game in the first place. As long as he was able to throw, he was by far our best QB. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 1, 2017 14:42:42 GMT -8
2012. #11 Oregon State led #14 Stanford 23-21 with less than 10 minutes in the fourth quarter. Rashaad Reynolds came up with an interception at the Beaver 30. After losing five yards on first down, Cody Vaz takes off and runs for two yards. He then fumbles the ball on a pump fake, trying to turn a 5-yard run into a 10-yard run. The Cardinal recover and drive for a touchdown in six plays to go up 27-23 with 5:07 left. Stanford's kickoff goes out-of-bounds. Oregon State gets eight yards in three plays but opts to punt on 4th-and-2 at the 43. The Beavers give up 35 seconds, both of their remaining timeouts, and 27 yards in field position. The Beavers would again drive to the 43, but Vaz would be sacked for a loss of 12 yards and knocked out of the game on 3rd-and-4. Mannion came in and threw a pass an inch or two too high for Hamlett. Stanford went into victory formation with just enough time to run out the clock. If Oregon State had won, the Civil War would have been for the Northern crown. Even if the Beavers had lost the 2012 Civil War, Oregon State would have finished 10-2. The Beavers finished 13th in the final BCS poll, the best 9-3 team in the country. Oregon State would have finished higher with another win. Assuming that Oregon would have won the Pac-12 Championship Game in Autzen against 9-3 UCLA, Oregon State would have gone to the Fiesta Bowl to play #5 Kansas State. (The Fiesta Bowl's other choices would have been #15 Northern Illinois and #21 Louisville.) This is one of those big what ifs, in my mind. What if Mannion had started against Stanford? What if Mannion could have pulled out the win and then had three weeks of practicing with the ones in preparation for the 2012 Civil War? What if? I was at that game and remember it too well. I remember yelling down to put in Mannion earlier, and I had no idea why he didn't start the game in the first place. As long as he was able to throw, he was by far our best QB. I think he rushed back and was not healthy for Washington. Then, when he actually was ready to go, the coaching staff remembered that he said he was ready for Washington and did not play him. My biggest what if is what if Vaz had started against Washington? Mannion could have returned healthy for Arizona State and would have had two weeks to get ready for Stanford. |
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Post by hawksea on Nov 1, 2017 15:29:15 GMT -8
I was at that game and remember it too well. I remember yelling down to put in Mannion earlier, and I had no idea why he didn't start the game in the first place. As long as he was able to throw, he was by far our best QB. I think he rushed back and was not healthy for Washington. Then, when he actually was ready to go, the coaching staff remembered that he said he was ready for Washington and did not play him. My biggest what if is what if Vaz had started against Washington? Mannion could have returned healthy for Arizona State and would have had two weeks to get ready for Stanford. That probably would have been ideal. He clearly wasn't ready against UW, and Vaz would have helped us more then, with Mannion being more helpful when he was 100%. If we would have done that, we probably would have been undefeated going into the Civil War. Just like if Mannion was playing in the bowl game, we would have won that year. I'm sure Vaz is a good guy, but I really disliked him because of the Stanford and the Alamo Bowl. |
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