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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 9, 2017 10:44:56 GMT -8
So, uh, you're a Pollyanna it seems. Questioning our new coach re bringing in a former head coach who recently departed 2 wrecked programs, including our own, is not treason Please explain the benefit of questioning the HC's hires? What do you expect to come of it? Do you believe it will make him reconsider? If not, then of what value is it to call into question JS's decision making. Do you think if enough people did that it boosts his chance of succeeding, or cracks the door of doubt just a little? FACT: Coach Smith has spoken. He's made the decision and it's not changing. FACT: To not support it at this point, is to not support the Beaver Head Football Coach. Simple as that. FACT: Either you do not know what "wrecked" means, or how to asses culpability. Maybe both. Embrace the new direction of Beaver Football. The last three years of ineptitude are behind us. New AD, new HC, great new assistants, and a bright new beginning. Please join along in welcoming and supporting Johnathan Smith and the plan he has for the success of this program going forwards. |
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Post by osulax24 on Dec 9, 2017 10:58:59 GMT -8
I cannot believe some people actually think OSU would be lucky to get Banker and Riley back.. Classic mediocre thinking from Beaver Nation I guess.
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Post by nabeav on Dec 9, 2017 11:13:43 GMT -8
For the life of me, I cannot believe that after three years of going 7-29, no road wins, losing 69-10 to the Ducks, numerous high profile players transferring or little used players transferring and having big success elsewhere, we're still talking about Riley and Banker making us mediocre or "wrecking" the program.
But hey, at least Gary Andersen didn't lose to an FCS team. Now THAT would've been embarrassing.
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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 9, 2017 11:22:24 GMT -8
For the life of me, I cannot believe that after three years of going 7-29, no road wins, losing 69-10 to the Ducks, numerous high profile players transferring or little used players transferring and having big success elsewhere, we're still talking about Riley and Banker making us mediocre or "wrecking" the program. But hey, at least Gary Andersen didn't lose to an FCS team. Now THAT would've been embarrassing. Jerked Octopus....looks pretty good and made me laugh thinking of you screen name when I came across it.  |
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Post by osulax24 on Dec 9, 2017 12:47:10 GMT -8
For the life of me, I cannot believe that after three years of going 7-29, no road wins, losing 69-10 to the Ducks, numerous high profile players transferring or little used players transferring and having big success elsewhere, we're still talking about Riley and Banker making us mediocre or "wrecking" the program. But hey, at least Gary Andersen didn't lose to an FCS team. Now THAT would've been embarrassing. You're right, I forgot Riley and Banker used to own the ducks... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 12:57:54 GMT -8
I think its funny that posters are on a message board which by its very nature is somewhere people come to debate/discuss a particular topic and telling people that certain topics related to the main theme of the board should be off limits.
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Post by nabeav on Dec 9, 2017 13:21:42 GMT -8
2014: (3)Oregon 47 - Oregon State 19
2013:(12)Oregon 36 - Oregon State 35
2012: (5)Oregon 48 - (16) Oregon State 24
2011: (9)Oregon 49 - Oregon State 21
2010: (1)Oregon 37 - Oregon State 20
2009: (7)Oregon 37 - (13)Oregon State 33
2008:(19)Oregon 65 - (17)Oregon State 38
2007: Oregon State 38 - (18)Oregon 31
2006: Oregon State 30 - Oregon 28
2005:(10)Oregon 56 - Oregon State 14
2004: Oregon State 50 - Oregon 21
2003: Oregon 34 - Oregon State 20
1998: Oregon State 44 - (15) Oregon 41
1997: Oregon 48 - Oregon State 30
To recap - in 14 seasons as coach, Riley-led teams faced an unranked Ducks team only four times. During the 8 season losing streak, Oregon was never unranked. Only once was Oregon State the higher ranked team. I'm not sure what the average college football record vs. a ranked team is....but I'll bet it's not much more than 25% or so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 14:04:16 GMT -8
2014: (3)Oregon 47 - Oregon State 19 2013:(12)Oregon 36 - Oregon State 35 2012: (5)Oregon 48 - (16) Oregon State 24 2011: (9)Oregon 49 - Oregon State 21 2010: (1)Oregon 37 - Oregon State 20 2009: (7)Oregon 37 - (13)Oregon State 33 2008:(19)Oregon 65 - (17)Oregon State 38 2007: Oregon State 38 - (18)Oregon 31
2006: Oregon State 30 - Oregon 28
2005:(10)Oregon 56 - Oregon State 14 2004: Oregon State 50 - Oregon 21
2003: Oregon 34 - Oregon State 20 1998: Oregon State 44 - (15) Oregon 41
1997: Oregon 48 - Oregon State 30 To recap - in 14 seasons as coach, Riley-led teams faced an unranked Ducks team only four times. During the 8 season losing streak, Oregon was never unranked. Only once was Oregon State the higher ranked team. I'm not sure what the average college football record vs. a ranked team is....but I'll bet it's not much more than 25% or so. You do understand that being lower ranked than Oregon for all that time doesn't exactly make Riley look better right? Last time I checked the job of a HC at OSU is to be higher ranked/better than your opponents. At the very least you should be higher ranked/better more than once every fourteen years. But maybe I have those expectations wrong? |
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Post by ElBeavoLoco on Dec 9, 2017 14:28:09 GMT -8
So, uh, you're a Pollyanna it seems. Questioning our new coach re bringing in a former head coach who recently departed 2 wrecked programs, including our own, is not treason Please explain the benefit of questioning the HC's hires? What do you expect to come of it? Do you believe it will make him reconsider? If not, then of what value is it to call into question JS's decision making. Do you think if enough people did that it boosts his chance of succeeding, or cracks the door of doubt just a little? FACT: Coach Smith has spoken. He's made the decision and it's not changing. FACT: To not support it at this point, is to not support the Beaver Head Football Coach. Simple as that. FACT: Either you do not know what "wrecked" means, or how to asses culpability. Maybe both. Embrace the new direction of Beaver Football. The last three years of ineptitude are behind us. New AD, new HC, great new assistants, and a bright new beginning. Please join along in welcoming and supporting Johnathan Smith and the plan he has for the success of this program going forwards. Get ahold of yourself. You sound like Dwight Schrute. Since when is questioning the guy in charge off limits? I didn't realize this was Soviet Russia. I'll get on the first train to the gulag. My bad. Pfft. |
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Post by ElBeavoLoco on Dec 9, 2017 14:33:32 GMT -8
2014: (3)Oregon 47 - Oregon State 19 2013:(12)Oregon 36 - Oregon State 35 2012: (5)Oregon 48 - (16) Oregon State 24 2011: (9)Oregon 49 - Oregon State 21 2010: (1)Oregon 37 - Oregon State 20 2009: (7)Oregon 37 - (13)Oregon State 33 2008:(19)Oregon 65 - (17)Oregon State 38 2007: Oregon State 38 - (18)Oregon 31
2006: Oregon State 30 - Oregon 28
2005:(10)Oregon 56 - Oregon State 14 2004: Oregon State 50 - Oregon 21
2003: Oregon 34 - Oregon State 20 1998: Oregon State 44 - (15) Oregon 41
1997: Oregon 48 - Oregon State 30 To recap - in 14 seasons as coach, Riley-led teams faced an unranked Ducks team only four times. During the 8 season losing streak, Oregon was never unranked. Only once was Oregon State the higher ranked team. I'm not sure what the average college football record vs. a ranked team is....but I'll bet it's not much more than 25% or so. You do understand that being lower ranked than Oregon for all that time doesn't exactly make Riley look better right? Last time I checked the job of a HC at OSU is to be higher ranked/better than your opponents. At the very least you should be higher ranked/better more than once every fourteen years. But maybe I have those expectations wrong? So much truth here. The only way one can defend Riley is to say foolish irrational stuff like that. |
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Post by nabeav on Dec 9, 2017 14:40:49 GMT -8
You do understand that being lower ranked than Oregon for all that time doesn't exactly make Riley look better right? Last time I checked the job of a HC at OSU is to be higher ranked/better than your opponents. At the very least you should be higher ranked/better more than once every fourteen years. But maybe I have those expectations wrong? So much truth here. The only way one can defend Riley is to say foolish irrational stuff like that. . What is irrational are your expectations for the program. Oregon State has been ranked in the top ten twice in the past 40 years or so, and y’all expect that on a yearly basis. |
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Post by Aspira-beav on Dec 9, 2017 14:42:55 GMT -8
I think its funny that posters are on a message board which by its very nature is somewhere people come to debate/discuss a particular topic and telling people that certain topics related to the main theme of the board should be off limits. Yah i see how you could understandably want everyone to be on board with this however with that being said you cant control this. If you could do that than we should all be very afraid about the direction our nation is going in (i personally am already worried). We should respect each individuals right to their own opinions. If we didnt have deferring opinions life would not be very interesting plus we would not make much progress 😃 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2017 14:45:34 GMT -8
I think its funny that posters are on a message board which by its very nature is somewhere people come to debate/discuss a particular topic and telling people that certain topics related to the main theme of the board should be off limits. Yah i see how you could understandably want everyone to be on board with this however with that being said you cant control this. If you could do that than we should all be very afraid about the direction our nation is going in (i personally am already worried). We should respect each individuals right to their own opinions. If we didnt have deferring opinions life would not be very interesting plus we would not make much progress 😃 I believe that was what I was doing, I think everyone is entitled to praise or be critical of anything they want with regards to OSU football. I find it funny some believe people shoudn't be allowed to be critical. Sorry if that wasn't clear. |
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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 9, 2017 15:22:50 GMT -8
Please explain the benefit of questioning the HC's hires? What do you expect to come of it? Do you believe it will make him reconsider? If not, then of what value is it to call into question JS's decision making. Do you think if enough people did that it boosts his chance of succeeding, or cracks the door of doubt just a little? FACT: Coach Smith has spoken. He's made the decision and it's not changing. FACT: To not support it at this point, is to not support the Beaver Head Football Coach. Simple as that. FACT: Either you do not know what "wrecked" means, or how to asses culpability. Maybe both. Embrace the new direction of Beaver Football. The last three years of ineptitude are behind us. New AD, new HC, great new assistants, and a bright new beginning. Please join along in welcoming and supporting Johnathan Smith and the plan he has for the success of this program going forwards. Get ahold of yourself. You sound like Dwight Schrute. Since when is questioning the guy in charge off limits? I didn't realize this was Soviet Russia. I'll get on the first train to the gulag. My bad. Pfft. Oh please, drama queen. You sound like the non funny version of George Kastanza. I extended an opportunity to explain the benefits. As expected there are none to offer. Adios, Siberia's calling. |
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