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Post by beavadelic on Dec 11, 2017 17:52:47 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited.
It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 11, 2017 18:10:41 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited. It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me. Separated at birth?   |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 11, 2017 18:17:40 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited. It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me. [Not every player on the team is going to love every coach. This is universal at every school. Sure they all do at first, but a lot can happen in 5 years as you mention. |
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Post by biggieorange on Dec 11, 2017 18:28:05 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited. It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me. [Not every player on the team is going to love every coach. This is universal at every school. Sure they all do at first, but a lot can happen in 5 years as you mention. Ill add, he had a very mixed career at OSU, came in thinking he would maybe lead a resurgence at Linebacker at OSU, couldn't really get on the field and didn't perform well when he did, to switching to offense and becoming a Fullback. So only he and the coaches know the story, but it isn't exactly and ideal one as far as production and playing time. |
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Post by seastape on Dec 11, 2017 18:28:20 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited. It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me. I've heard that he really likes to go after Riley. On the other hand, I decided to check out his twitter posts...he's best at being negative and doesn't have much positive to say about anything. If he does dislike Riley, I suspect that Riley is one of many on a long list. |
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Post by biggieorange on Dec 11, 2017 18:32:08 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited. It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me. Just curious what specifically are his complaints? Or is just arbitrary mocking/trolling? My take is when guys complain, but they can't or refuse to give specifics -then that is just sour grapes. Sports are competitive, it is winners and losers very day, I understand being salty. Its o.k. For example: I know Big Suke has had his issues with coaches and his time at BYU, but he talked about VERY specific issues that rubbed him the wrong way. My 2 cents, Ill take the legions of very sucessful guys who love Mike Riley over a guy that couldn't get on or stay on the field, ...unless he can give me specifics. |
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Post by beavadelic on Dec 11, 2017 20:29:35 GMT -8
I don’t if anyone has heard him on The Fan, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the 16 fans who voted that they weren’t happy with Riley’s return. Every once in a while he gets the mike, and if Riley is brought up, he never misses the chance to mock or disparage him. This is weird to me, because I’ve known dozens of players who played for Riley and they all respected him greatly. From honoring schollies for 4 years after guys had to medically retire to investing in the kids as people to dealing honestly with them to coaching them up to play at the next level, he’s been highly respected. It’s also weird because Will’s brother Andy was one of the recipients of that generosity when his career was short-circuited. It seems like a personal deal. I know that Will was a mediocre (at best) college player and guys can get upset when their self-assessment is greater than the coaches. Maybe there was something that he didn’t agree with and he’s just bitter. It just always bugs me to see alums be so cynical, and you’d have a hard time identifying him as a Beaver fan. He tends to be sarcastic and critical when he talks about OSU. Sad to me. Just curious what specifically are his complaints? Or is just arbitrary mocking/trolling? My take is when guys complain, but they can't or refuse to give specifics -then that is just sour grapes. Sports are competitive, it is winners and losers very day, I understand being salty. Its o.k. For example: I know Big Suke has had his issues with coaches and his time at BYU, but he talked about VERY specific issues that rubbed him the wrong way. My 2 cents, Ill take the legions of very sucessful guys who love Mike Riley over a guy that couldn't get on or stay on the field, ...unless he can give me specifics. Most of the mockery would just seem good-natured fun - like imitating the “aw shucks” demeanor, if it wasn’t followed directly by almost a gleeful conversation about the terrible job he did at Nebraska and anticipating his pending firing. Tonight, he made a statement along the lines of “mark my words, Riley will say to Smith ‘you should hang onto that Hall, he’s a glue guy”. Smith will do it, and it will be the first step toward making Riley the real coach of the team”. Totally paraphrased, but it was an annoying leap of pessimism, totally negating JS’s authority, judgement and legitimacy as a leader. I haven’t heard anything like it from any of the other former OSU players that have weighed in on this hire. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 11, 2017 22:01:11 GMT -8
On Riley suggesting keep Hall - Did Riley retain "glue" coaches from Pettibone, Erickson or Pellini? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm having a tough time finding coaching rosters from the earlier years. I'm not sure keeping any holdovers is part of Riley's MO.
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 12, 2017 8:46:00 GMT -8
On Riley suggesting keep Hall - Did Riley retain "glue" coaches from Pettibone, Erickson or Pellini? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm having a tough time finding coaching rosters from the earlier years. I'm not sure keeping any holdovers is part of Riley's MO. Someone with a better recall than me can probably chime in, but I seem to recall Riley keeping one of Pellini's assistants, and I thought at least one Erickson coach stayed on (Newhouse?). I don't recall any Pettibone holdovers. |
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Post by orangeattack on Dec 12, 2017 8:49:17 GMT -8
On Riley suggesting keep Hall - Did Riley retain "glue" coaches from Pettibone, Erickson or Pellini? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm having a tough time finding coaching rosters from the earlier years. I'm not sure keeping any holdovers is part of Riley's MO. maybe a little different since Newhouse worked for Riley during his first stint at OSU but he was retained from Erickson's staff. |
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Post by OSUprof on Dec 12, 2017 9:03:38 GMT -8
Mike Riley interviewed players when he first arrived on the OSU campus to gauge the nature of the program. From these interviews, he determined that he needed a total makeover of the program because of losing culture that was extant at the time - he had to teach the players to be winners. As a result, Riley did not retain any of Pettibone's staff including Bronco Mendenhall.
Given what we've seen and heard about the toxic culture in the OSU football program, there is no way that Riley is suggesting that Hall be kept on staff given his past experiences with a program makeover at OSU. Folks seem to be worried that Riley has been hired as an assistant coach yet there seems to be very little concern that we might be retaining a coach that was part of this toxic culture and led the program for 6 games. Look at the post-game comments by the players following the Civil War about how the coaches did not prepare them for the game.
If I'm advising Smith, I'm telling him to clean house including Hall and start over.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 12, 2017 9:37:43 GMT -8
On Riley suggesting keep Hall - Did Riley retain "glue" coaches from Pettibone, Erickson or Pellini? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm having a tough time finding coaching rosters from the earlier years. I'm not sure keeping any holdovers is part of Riley's MO. Someone with a better recall than me can probably chime in, but I seem to recall Riley keeping one of Pellini's assistants, and I thought at least one Erickson coach stayed on (Newhouse?). I don't recall any Pettibone holdovers. The list of Nebraska coaches I found for 2015 said all coaches were 1st year at Nebraska. I'm not sure it was a complete list though. As someone mentioned earlier, Newhouse was actually Riley's 1st DC here so I wouldn't consider him a holdover from Erickson. |
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Post by thomasg86 on Dec 12, 2017 10:18:39 GMT -8
I heard this yesterday as well. Seemed like sour grapes. Apparently they are going to expand on it more during the show today as they ran out of time yesterday. Will be interesting to hear what he has to say.
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