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Post by beavergeuse on Dec 15, 2017 13:52:44 GMT -8
So I got my season ticket renewal today and was shocked at some of the numbers.
Of the PAC12 institutions OSU has the least number of donors at 4,532. ASU has 16,210 while WSU has 7,714 and Phill Knight University has 7,500
Of annual donations OSU is ranked 10th at 8.8 million besting only Utah at 8.0 million and WSU at 5.9 million. ASU while having the most donors, barely edges OSU by .1 million
So when you look at the unfinished West side or complain about not getting the top recruits it might just be due to some of those on this board and others like it. If everyone on this board, angrybeavs.com, pure-orange, etc. gave 2,000 You could see a difference.
If your donation isn't in the 2,000 plus range you probably shouldn't complain because you are part of the problem. |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Dec 15, 2017 14:29:11 GMT -8
Well those of us who do give are certainly dedicated. Almost an average of $2000 per donor, compared to $549 for ASU. I wonder what the number of donors was at in 2008/9?
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Post by babeav on Dec 15, 2017 14:39:33 GMT -8
I'll guess......more then now.....my guess today, there will be less in 18' obviously not ideal but just a fact.
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Post by prothro on Dec 15, 2017 18:01:11 GMT -8
They'll have to wait a while before I can get to 2K. My oldest is a senior and my daughter is right behind him in grade. Uggh.
At what donation level do we become Stonecutters? I may get there by the time I retire.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 15, 2017 19:07:57 GMT -8
They'll have to wait a while before I can get to 2K. My oldest is a senior and my daughter is right behind him in grade. Uggh. At what donation level do we become Stonecutters? I may get there by the time I retire. As you already know... family first. Just keep attending... use the cheap Stub Hub option. Each supports how they can... no less a Beaver! PS- are the kiddos BEAVER fans too. Any thinking of attending OSU? If so you'd be way over $2k. 😉 |
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Post by SouthernBeaver on Dec 15, 2017 19:37:36 GMT -8
If you are the rich snob degrading the thought of families who have one annual home game that coordinates with the free Generation Beavs game, you are the problem. Instead of being an arrogant ass, just say thank you to those whose support how they can instead of not at all.
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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 15, 2017 20:59:38 GMT -8
If you are the rich snob degrading the thought of families who have one annual home game that coordinates with the free Generation Beavs game, you are the problem. Instead of being an arrogant ass, just say thank you to those whose support how they can instead of not at all. It's hard to judge the actually intended meaning of what gets said on a message board. Every poster is coming from a different place. So I can see how you arrived at your view, but I personally didn't read it as him taking aim at Beaver fans who give less than 2K. To me it was more a shot at the vocal critics who talk constantly about how our expectations for the program aren't high enough, or that we're settling for mediocrity, or harp on an unfinished stadium, or blah blah blah. I think he was saying to those specific folks, if they want more, correction, if they expect more then they need to back it up with support to make it happen not just endless bitching. Otherwise be content with the progress we make and celebrate the successes we have because they don't come easy around here like some other places. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 15, 2017 21:08:27 GMT -8
So I got my season ticket renewal today and was shocked at some of the numbers.
Of the PAC12 institutions OSU has the least number of donors at 4,532. ASU has 16,210 while WSU has 7,714 and Phill Knight University has 7,500
Of annual donations OSU is ranked 10th at 8.8 million besting only Utah at 8.0 million and WSU at 5.9 million. ASU while having the most donors, barely edges OSU by .1 million
So when you look at the unfinished West side or complain about not getting the top recruits it might just be due to some of those on this board and others like it. If everyone on this board, angrybeavs.com, pure-orange, etc. gave 2,000 You could see a difference.
If your donation isn't in the 2,000 plus range you probably shouldn't complain because you are part of the problem. For some of us $2000 is a lot of money.
Not for me of course. $2K is strictly chump change.
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Post by beavergeuse on Dec 15, 2017 21:25:14 GMT -8
If you are the rich snob degrading the thought of families who have one annual home game that coordinates with the free Generation Beavs game, you are the problem. Instead of being an arrogant ass, just say thank you to those whose support how they can instead of not at all. It's hard to judge the actually intended meaning of what gets said on a message board. Every poster is coming from a different place. So I can see how you arrived at your view, but I personally didn't read it as him taking aim at Beaver fans who give less than 2K. To me it was more a shot at the vocal critics who talk constantly about how our expectations for the program aren't high enough, or that we're settling for mediocrity, or harp on an unfinished stadium, or blah blah blah. I think he was saying to those specific folks, if they want more, correction, if they expect more then they need to back it up with support to make it happen not just endless bitching. Otherwise be content with the progress we make and celebrate the successes we have because they don't come easy around here like some other places. It is exactly what I meant. Those that constantly bitch and complain should put up or shut up. |
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Post by SouthernBeaver on Dec 15, 2017 22:45:20 GMT -8
If your donation isn't in the 2,000 plus range you probably shouldn't complain because you are part of the problem. Not sure if you are saying nforkbeav interpreted you correctly, or if I did... but if he did, a poor choice of words. If I did, then this is a problem. Intentional or not, you are suggesting that I only have the right to voice my opinion if I donate $2000, and that by not being rich, I AM the problem. |
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Post by beavergeuse on Dec 16, 2017 7:30:17 GMT -8
If your donation isn't in the 2,000 plus range you probably shouldn't complain because you are part of the problem. Not sure if you are saying nforkbeav interpreted you correctly, or if I did... but if he did, a poor choice of words. If I did, then this is a problem. Intentional or not, you are suggesting that I only have the right to voice my opinion if I donate $2000, and that by not being rich, I AM the problem. Well now you both are interpreting me correctly. I am so tired of the West side needs finished complaints. If you aren't going to invest in the program you really have little right to complain. If you don't have that kind of money to invest then it is high time for you to start putting together a life plan, if for nothing else just so that you can retire one day. You cannot rely on someone else to take care of you and success is rarely an accident. Don't go chasing get rich quick schemes, but seriously, think about how you can move your career forward to where you can give to causes that you care about. |
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Post by bill82 on Dec 16, 2017 7:58:39 GMT -8
I imagine part of the problem is that our football and basketball programs are collectively at the lowest point in our school's history. Another problem is that a good number of alumni are not within driving distance of OSU and cannot access the benefits that are tied to donations. Other schools are situated in larger job markets and probably have better alumni connections. Perhaps there is some room to improve the out-of-state benefits. Maybe there could be two class of donors. I'm assuming that in-state donors would not be so generous if there were no benefits associated with donations. I could be wrong on that count. s/part of the problem
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 16, 2017 9:46:49 GMT -8
I imagine part of the problem is that our football and basketball programs are collectively at the lowest point in our school's history. Another problem is that a good number of alumni are not within driving distance of OSU and cannot access the benefits that are tied to donations. Other schools are situated in larger job markets and probably have better alumni connections. Perhaps there is some room to improve the out-of-state benefits. Maybe there could be two class of donors. I'm assuming that in-state donors would not be so generous if there were no benefits associated with donations. I could be wrong on that count. s/part of the problem The present state of our football program is a HUGE problem. As far as our alumni go though, there are probably more of them and they probably have more money than they did in 2008 & 2009, when our stadium was actually full. If if CJS and crew get the win level back up I’d hope the season tix sales and donations return, but there’s something that didn’t exist 12-15 years ago added into the mix. Cheap big screen TVs, and every game is live on television. That actually is a problem. I’m not advocating for a blackout or a two hour time delay on home games, but I bet it would make a difference at the ticket office. If there was a way to somehow get a new lower tier donation campaign going, without screwing up the bigger donations, so there would be an entire new group of donors come in with an influx of new donations, that could be great. If OSU could get 200/300 bucks each from 5000-10,000 NEW donors regionally (or beyond the region) it’d be a great start. How to do that, and how to do that without hurting the higher donations, is the trick. |
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Post by OSUprof on Dec 16, 2017 13:21:34 GMT -8
Under Riley, the number of donors peaked at 6600 in 2007 and the total donations also peaked in that year at $16.2 million. Both were in decline to the present along with the number of season tickets sold. The highest number of donors in OSU history was under Erickson at 7800 back in FY 2001.
The declining number of donors was the reason for the poorly conceived and executed 12,000 by 2012 program.
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