|
|
Post by orangeattack on Jan 17, 2018 13:00:24 GMT -8
|
|
|
|
Post by spudbeaver on Jan 17, 2018 13:25:18 GMT -8
At least his OSU gear will match!
|
|
|
|
Post by orangeattack on Jan 17, 2018 15:24:57 GMT -8
I hope he does well. Always loved Coach Cav.
|
|
|
|
Post by lebaneaver on Jan 17, 2018 17:28:33 GMT -8
Cav's RESULTS were always "Jekyll and Hyde" to me. Some, GREAT! Some, just awful. Some, NFL! Some....not even close. He was colorful, but a lazy recruiter, as I recall. Syracuse, NY is ahelluva long ways away..
|
|
|
|
Post by orangeattack on Jan 17, 2018 17:46:02 GMT -8
Cav's RESULTS were always "Jekyll and Hyde" to me. Some, GREAT! Some, just awful. Some, NFL! Some....not even close. He was colorful, but a lazy recruiter, as I recall. Syracuse, NY is ahelluva long ways away.. Cav is from Connecticut originally. Played at New Haven etc. That's going back home. I don't recall Cav being a lazy recruiter - the staff called him "the Desert Dog" because his territory was the pacific southwest, and we pulled some good recruits out of Arizona. In fact, I think Cav had a decent rep as a recruiter. Remember, coaches recruit territories not necessarily skill groups/positions. I think Cav is about like any other OL coach (only as good as the talent potential he has to work with), and we had seasons where we whiffed badly on OL. Maybe that happened because Cav was able to coach up what was not considered blue chip talent, so the focus on the talent waned a bit because there were enough projects laying around and Cav was a magician. Whatever you say about Cav, he produced 3 All Americans (Seumalo, Levitre, Perry) and 23 players with All Conference honors during the decade he was with Oregon State. That's phenomenal really when you look at it. |
|
|
|
Post by blackbug on Jan 17, 2018 19:58:36 GMT -8
Cav's RESULTS were always "Jekyll and Hyde" to me. Some, GREAT! Some, just awful. Some, NFL! Some....not even close. He was colorful, but a lazy recruiter, as I recall. Syracuse, NY is ahelluva long ways away.. Cav is from Connecticut originally. Played at New Haven etc. That's going back home. I don't recall Cav being a lazy recruiter - the staff called him "the Desert Dog" because his territory was the pacific southwest, and we pulled some good recruits out of Arizona. In fact, I think Cav had a decent rep as a recruiter. Remember, coaches recruit territories not necessarily skill groups/positions. I think Cav is about like any other OL coach (only as good as the talent potential he has to work with), and we had seasons where we whiffed badly on OL. Maybe that happened because Cav was able to coach up what was not considered blue chip talent, so the focus on the talent waned a bit because there were enough projects laying around and Cav was a magician. Whatever you say about Cav, he produced 3 All Americans (Seumalo, Levitre, Perry) and 23 players with All Conference honors during the decade he was with Oregon State. That's phenomenal really when you look at it. Cav has a lot of endearing qualities, but when I evaluate him I think he is Riley's weakest coach for quite a while. He may be a victim of the system, but the yard per carry behind his line has been poor for quite some time. Over the past ten years his team has ranked 110, 78, 42, 98, 106, 102, 115, 88, 67, and 53 in yards per carry. His team has been ranked 66, 12, 8, 108, 67, 101, 71, 109, 78, and 24 in sacks allowed per game. The sacks allowed per game is a better performance. The most disturbing thing is the longer he is there to install his system the worse it gets. I think Cav has become a bit of a dinosaur and is no longer an effective coach. I have never seen any evidence that he is any more than an average recruiter. He is liked by many especially the players he has coached. This is a definite positive.It has been many years since he has shown statistically that he is a good coach. |
|
|
|
Post by TheGlove on Jan 17, 2018 20:35:27 GMT -8
Cav's RESULTS were always "Jekyll and Hyde" to me. Some, GREAT! Some, just awful. Some, NFL! Some....not even close. He was colorful, but a lazy recruiter, as I recall. Syracuse, NY is ahelluva long ways away.. Cav is from Connecticut originally. Played at New Haven etc. That's going back home. I don't recall Cav being a lazy recruiter - the staff called him "the Desert Dog" because his territory was the pacific southwest, and we pulled some good recruits out of Arizona. In fact, I think Cav had a decent rep as a recruiter. Remember, coaches recruit territories not necessarily skill groups/positions. I think Cav is about like any other OL coach (only as good as the talent potential he has to work with), and we had seasons where we whiffed badly on OL. Maybe that happened because Cav was able to coach up what was not considered blue chip talent, so the focus on the talent waned a bit because there were enough projects laying around and Cav was a magician. Whatever you say about Cav, he produced 3 All Americans (Seumalo, Levitre, Perry) and 23 players with All Conference honors during the decade he was with Oregon State. That's phenomenal really when you look at it. Pacific Southwest. LOL. |
|
EOBeav
Freshman
Posts: 499 
Grad Year: 1989, 2002
|
Post by EOBeav on Jan 17, 2018 20:45:13 GMT -8
Whatever you say about Cav, he produced 3 All Americans (Seumalo, Levitre, Perry) and 23 players with All Conference honors during the decade he was with Oregon State. Schuening wasn't an All American? I coulda swore he made a list like that. He was on ESPN's all-bowl team the Insight Bowl year. |
|
|
|
Post by orangeattack on Jan 18, 2018 17:50:17 GMT -8
Cav is from Connecticut originally. Played at New Haven etc. That's going back home. I don't recall Cav being a lazy recruiter - the staff called him "the Desert Dog" because his territory was the pacific southwest, and we pulled some good recruits out of Arizona. In fact, I think Cav had a decent rep as a recruiter. Remember, coaches recruit territories not necessarily skill groups/positions. I think Cav is about like any other OL coach (only as good as the talent potential he has to work with), and we had seasons where we whiffed badly on OL. Maybe that happened because Cav was able to coach up what was not considered blue chip talent, so the focus on the talent waned a bit because there were enough projects laying around and Cav was a magician. Whatever you say about Cav, he produced 3 All Americans (Seumalo, Levitre, Perry) and 23 players with All Conference honors during the decade he was with Oregon State. That's phenomenal really when you look at it. Pacific Southwest. LOL. Well, he didn't cover Southern California but he had partial coverage in Hawaii (where he once coached) and American Samoa. And New Mexico/Arizona. So literally the Southwest AND the Pacific, I guess. Levitre came out of Arizona. He was like 360 plus in high school and his brother was considered to be the better prospect. But Andy had that natural athleticism and an unbelievable work ethic, and Cav molded him into an All American. |
|
|
|
Post by beavfan83 on Jan 18, 2018 19:03:18 GMT -8
Hope those big boys are ready to Bear Crawl
|
|
|
|
Post by seastape on Jan 18, 2018 21:04:40 GMT -8
Well, he didn't cover Southern California but he had partial coverage in Hawaii (where he once coached) and American Samoa. And New Mexico/Arizona. So literally the Southwest AND the Pacific, I guess. Levitre came out of Arizona. He was like 360 plus in high school and his brother was considered to be the better prospect. But Andy had that natural athleticism and an unbelievable work ethic, and Cav molded him into an All American. Correction: Andy Levitre attended and was recruited out of San Lorenzo Valley High School in Felton, California, a town in the Santa Cruz Mountains in the northern part of that county. His older brother played at University of Arizona. |
|
|
|
Post by orangeattack on Jan 18, 2018 21:32:58 GMT -8
Well, he didn't cover Southern California but he had partial coverage in Hawaii (where he once coached) and American Samoa. And New Mexico/Arizona. So literally the Southwest AND the Pacific, I guess. Levitre came out of Arizona. He was like 360 plus in high school and his brother was considered to be the better prospect. But Andy had that natural athleticism and an unbelievable work ethic, and Cav molded him into an All American. Correction: Andy Levitre attended and was recruited out of San Lorenzo Valley High School in Felton, California, a town in the Santa Cruz Mountains in the northern part of that county. His older brother played at University of Arizona. Ah. That’s what I get for not checking facts and relying on recollection. |
|
|
|
Post by korculabeav on Jan 19, 2018 5:17:48 GMT -8
He became a cranky, bitter man at the end of his time making public comments criticizing fan frustration toward MR at the end of the OSU era for that staff. His olines were average in the end both here and at Nebraska. Cav peaked a decade ago.
|
|
|
|
Post by beaverintheberg on Jan 19, 2018 7:53:56 GMT -8
I too think Coach Cav was on staff too long. The lack of talent and depth in the oline was getting tiresome.
|
|
|
|
Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 19, 2018 8:51:31 GMT -8
His final OL at OSU (2014) included three NFL players, Isaac Seumalo, Dustin Stanton and Sean Harlow. Our top three rushers averaged 6.3, 5.2 and 6.2 yards per carry. Reads to me as if our OL was more than adequate.
|
|
