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Post by TheGlove on Feb 27, 2018 12:52:53 GMT -8
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Post by sagebrush on Feb 27, 2018 13:20:13 GMT -8
According to the writer that picked us, we did lose that "Hall" guy. Don't remember him making that much of an impact.
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Post by atownbeaver on Feb 27, 2018 14:00:10 GMT -8
I'll believe until the day I die you could of dropped almost any other coach in America 2015 and we would have tripled the wins we got over the last 3 years. I will believe until the day I die nearly any coach in America would of gotten the 2016 squad into a bowl game, would NOT of run off a high quality QB, would NOT of blew up the whole program for the 3rd straight year, and probably would of gotten us an 8 win or so season last year. I am pretty sure a good number of high school coaches could of bested Anderpants.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Feb 27, 2018 14:22:48 GMT -8
I had thought 6 wins next year isn't out of the realm of possibility. I figured the other OSU would clobber us and then it basically gets relatively easy by comparison. My biggest question marks are defensive end and how the offense handles the transition... couldn't really get much worse offensively though. I figure Luton can spin a ball, but Colletto may be our starter by mid-late season at QB if he doen't take it early on. How that all translates to the win column is anyone's guess.
Spring practice is going to be VERY interesting.
Edit: my real thinking is 4-5 wins is fairly likely, but as someone mentions below, we have 4 games we probably should lose, after that things can happen.
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 27, 2018 14:51:12 GMT -8
I am not even going to venture a guess.....
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 27, 2018 15:24:28 GMT -8
Well... grain of salt since we lost leading rusher Ryan Hall! Granted the "h" is fairly close to the "n"... 😁
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Post by ee1990 on Feb 27, 2018 15:44:41 GMT -8
We play 6 road games next year. We played 6 last year and lost by an average of 36 points. No team that has lost 19 straight road games should be expected to make a bowl. And I get it, this is an off-season discussion piece and the sky is not falling. And yes I read the article and saw where the dude said it was "irrationally optimistic". Don't be irrational. That is dumb.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 27, 2018 15:58:31 GMT -8
W: SUU, Nevada, WSU, Cal.
L: TOSU, USC, UW, Stanford.
Tossup: Arizona, ASU, Colorado, UO.
Win two tossups and we go bowling.
Even with an absolutely horrible staff, we were two defensive stops away from winning three games.
I'm probably crazy but I think this staff makes us at least 100% better before we've even snapped the ball.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 27, 2018 16:00:30 GMT -8
We play 6 road games next year. We played 6 last year and lost by an average of 36 points. No team that has lost 19 straight road games should be expected to make a bowl. And I get it, this is an off-season discussion piece and the sky is not falling. And yes I read the article and saw where the dude said it was "irrationally optimistic". Don't be irrational. That is dumb. Lol... coming from a poster who's never irrational! Ya... right!
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Post by ee1990 on Feb 27, 2018 16:35:33 GMT -8
We play 6 road games next year. We played 6 last year and lost by an average of 36 points. No team that has lost 19 straight road games should be expected to make a bowl. And I get it, this is an off-season discussion piece and the sky is not falling. And yes I read the article and saw where the dude said it was "irrationally optimistic". Don't be irrational. That is dumb. Lol... coming from a poster who's never irrational! Ya... right! If you disagree with me then I'm doing something right.
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Post by albanianbeav on Feb 27, 2018 20:39:35 GMT -8
I’m willing to bet most folks going into last season thought we had a good chance at a bowl game. That says most folks believe we had the talent to get there, so is not unreasonable to think we are still pretty close even with the players we lost. We gained, I firmly believe, a winner of a coach. If we can address the d-line & qb concerns, I think we have a good shot at 7 wins. Crazy talk? Yes, I know, but my biggest frustration last year was that we matched up with everyone athletically (except d-line), but just did not know how to play. The talent/size is still there, it just needs to be coached up. I for one, will be disappointed in anything less than four wins.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 27, 2018 21:29:59 GMT -8
Lol... coming from a poster who's never irrational! Ya... right! If you disagree with me then I'm doing something right. Hmmmm... so my post was a "disagreement"? Lol.. see, the shoe fits 😁
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Post by babeav on Feb 27, 2018 21:53:35 GMT -8
No more orange colored glasses for me.....we'll be short a minimum 3 wins from bowling....I see 2/3 wins next year with SUU being the only gimme maybe JS can right this boat in 19' or 20' and maybe not.
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 28, 2018 19:02:19 GMT -8
No more orange colored glasses for me.....we'll be short a minimum 3 wins from bowling....I see 2/3 wins next year with SUU being the only gimme maybe JS can right this boat in 19' or 20' and maybe not. Me either. I definitely will refrain from making predictions that are “best-case” scenario in nature. I have been less out there with my orange-colored glasses analysis the past few years anyway, but I did believe that we were trending in the right direction leading in to last season. I should have learned long ago not to confuse wishful thinking with reality. CGA was so unstable throughout his tenure here - waffling and bouncing around with personnel and systems - that it should have been more apparent to me that we would continue spinning wheels. A decent coach is going to steal a road win at some point in 2 1/2 seasons, even if his team isn’t particularly talented in relation to the competition. I will say that the Southern Utah game is the one and only sure deal. That should go without saying. I don’t want to hear Riley-haters chirping about Sac St or whatever in response. The crappy games we played against weaker teams seldom defined us because in the same seasons we ended up beating legit opponents. USU is not a legit opponent, unless we don’t have 10 D-1 kids on our roster. As much as I’m not delusional about the Beavs having a roster full of PAC 12 caliber athletes, I guarantee that our top 22 are much better than USU’s.....and the game’s at home. After that game, all bets are off. As for Nevada, WSU and Cal being wins, I’m not sure what to think. Nevada is on the road - hello massive road losing streak. WSU and Cal? I know they lose some people and are at Reser, but they both mashed us last year. We might have a better chance on the road at Colorado...but that’s a ROAD game. I agree that Ohio St., USC, Stanford and UW are out of our league. We get 2 of them in Corvallis, but the talent gap and losing tendencies recently make them more than unlikely to trip up against us. The toss-up games against the Arizona’schools and oregon would also seem to be a tall order. While the ‘cats athletic department is a shambles right now, and I’m not sure how well-coached the ducks will be, and we are playing them in Reser, we will be physically overmatched. ASU has wacky Herm Edwards, but we play in Tempe and he may be so crazy that it works for a while. I expect that simply because of a much better and more cohesive staff - which will translate to a much healthier team psyche and unity - we could win 3-4 games and maybe be competitive in 2 or 3 others in the first year. JS and his staff inherited a colossal hot mess, and a total of 2 or 3 wins will not be a bad reflection upon them in year 1. I will be happy with a competitive team that plays together and is fundamentally sound, and look forward to building off this. Anything beyond 3 wins will be gravy for me next season.
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Post by bennyorange on Mar 1, 2018 8:24:26 GMT -8
As much as I'd like to be optimistic it's hard to argue with beavadelic's reasoning.
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