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Post by RenoBeaver on May 17, 2018 17:37:25 GMT -8
I'm so out of the loop I had no idea, I still thought the Pac 12 was raking in $ relatively speaking. Apparently not, and not close. Texas and OK $50M in media rights? Yikes.
www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/cracks-are-forming-in-the-pac-12-will-they-be-patched-before-its-too-late/
I saw another column in a web rag opining which schools would land where if Pac 12 were to disband. Of course, OSU ended up in the MWC. Asshole.
Now before I get blasted for being the messenger, I personally can't ever see it happen, or refuse to imagine it. But after reading this, it's clear the Pac 12 is facing huge revenue issues. I'm betting Beaver Fans have answers.
It may be time for the Pac 12 to stop pretending it's the prettiest girl at the prom and being all uppity about it's "academics" and history and football scheduling. If ASU and UA (not exactly the academic prestige of the conference) bolted for the Big 12, the Pac 12 would be in deep caca.
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Post by jdogge on May 17, 2018 17:53:13 GMT -8
I'm so out of the loop I had no idea, I still thought the Pac 12 was raking in $ relatively speaking. Apparently not, and not close. Texas and OK $50M in media rights? Yikes.
www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/cracks-are-forming-in-the-pac-12-will-they-be-patched-before-its-too-late/
I saw another column in a web rag opining which schools would land wear if Pac 12 were to disband. Of course, OSU ended up in the MWC. Asshole.
Now before I get blasted for being the messenger, I personally can't ever see it happen, or refuse to imagine it. But after reading this, it's clear the Pac 12 is facing huge revenue issues. I'm betting Beaver Fans have answers.
It may be time for the Pac 12 to stop pretending it's the prettiest girl at the prom and being all uppity about it's "academics" and history and football scheduling. If ASU and UA (not exactly the academic prestige of the conference) bolted for the Big 12, the Pac 12 would be in deep caca. Yet the sun would still rise in the morning.
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Post by Werebeaver on May 17, 2018 18:12:20 GMT -8
I'm so out of the loop I had no idea, I still thought the Pac 12 was raking in $ relatively speaking. Apparently not, and not close. Texas and OK $50M in media rights? Yikes.
www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/cracks-are-forming-in-the-pac-12-will-they-be-patched-before-its-too-late/
I saw another column in a web rag opining which schools would land wear if Pac 12 were to disband. Of course, OSU ended up in the MWC. Asshole.
Now before I get blasted for being the messenger, I personally can't ever see it happen, or refuse to imagine it. But after reading this, it's clear the Pac 12 is facing huge revenue issues. I'm betting Beaver Fans have answers.
It may be time for the Pac 12 to stop pretending it's the prettiest girl at the prom and being all uppity about it's "academics" and history and football scheduling. If ASU and UA (not exactly the academic prestige of the conference) bolted for the Big 12, the Pac 12 would be in deep caca. The Pac-12's biggest problem: And the direction of the earth's rotation.
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Post by seastape on May 17, 2018 18:36:19 GMT -8
I entered a Google search of "What if the Pac 12 disbands?" followed with "Pac 12 disbands" and got, each time, 3 pages of mostly speculation that the Big 12 would disband.
I don't think it's an issue.
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Post by spudbeaver on May 17, 2018 18:49:56 GMT -8
On the bright side, if the Arizona schools did leave:
1) We wouldn’t have to deal with A-hole Sun Devil fans. 2) There would be no more local media discussion about the “sleeping giant” that is ASU sports. 3) We could stop waiting to see if UA would ever hire a coach as good as Dick Tomey, who they fired for not being good enough.
The Pac 8 was ok as it was, so I’m not losing any sleep over it.
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Post by RenoBeaver on May 17, 2018 19:58:17 GMT -8
I entered a Google search of "What if the Pac 12 disbands?" followed with "Pac 12 disbands" and got, each time, 3 pages of mostly speculation that the Big 12 would disband.
I don't think it's an issue. I'll see if I can find it, it was linked to someone's twitter account. The writer speculated ASU/AZ/Utah/UC to Big 12, UW/UCLA/Cal/hole to Big 10, Stanford/USC go independent, and you know the rest of the story.
As for Big 12 breaking up, that makes sense to me before Pac 12. In fact, that's what I always figured would happen. But it looks like if they are unified they have more bargaining power to squeeze the Pac 12 than vice versa.
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Post by seastape on May 17, 2018 20:22:56 GMT -8
I entered a Google search of "What if the Pac 12 disbands?" followed with "Pac 12 disbands" and got, each time, 3 pages of mostly speculation that the Big 12 would disband.
I don't think it's an issue. I'll see if I can find it, it was linked to someone's twitter account. The writer speculated ASU/AZ/Utah/UC to Big 12, UW/UCLA/Cal/hole to Big 10, Stanford/USC go independent, and you know the rest of the story.
As for Big 12 breaking up, that makes sense to me before Pac 12. In fact, that's what I always figured would happen. But it looks like if they are unified they have more bargaining power to squeeze the Pac 12 than vice versa.
I think I saw that article not long ago...I think that if something like that were to happen, the shockwave would provide a wave of realignment that continued on for years.
I have always felt that in the mid-2000s, maybe a little later, the west missed a great opportunity for a second power conference---the MWC. At the time, TCU was knocking on the doors of the BCS and Utah and BYU were still members and played some pretty good football. Boise St. still had Chris Petersen and was a strong program and the middle-tier had some other teams that could have competed with some of the BCS conferences' middle teams. The bottom teams were bottom feeders, but not a whole lot worse, if worse at all, than the likes of Kansas. If Boise St. could have joined the MWC and the conference stayed intact, it could have been a pretty strong conference, even giving the Pac 10 (at the time) a run for its money in some seasons. That was during the time when the BCS made the cowardly decision to have TCU and Boise St. play each other in a BCS game for fear, in my opinion, that either or both of those teams could have taken down a BCS conference opponent.
Sounds far-fetched, but it would do well to remember that Utah had blasted Pitt off the field in the first BCS game to feature a team from a non-BCS conference and then a few years later Utah took out Alabama in another BCS game. Boise St. also beat mighty Oklahoma in another BCS game, one of college football's greatest games ever. If the MWC had gone that way, the top tier of Utah, Boise St. and TCU with BYU possibly not far behind could have been a strong football conference, and probably not bad in basketball, either.
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Post by RenoBeaver on May 17, 2018 21:11:36 GMT -8
I'll see if I can find it, it was linked to someone's twitter account. The writer speculated ASU/AZ/Utah/UC to Big 12, UW/UCLA/Cal/hole to Big 10, Stanford/USC go independent, and you know the rest of the story.
As for Big 12 breaking up, that makes sense to me before Pac 12. In fact, that's what I always figured would happen. But it looks like if they are unified they have more bargaining power to squeeze the Pac 12 than vice versa.
I think I saw that article not long ago...I think that if something like that were to happen, the shockwave would provide a wave of realignment that continued on for years.
I have always felt that in the mid-2000s, maybe a little later, the west missed a great opportunity for a second power conference---the MWC. At the time, TCU was knocking on the doors of the BCS and Utah and BYU were still members and played some pretty good football. Boise St. still had Chris Petersen and was a strong program and the middle-tier had some other teams that could have competed with some of the BCS conferences' middle teams. The bottom teams were bottom feeders, but not a whole lot worse, if worse at all, than the likes of Kansas. If Boise St. could have joined the MWC and the conference stayed intact, it could have been a pretty strong conference, even giving the Pac 10 (at the time) a run for its money in some seasons. That was during the time when the BCS made the cowardly decision to have TCU and Boise St. play each other in a BCS game for fear, in my opinion, that either or both of those teams could have taken down a BCS conference opponent.
Sounds far-fetched, but it would do well to remember that Utah had blasted Pitt off the field in the first BCS game to feature a team from a non-BCS conference and then a few years later Utah took out Alabama in another BCS game. Boise St. also beat mighty Oklahoma in another BCS game, one of college football's greatest games ever. If the MWC had gone that way, the top tier of Utah, Boise St. and TCU with BYU possibly not far behind could have been a strong football conference, and probably not bad in basketball, either.
All these TV contracts end in a few years, surely there will be another round of realignment. There has always been talk about 4 power football conferences since the realignment trend started, so it's pretty easy to see how some are speculating it's either the Pac 12 or Big 12 that splits up. It probably makes more sense to merge the two conferences, but if that happens, is OSU and WSU at risk of being dropped out of a P4 conference.
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Post by spudbeaver on May 18, 2018 6:13:14 GMT -8
I'll see if I can find it, it was linked to someone's twitter account. The writer speculated ASU/AZ/Utah/UC to Big 12, UW/UCLA/Cal/hole to Big 10, Stanford/USC go independent, and you know the rest of the story.
As for Big 12 breaking up, that makes sense to me before Pac 12. In fact, that's what I always figured would happen. But it looks like if they are unified they have more bargaining power to squeeze the Pac 12 than vice versa.
I think I saw that article not long ago...I think that if something like that were to happen, the shockwave would provide a wave of realignment that continued on for years.
I have always felt that in the mid-2000s, maybe a little later, the west missed a great opportunity for a second power conference---the MWC. At the time, TCU was knocking on the doors of the BCS and Utah and BYU were still members and played some pretty good football. Boise St. still had Chris Petersen and was a strong program and the middle-tier had some other teams that could have competed with some of the BCS conferences' middle teams. The bottom teams were bottom feeders, but not a whole lot worse, if worse at all, than the likes of Kansas. If Boise St. could have joined the MWC and the conference stayed intact, it could have been a pretty strong conference, even giving the Pac 10 (at the time) a run for its money in some seasons. That was during the time when the BCS made the cowardly decision to have TCU and Boise St. play each other in a BCS game for fear, in my opinion, that either or both of those teams could have taken down a BCS conference opponent.
Sounds far-fetched, but it would do well to remember that Utah had blasted Pitt off the field in the first BCS game to feature a team from a non-BCS conference and then a few years later Utah took out Alabama in another BCS game. Boise St. also beat mighty Oklahoma in another BCS game, one of college football's greatest games ever. If the MWC had gone that way, the top tier of Utah, Boise St. and TCU with BYU possibly not far behind could have been a strong football conference, and probably not bad in basketball, either.
Kansas May be a bottom feeder now, but in the mid 2000’s under Mangio they were a good team. In fact, they went to the Orange Bowl one of those years.
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Post by sagebrush on May 18, 2018 9:38:19 GMT -8
Try winning a few bowl games. No 7 o'clock starts for premium games. It is late east of Mississippi and the are no eyeballs. And, a new commissioner might help.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 18, 2018 12:41:21 GMT -8
I'm so out of the loop I had no idea, I still thought the Pac 12 was raking in $ relatively speaking. Apparently not, and not close. Texas and OK $50M in media rights? Yikes.
www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/cracks-are-forming-in-the-pac-12-will-they-be-patched-before-its-too-late/
I saw another column in a web rag opining which schools would land wear if Pac 12 were to disband. Of course, OSU ended up in the MWC. Asshole.
Now before I get blasted for being the messenger, I personally can't ever see it happen, or refuse to imagine it. But after reading this, it's clear the Pac 12 is facing huge revenue issues. I'm betting Beaver Fans have answers.
It may be time for the Pac 12 to stop pretending it's the prettiest girl at the prom and being all uppity about it's "academics" and history and football scheduling. If ASU and UA (not exactly the academic prestige of the conference) bolted for the Big 12, the Pac 12 would be in deep caca. The Pac-12's biggest problem: And the direction of the earth's rotation. I dunno. There's that real bright spot west of Minneapolis. (What the heck is that?)
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 18, 2018 13:04:03 GMT -8
I entered a Google search of "What if the Pac 12 disbands?" followed with "Pac 12 disbands" and got, each time, 3 pages of mostly speculation that the Big 12 would disband.
I don't think it's an issue. I'll see if I can find it, it was linked to someone's twitter account. The writer speculated ASU/AZ/Utah/UC to Big 12, UW/UCLA/Cal/hole to Big 10, Stanford/USC go independent, and you know the rest of the story.
As for Big 12 breaking up, that makes sense to me before Pac 12. In fact, that's what I always figured would happen. But it looks like if they are unified they have more bargaining power to squeeze the Pac 12 than vice versa.
The Big 12 is in shambles. Texas has a ton of bargaining power, but much of that comes from the Longhorn Network and the unequal pay distribution in the Big 12. The Pac-12 is much stronger than the Big 12, but no conference team has Texas' pull. If the Longhorns get going, the Pac-12 could be in trouble. Until then, I would not fret about it.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 18, 2018 13:09:36 GMT -8
The Pac-12's biggest problem: And the direction of the earth's rotation. I dunno. There's that real bright spot west of Minneapolis. (What the heck is that?) Are you talking that big more loosely concentrated white spot. Looks to me like it could be in the Bismarck to Minot area? Not big cities, but there's mining, power plants, an Airforce base and such out there. I thouight it might be Winnipeg at first, but I think not. Probably a lot of high tech governemt secret stuff or a big UFO event going on when the pic was taken, that's it.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 18, 2018 13:09:47 GMT -8
I dunno. There's that real bright spot west of Minneapolis. (What the heck is that?) Calgary, Alberta ...eh. I believe that you can see Calgary to the WNW of the bright spot. I believe that Edmonton is off the picture. I believe that Regina is NNW of the bright spot with Saskatoon further Northwest. I am guessing that it is energy related. Still, that is a lot of light on one pretty godforsaken spot.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 18, 2018 13:10:46 GMT -8
I dunno. There's that real bright spot west of Minneapolis. (What the heck is that?) Are you talking that big more loosely concentrated white spot. Looks to me like it could be in the Bismarck to Minot area? Not big cities, but there's mining, power plants, an Airforce base and such out there. I thouight it might be Winnipeg at first, but I think not. Probably a lot of high tech governemt secret stuff going on, that's it. Yes. It looks like it is larger than the Twin Cities but a little more sparse.
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