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Post by sagebrush on May 23, 2018 14:36:57 GMT -8
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Post by atownbeaver on May 23, 2018 14:55:35 GMT -8
"Rich is bullish on Smith. Loves the guy. Rich remembers sitting in Husky Stadium on a cold, miserable day in 1998 and watching Smith, then the Beavers quarterback, make his college debut. He remembers 469 passing yards in two and a half quarters. He remembers seeing the promise of something that would eventually flourish over time into a magical Fiesta Bowl season and that drubbing of Notre Dame." "All I want," said Rich, "at some point in the season is the feeling I had in Seattle in 1998, where I just kind of saw this glimpse of promise. I see that and it's 'I'm with you guys... I'm on board.'" I think he speaks for a lot of us here... |
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Post by wetrodentia on May 23, 2018 15:03:08 GMT -8
To demonstrate how desperate I am for Beaver football information, I read that entire story. jc sounds like a guy who's going to milk the "ticket buy" into a season-long theme, one that I'm not looking forward to.
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Post by fridaynightlights on May 23, 2018 19:55:52 GMT -8
I have noticed that JC has generally been less negative towards the 2 instate school in recent years. He has alienated many fans of both schools who swear never to read or listen to him again. I think he finally figured out, probably too late, that it is not wise to bite the hand that feeds you.
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Post by NativeBeav on May 23, 2018 20:09:18 GMT -8
I have noticed that JC has generally been less negative towards the 2 instate school in recent years. He has alienated many fans of both schools who swear never to read or listen to him again. I think he finally figured out, probably too late, that it is not wise to bite the hand that feeds you. Just like the NFL - too late for me. The timing of DM leaving was no accident. Many of the coaches, players and fans wanted nothing to do with him after his debacle with LH.
For many years now I have witnessed the subtle, and not so subtle bias of the Portland press against OSU and the love affair with the Kardashian's of colleges - tosdtr. Question - Is JC just trying to stop the bleeding, or is he really willing to get behind the program? At least be neutral? Forgive me, JC for being more than just a little bit skeptical. What I do not see him having is patience. And it will be needed for this rebuild, IMHO |
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Post by sagebrush on May 24, 2018 3:18:39 GMT -8
"At least be neutral"? That is what I would want from a columnist/journalist. If the Beavers screw up, call it like it is. If they do well, likewise. It does irritate me that in two team competition that one school finishes second and the other finishes next to last.
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Post by ochobeavo on May 24, 2018 6:27:21 GMT -8
I have noticed that JC has generally been less negative towards the 2 instate school in recent years. He has alienated many fans of both schools who swear never to read or listen to him again. I think he finally figured out, probably too late, that it is not wise to bite the hand that feeds you. I don't think he really cares if his opinions fall into positive vs negative categories. He's an opportunist, he will milk a story for weeks if he thinks it will get clicks (see Heimlich). He will try to create a story where there really isn't one (Hawaii "recruiting fiasco") and run that into the ground. |
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Post by atownbeaver on May 24, 2018 7:04:14 GMT -8
I have noticed that JC has generally been less negative towards the 2 instate school in recent years. He has alienated many fans of both schools who swear never to read or listen to him again. I think he finally figured out, probably too late, that it is not wise to bite the hand that feeds you. I don't think he really cares if his opinions fall into positive vs negative categories. He's an opportunist, he will milk a story for weeks if he thinks it will get clicks (see Heimlich). He will try to create a story where there really isn't one (Hawaii "recruiting fiasco") and run that into the ground. I think he did say something, possibly, too brutally honest. He mentions in the opening paragraph he doesn't care if Oregon State wins or loses, only that they are compelling. And that there is the rub. He talks about being a stakeholder in Oregon State. His stake is the stories, be them good or bad, positive or negative, his only gambit is telling a story people will read. |
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Post by beaverdude on May 24, 2018 7:42:48 GMT -8
Can a leopard change his spots?
I think he has good intentions but his true nature is to create controversy. He thrives on it.
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Post by biggieorange on May 25, 2018 8:44:41 GMT -8
Canzano is the writing equivalent of RBF. Resting bitch face. We all have a friend like this, the dude isn't necessarily a bad, ill intentioned or angry guy, but his face sort of always displays a certain sort of displeasure or anger so people assume he is pissed/serious/sad etc.
I never get the sense from his writing that he sees any humor or joy in the sports he covers. I can read a positive story about the Blazers or OSU and still get the sense that Canzano is finding fault and looking for defects and cracks in the system. I didn't even enjoy the Colleen/Luke Belloti story even though I felt he was probably being accurate and fair and PS I hate the Ducks.
As an example folks HATED Buker, and sometimes his columns pissed me off, but he also made me laugh and smile, sometimes painfully so. I don't get any of that with Canzano.
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Post by beavadelic on May 25, 2018 11:32:04 GMT -8
I have noticed that JC has generally been less negative towards the 2 instate school in recent years. He has alienated many fans of both schools who swear never to read or listen to him again. I think he finally figured out, probably too late, that it is not wise to bite the hand that feeds you. Just like the NFL - too late for me. The timing of DM leaving was no accident. Many of the coaches, players and fans wanted nothing to do with him after his debacle with LH.
For many years now I have witnessed the subtle, and not so subtle bias of the Portland press against OSU and the love affair with the Kardashian's of colleges - tosdtr. Question - Is JC just trying to stop the bleeding, or is he really willing to get behind the program? At least be neutral? Forgive me, JC for being more than just a little bit skeptical. What I do not see him having is patience. And it will be needed for this rebuild, IMHO The one media outlet that I feel has always been equitable as far as the Beavs are concerned is the Portland Tribune. I attribute that largely to the fact that Kerry Eggers is a longtime friend of OSU, especially of Mike Riley. It’s a shame that it feels like a writer and/or the paper that employs them has to have a personal connection with a school before they are willing to give it equal attention. I am not one to measure the length of articles and compare uo and OSU, but down valley not only is the Statesman Journal sloppy and untimely, but I have really grown tired of their poorly-veiled promotion of the ducks as oompared to the Beavs. Everything from amount of coverage to having different deadlines for getting scores into the paper in timely fashion. It really isn’t a third world issue, but it is annoying. It’s a crappy paper and about to go the way of the dinosaur anyway, but I honestly feel like the average 10 year old sports fan could do a better job of coverage, informing and bringing freshness and relevance. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 25, 2018 13:14:49 GMT -8
Just like the NFL - too late for me. The timing of DM leaving was no accident. Many of the coaches, players and fans wanted nothing to do with him after his debacle with LH.
For many years now I have witnessed the subtle, and not so subtle bias of the Portland press against OSU and the love affair with the Kardashian's of colleges - tosdtr. Question - Is JC just trying to stop the bleeding, or is he really willing to get behind the program? At least be neutral? Forgive me, JC for being more than just a little bit skeptical. What I do not see him having is patience. And it will be needed for this rebuild, IMHO The one media outlet that I feel has always been equitable as far as the Beavs are concerned is the Portland Tribune. I attribute that largely to the fact that Kerry Eggers is a longtime friend of OSU, especially of Mike Riley. It’s a shame that it feels like a writer and/or the paper that employs them has to have a personal connection with a school before they are willing to give it equal attention. I am not one to measure the length of articles and compare uo and OSU, but down valley not only is the Statesman Journal sloppy and untimely, but I have really grown tired of their poorly-veiled promotion of the ducks as oompared to the Beavs. Everything from amount of coverage to having different deadlines for getting scores into the paper in timely fashion. It really isn’t a third world issue, but it is annoying. It’s a crappy paper and about to go the way of the dinosaur anyway, but I honestly feel like the average 10 year old sports fan could do a better job of coverage, informing and bringing freshness and relevance. Kerry Eggers is the son of John Eggers. John Eggers was a World War II veteran and Oregon State graduate (class of '49). John was the longtime sports information director at Oregon State, holding the position from 1952 into the 1980s. John was instrumental in helping Terry Baker to win the Heisman Trophy in 1962. Kerry is class of '75 at Oregon State. The state has changed in the past 25 years. It used to be about even. Anymore, it is mostly green with pockets or orange with Linn and Benton counties being the most orange. |
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Post by NativeBeav on May 25, 2018 13:33:43 GMT -8
Just like the NFL - too late for me. The timing of DM leaving was no accident. Many of the coaches, players and fans wanted nothing to do with him after his debacle with LH.
For many years now I have witnessed the subtle, and not so subtle bias of the Portland press against OSU and the love affair with the Kardashian's of colleges - tosdtr. Question - Is JC just trying to stop the bleeding, or is he really willing to get behind the program? At least be neutral? Forgive me, JC for being more than just a little bit skeptical. What I do not see him having is patience. And it will be needed for this rebuild, IMHO The one media outlet that I feel has always been equitable as far as the Beavs are concerned is the Portland Tribune. I attribute that largely to the fact that Kerry Eggers is a longtime friend of OSU, especially of Mike Riley. It’s a shame that it feels like a writer and/or the paper that employs them has to have a personal connection with a school before they are willing to give it equal attention. I am not one to measure the length of articles and compare uo and OSU, but down valley not only is the Statesman Journal sloppy and untimely, but I have really grown tired of their poorly-veiled promotion of the ducks as oompared to the Beavs. Everything from amount of coverage to having different deadlines for getting scores into the paper in timely fashion. It really isn’t a third world issue, but it is annoying. It’s a crappy paper and about to go the way of the dinosaur anyway, but I honestly feel like the average 10 year old sports fan could do a better job of coverage, informing and bringing freshness and relevance. Thanks for the clarification - I agree wholeheartedly about the Tribune and Kerry Eggers. Not fair to lump them in with the other fish wrappers! |
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Post by RenoBeaver on May 25, 2018 13:40:04 GMT -8
I would buy Canzano a beer. I might spill most of it on him, but I'd buy him one.
Welcome to Beaver Nation John.
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Post by grackle on Jul 8, 2018 16:49:03 GMT -8
Canzano's an ambulance chaser, not a journalist. The fact that they continue to employ him tells you everything you need to know about far the Oregonian has declined. Tabloid format, tabloid content.
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