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Post by fridaynightlights on Aug 1, 2019 18:06:56 GMT -8
I have noticed when observing other programs over the years that when a failed coach is fired and a new one hired there is no bump in attendance under the new coach, in fact it usually keeps dropping until if/when the new coach starts winning. The exception is when a BIG name coach is hired with a proven track record. If for discussion sake an Urban Meyer or a Pete Carrol came to Corvallis season tickets sales would skyrocket.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Aug 1, 2019 19:58:30 GMT -8
Just win, people come back. Pretty simple.
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Post by biggieorange on Aug 2, 2019 7:31:00 GMT -8
Why buy season tickets when tickets are readily available and the product on the field is s%#t? To some this maybe unimportant, but to me the introduction of alcohol sales has made games increasingly unbearable. I don't go to bars to watch games, Reser is becoming one giant bar. The last few seasons as more and more tix were on the secondary market we got to sit with asshats who have no real buy in to seeing OSU succeed and were there to simply tailgate with cheap tix. Fine I can go with that, until the tailgating is inside Reser ALL game long!. BUT, it gets very old when those same drunk/obnoxious folks are not only asshats, but sitting in seats they paid 1/4 of what I did for each of my 6 season tix... with no donations paid. NOW... top that off... asshat, non-season ticket "guy" with super cheap seat drinking heavily. Cuz of course they can afford multiple beers per person and are up and down 10+ times per game and don't give a s%#te about blocking your views, standing in the aisles chatting or trying blocking traffic... or trying to find their seat after beer 6. I hated the sale of alcohol in Goss (yep people snuck it in)... the fans have slowly turned from knowledgeable baseball fans to half only there to drink and swear at umps and the opposing team. No longer have season tix there... go to a few home games, rather travel to all the away games. I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds. I gave it the one year with alcohol in Reser... dropped all season tix. Plus for the next 3-5 years, depending on success and band wagon fans, I can go to any home game and sit where ever I want for half of a season ticket and chose sections/adjust that are not full of cheap ticket drunks. Plus I go to almost every away game as many vacas. I still donate to school departments/programs, but family/parents had some type of season tix since 1974 that I continued on and added sports from 1982. This will be the first season my family will not have ANY season tix. MBB and WBB are in travel seasons, but tix are easy to get and still attend 70-80% of home contests. To each their own... my tix were never based on a teams' performance... held them and had great times and memories all through the 70's, 80', and 90's. But, the combo of athletic department fiascoes/decisions making, Mr. Ray's blind support of the Pac12 office/Mr. Scott, and alcohol sales within the stadiums... I see no reason to buy season tix. Unfortunately I do not see much changing to too bring folks back. Donating and buying tix doesn't really get at some of the root issues at the school/Pac12. When does tossing your personal $ at it seem plain stupid when there are other options for games and places to send your $$?? I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds.
Some of my best trips have been to places that know how to party, large crowds, booze, fireworks, food. "The noise from all them automobiles spooks the Johnson's chickens, they only got 6 eggs last Sundy!" "Those people are drunk and behaving lewdly! Oh my word!Father call 911! I saw someone urinating where my dog usually does, glad Puddles didn't have to see it!"
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Post by atownbeaver on Aug 2, 2019 10:28:09 GMT -8
No official announcement has been made on the number of season tickets sold.
After the Fiesta Bowl, season ticket sales averaged between 20000 and 25000 each year. Sales began falling in 2013 and dropped to 17500 in 2016. Last season, sales had further declined to 15393.
Some are predicting that sales will fall below 10000 this season. If those predictions come true, that is a loss of 15000 season tickets off the high mark. The last time OSU sold less than 10000 season tickets was in 1998.
I'm hoping that doesn't happen but a lot of fans have walked away from Beaver football since 2013. Most of those who left have adopted a wait and see attitude. As one that still has skin in the game - owner of three season tickets and donor, I'd be interested in knowing if other posters are investing more than just words on a free message board or are they hoping that someone else will do the heavy lifting for them.
That university got about $65,000 in tuition out of me between BS and MPH... I have done my bit.
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Post by nabeav on Aug 2, 2019 10:45:35 GMT -8
The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if you're a season ticket holder or a single game purchaser or whatever - if you're a fan of the team, I would think that if you had the ability to get to the game (of which there are only six/seven a year) you would want to make every effort to get there. Watching a game from my couch is in no way an experience on the same level of sitting in the stands with 30,000+ other people. My friends and family are not going to drive an hour and a half from Portland to watch a game with me on the couch. Even when we suck, there's always the possibility that something amazing is going to happen that I get to say "I was there when....." I was there when Ryan Nall eviscerated Cal. I was there when Quizz ran over the safety for the Ducks. I was there when the possum ran across the field. That stuff matters to me.
Do I hate the losing? Of course. Did I hate Gary Andersen? Absolutely.
Do I love Oregon State Football? Yep. Do I love the game day atmosphere? Yep.
Game time, cell phone connectivity, food options, alcohol sales, AC/DC, chairback/bleacher, rain/shine.....none of that sh*t determines if I go to a game. They all are secondary to JUST BEING THERE to me. Only two things would preclude me from going to a game: Price, and family obligations.
I pay $155 a season for my ticket in the south end zone....roughly $23-26 a game depending on if it's a six or seven game season. So price isn't an issue. Family....most of them are coming to the game with me, and I'm about 5 years away from youth sports no longer conflicting. I can be patient.
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 2, 2019 11:17:35 GMT -8
To some this maybe unimportant, but to me the introduction of alcohol sales has made games increasingly unbearable. I don't go to bars to watch games, Reser is becoming one giant bar. The last few seasons as more and more tix were on the secondary market we got to sit with asshats who have no real buy in to seeing OSU succeed and were there to simply tailgate with cheap tix. Fine I can go with that, until the tailgating is inside Reser ALL game long!. BUT, it gets very old when those same drunk/obnoxious folks are not only asshats, but sitting in seats they paid 1/4 of what I did for each of my 6 season tix... with no donations paid. NOW... top that off... asshat, non-season ticket "guy" with super cheap seat drinking heavily. Cuz of course they can afford multiple beers per person and are up and down 10+ times per game and don't give a s%#te about blocking your views, standing in the aisles chatting or trying blocking traffic... or trying to find their seat after beer 6. I hated the sale of alcohol in Goss (yep people snuck it in)... the fans have slowly turned from knowledgeable baseball fans to half only there to drink and swear at umps and the opposing team. No longer have season tix there... go to a few home games, rather travel to all the away games. I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds. I gave it the one year with alcohol in Reser... dropped all season tix. Plus for the next 3-5 years, depending on success and band wagon fans, I can go to any home game and sit where ever I want for half of a season ticket and chose sections/adjust that are not full of cheap ticket drunks. Plus I go to almost every away game as many vacas. I still donate to school departments/programs, but family/parents had some type of season tix since 1974 that I continued on and added sports from 1982. This will be the first season my family will not have ANY season tix. MBB and WBB are in travel seasons, but tix are easy to get and still attend 70-80% of home contests. To each their own... my tix were never based on a teams' performance... held them and had great times and memories all through the 70's, 80', and 90's. But, the combo of athletic department fiascoes/decisions making, Mr. Ray's blind support of the Pac12 office/Mr. Scott, and alcohol sales within the stadiums... I see no reason to buy season tix. Unfortunately I do not see much changing to too bring folks back. Donating and buying tix doesn't really get at some of the root issues at the school/Pac12. When does tossing your personal $ at it seem plain stupid when there are other options for games and places to send your $$?? I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds.
Some of my best trips have been to places that know how to party, large crowds, booze, fireworks, food. "The noise from all them automobiles spooks the Johnson's chickens, they only got 6 eggs last Sundy!" "Those people are drunk and behaving lewdly! Oh my word!Father call 911! I saw someone urinating where my dog usually does, glad Puddles didn't have to see it!" Good for you... Key word... "some"... FresNO... Wisky YES... etc etc etc
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 2, 2019 11:21:50 GMT -8
The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if you're a season ticket holder or a single game purchaser or whatever - if you're a fan of the team, I would think that if you had the ability to get to the game (of which there are only six/seven a year) you would want to make every effort to get there. Watching a game from my couch is in no way an experience on the same level of sitting in the stands with 30,000+ other people. My friends and family are not going to drive an hour and a half from Portland to watch a game with me on the couch. Even when we suck, there's always the possibility that something amazing is going to happen that I get to say "I was there when....." I was there when Ryan Nall eviscerated Cal. I was there when Quizz ran over the safety for the Ducks. I was there when the possum ran across the field. That stuff matters to me. Do I hate the losing? Of course. Did I hate Gary Andersen? Absolutely. Do I love Oregon State Football? Yep. Do I love the game day atmosphere? Yep. Game time, cell phone connectivity, food options, alcohol sales, AC/DC, chairback/bleacher, rain/shine.....none of that sh*t determines if I go to a game. They all are secondary to JUST BEING THERE to me. Only two things would preclude me from going to a game: Price, and family obligations. I pay $155 a season for my ticket in the south end zone....roughly $23-26 a game depending on if it's a six or seven game season. So price isn't an issue. Family....most of them are coming to the game with me, and I'm about 5 years away from youth sports no longer conflicting. I can be patient. And... if you have to have the great view of the video board, less crowded concourse type area... for $205/no BASF ($29-34/game) you can get great view from VV seats and be between the GL and 20 yd line. I have sat in MUCH worse seats for away and bowl games. As the Prof and others have said... IF it's not a hardship, grab some people and get butts in the seats, ANY seats.
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 2, 2019 11:29:20 GMT -8
The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if you're a season ticket holder or a single game purchaser or whatever - if you're a fan of the team, I would think that if you had the ability to get to the game (of which there are only six/seven a year) you would want to make every effort to get there. Watching a game from my couch is in no way an experience on the same level of sitting in the stands with 30,000+ other people. My friends and family are not going to drive an hour and a half from Portland to watch a game with me on the couch. Even when we suck, there's always the possibility that something amazing is going to happen that I get to say "I was there when....." I was there when Ryan Nall eviscerated Cal. I was there when Quizz ran over the safety for the Ducks. I was there when the possum ran across the field. That stuff matters to me. Do I hate the losing? Of course. Did I hate Gary Andersen? Absolutely. Do I love Oregon State Football? Yep. Do I love the game day atmosphere? Yep. Game time, cell phone connectivity, food options, alcohol sales, AC/DC, chairback/bleacher, rain/shine.....none of that sh*t determines if I go to a game. They all are secondary to JUST BEING THERE to me. Only two things would preclude me from going to a game: Price, and family obligations. I pay $155 a season for my ticket in the south end zone....roughly $23-26 a game depending on if it's a six or seven game season. So price isn't an issue. Family....most of them are coming to the game with me, and I'm about 5 years away from youth sports no longer conflicting. I can be patient. And... if you have to have the great view of the video board, less crowded concourse type area... for $205/no BASF ($29-34/game) you can get great view from VV seats and be between the GL and 20 yd line. I have sat in MUCH worse seats for away and bowl games. As the Prof and others have said... IF it's not a hardship, grab some people and get butts in the seats, ANY seats. When the VV seats in front of the VFC were taken over by the "Terrace", myself and my buddy near me were moved to Sec. 18 - a newly created section just off to the west side of the end zone - no BASF, better seats with a seat back than when in the end zone, and for similar money per seat per season. I also agree with the prof - If it's not a hardship, grab some people and get butts in the seats, ANY seats.
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Post by nabeav on Aug 2, 2019 12:02:28 GMT -8
Living locally helps too. I didn’t list distance to a Corvallis as a secondary reason for myself, but I get it if you live in Seattle or Medford or Bend. Distance makes game times, price, opponent, etc way more of an impediment
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 2, 2019 12:22:06 GMT -8
Living locally helps too. I didn’t list distance to a Corvallis as a secondary reason for myself, but I get it if you live in Seattle or Medford or Bend. Distance makes game times, price, opponent, etc way more of an impediment I admit, living less than 50 miles from Reser is a bit of an unfair advantage for those living out of the area. But, if I ever move out of Oregon (looking more likely as we go forward), I will still keep my season tix, and either attend from afar, or give to family/ friends, or StubHub. That way, still supporting the program.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 13:55:27 GMT -8
Why buy season tickets when tickets are readily available and the product on the field is s%#t? To some this maybe unimportant, but to me the introduction of alcohol sales has made games increasingly unbearable. I don't go to bars to watch games, Reser is becoming one giant bar. The last few seasons as more and more tix were on the secondary market we got to sit with asshats who have no real buy in to seeing OSU succeed and were there to simply tailgate with cheap tix. Fine I can go with that, until the tailgating is inside Reser ALL game long!. BUT, it gets very old when those same drunk/obnoxious folks are not only asshats, but sitting in seats they paid 1/4 of what I did for each of my 6 season tix... with no donations paid. NOW... top that off... asshat, non-season ticket "guy" with super cheap seat drinking heavily. Cuz of course they can afford multiple beers per person and are up and down 10+ times per game and don't give a s%#te about blocking your views, standing in the aisles chatting or trying blocking traffic... or trying to find their seat after beer 6. I hated the sale of alcohol in Goss (yep people snuck it in)... the fans have slowly turned from knowledgeable baseball fans to half only there to drink and swear at umps and the opposing team. No longer have season tix there... go to a few home games, rather travel to all the away games. I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds. I gave it the one year with alcohol in Reser... dropped all season tix. Plus for the next 3-5 years, depending on success and band wagon fans, I can go to any home game and sit where ever I want for half of a season ticket and chose sections/adjust that are not full of cheap ticket drunks. Plus I go to almost every away game as many vacas. I still donate to school departments/programs, but family/parents had some type of season tix since 1974 that I continued on and added sports from 1982. This will be the first season my family will not have ANY season tix. MBB and WBB are in travel seasons, but tix are easy to get and still attend 70-80% of home contests. To each their own... my tix were never based on a teams' performance... held them and had great times and memories all through the 70's, 80', and 90's. But, the combo of athletic department fiascoes/decisions making, Mr. Ray's blind support of the Pac12 office/Mr. Scott, and alcohol sales within the stadiums... I see no reason to buy season tix. Unfortunately I do not see much changing to too bring folks back. Donating and buying tix doesn't really get at some of the root issues at the school/Pac12. When does tossing your personal $ at it seem plain stupid when there are other options for games and places to send your $$?? Be a BYU fan then
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Post by irimi on Aug 2, 2019 14:08:34 GMT -8
I know I don’t have a popular opinion when this matter comes up, but there are many ways to support the Beaver football team even if you are unable to afford season tickets or cannot attend single games. One’s loyalty should not be judged by how much money one gives to the program. To imply or insinuate that if you aren’t buying season tickets then you aren’t a true fan is counterproductive to building a strong fan base.
If you like the atmosphere, then try to go to a game or two. If not, support the Beavs from your couch. Wear your Black and Orange. Put the Beaver flags on your car on game day. It all matters. Show the world that we are Beaver Nation.
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 2, 2019 14:56:14 GMT -8
To some this maybe unimportant, but to me the introduction of alcohol sales has made games increasingly unbearable. I don't go to bars to watch games, Reser is becoming one giant bar. The last few seasons as more and more tix were on the secondary market we got to sit with asshats who have no real buy in to seeing OSU succeed and were there to simply tailgate with cheap tix. Fine I can go with that, until the tailgating is inside Reser ALL game long!. BUT, it gets very old when those same drunk/obnoxious folks are not only asshats, but sitting in seats they paid 1/4 of what I did for each of my 6 season tix... with no donations paid. NOW... top that off... asshat, non-season ticket "guy" with super cheap seat drinking heavily. Cuz of course they can afford multiple beers per person and are up and down 10+ times per game and don't give a s%#te about blocking your views, standing in the aisles chatting or trying blocking traffic... or trying to find their seat after beer 6. I hated the sale of alcohol in Goss (yep people snuck it in)... the fans have slowly turned from knowledgeable baseball fans to half only there to drink and swear at umps and the opposing team. No longer have season tix there... go to a few home games, rather travel to all the away games. I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds. I gave it the one year with alcohol in Reser... dropped all season tix. Plus for the next 3-5 years, depending on success and band wagon fans, I can go to any home game and sit where ever I want for half of a season ticket and chose sections/adjust that are not full of cheap ticket drunks. Plus I go to almost every away game as many vacas. I still donate to school departments/programs, but family/parents had some type of season tix since 1974 that I continued on and added sports from 1982. This will be the first season my family will not have ANY season tix. MBB and WBB are in travel seasons, but tix are easy to get and still attend 70-80% of home contests. To each their own... my tix were never based on a teams' performance... held them and had great times and memories all through the 70's, 80', and 90's. But, the combo of athletic department fiascoes/decisions making, Mr. Ray's blind support of the Pac12 office/Mr. Scott, and alcohol sales within the stadiums... I see no reason to buy season tix. Unfortunately I do not see much changing to too bring folks back. Donating and buying tix doesn't really get at some of the root issues at the school/Pac12. When does tossing your personal $ at it seem plain stupid when there are other options for games and places to send your $$?? Be a BYU fan then No thx, would then run into arrogant SOBs like you without alcohol as their "excuse".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 15:13:52 GMT -8
No thx, would then run into arrogant SOBs like you without alcohol as their "excuse". I don't see the problem with going to a football game and slamming some beers, but maybe I'm just a dumb millennial. I'll continue to have a fun time while we have another losing season and you can sit in your fancy seats and worry about drunk people. Cheers.
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Post by biggieorange on Aug 2, 2019 15:45:58 GMT -8
To some this maybe unimportant, but to me the introduction of alcohol sales has made games increasingly unbearable. I don't go to bars to watch games, Reser is becoming one giant bar. The last few seasons as more and more tix were on the secondary market we got to sit with asshats who have no real buy in to seeing OSU succeed and were there to simply tailgate with cheap tix. Fine I can go with that, until the tailgating is inside Reser ALL game long!. BUT, it gets very old when those same drunk/obnoxious folks are not only asshats, but sitting in seats they paid 1/4 of what I did for each of my 6 season tix... with no donations paid. NOW... top that off... asshat, non-season ticket "guy" with super cheap seat drinking heavily. Cuz of course they can afford multiple beers per person and are up and down 10+ times per game and don't give a s%#te about blocking your views, standing in the aisles chatting or trying blocking traffic... or trying to find their seat after beer 6. I hated the sale of alcohol in Goss (yep people snuck it in)... the fans have slowly turned from knowledgeable baseball fans to half only there to drink and swear at umps and the opposing team. No longer have season tix there... go to a few home games, rather travel to all the away games. I do not care what happens at other schools... some of my worst trips were to places that sell alcohol to large crowds. I gave it the one year with alcohol in Reser... dropped all season tix. Plus for the next 3-5 years, depending on success and band wagon fans, I can go to any home game and sit where ever I want for half of a season ticket and chose sections/adjust that are not full of cheap ticket drunks. Plus I go to almost every away game as many vacas. I still donate to school departments/programs, but family/parents had some type of season tix since 1974 that I continued on and added sports from 1982. This will be the first season my family will not have ANY season tix. MBB and WBB are in travel seasons, but tix are easy to get and still attend 70-80% of home contests. To each their own... my tix were never based on a teams' performance... held them and had great times and memories all through the 70's, 80', and 90's. But, the combo of athletic department fiascoes/decisions making, Mr. Ray's blind support of the Pac12 office/Mr. Scott, and alcohol sales within the stadiums... I see no reason to buy season tix. Unfortunately I do not see much changing to too bring folks back. Donating and buying tix doesn't really get at some of the root issues at the school/Pac12. When does tossing your personal $ at it seem plain stupid when there are other options for games and places to send your $$?? Be a BYU fan then Whoa, actually if there was ever an argument for a fan base NEEDING a couple of beers it is BYU fan. You actually found a fan base worse than the Ducks.
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