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Post by giantkillers83 on Aug 15, 2019 18:19:20 GMT -8
Think Reser has name to 2024....
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 15, 2019 20:25:53 GMT -8
My understanding... far simplified... OSU would have to "sell" it to the State... it would be shipped to Gladstone... repriced... then shipped back to the OSU retailer. It would make the beer 3 times the original costs. Local distilleries are going out of business dealing with the OLCC and it's rules. Considering the leadership of this state, why am I not surprised................................They have managed to kill, directly or indirectly, many of the good things to come out of this state.
Question - then how did Oregon become the microbrew capital of the country? I get it now - because the beer/ wine will have originated at a "state institution" - totally different set of standards than coming from the private sector - then privatize the beer/ wine production from OSU under what would be a shell corporation - we might as well get some benefit out of the corp. laws More importantly, how did it get to be such a strip club mecca??
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 15, 2019 21:41:25 GMT -8
Considering the leadership of this state, why am I not surprised................................They have managed to kill, directly or indirectly, many of the good things to come out of this state.
Question - then how did Oregon become the microbrew capital of the country? I get it now - because the beer/ wine will have originated at a "state institution" - totally different set of standards than coming from the private sector - then privatize the beer/ wine production from OSU under what would be a shell corporation - we might as well get some benefit out of the corp. laws More importantly, how did it get to be such a strip club mecca?? A lot of highly motivated young ladies who wanted to work their way thru school? 🤔😏
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2019 9:26:34 GMT -8
OLCC rules prohibit OSU from selling the beer it produces. Not sure about the wine. My understanding... far simplified... OSU would have to "sell" it to the State... it would be shipped to Gladstone... repriced... then shipped back to the OSU retailer. It would make the beer 3 times the original costs. Local distilleries are going out of business dealing with the OLCC and it's rules. Not so sure that is the case with on site sales. Beer and wind rules have been really relaxed the last decade or two to encourage the two industries. There may be something special with OSU and distribution because they have student labor that essentially pays to make the product, sort of an unfair advantage situation. Local brewers, vintners and distillers are allowed to sell on site. Brewers are now self distributing, not sure about the wineries. I do believe the hard stuff has to go through the OLCC if sold to a retailer. I’m pretty sure the only place you can get Canon Beach Distillery product is right at the distillery, at least a few years ago it could only be bought right there. They probably don’t want to make an on-site pub at the fermentation sciences building anyways. Perhaps they should work a new fermentation sciences lab/brewery into the West Side of Reser then sell the product at games.
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Post by qbeaver on Aug 16, 2019 11:48:17 GMT -8
My understanding... far simplified... OSU would have to "sell" it to the State... it would be shipped to Gladstone... repriced... then shipped back to the OSU retailer. It would make the beer 3 times the original costs. Local distilleries are going out of business dealing with the OLCC and it's rules. Not so sure that is the case with on site sales. Beer and wind rules have been really relaxed the last decade or two to encourage the two industries. There may be something special with OSU and distribution because they have student labor that essentially pays to make the product, sort of an unfair advantage situation. Local brewers, vintners and distillers are allowed to sell on site. Brewers are now self distributing, not sure about the wineries. I do believe the hard stuff has to go through the OLCC if sold to a retailer. I’m pretty sure the only place you can get Canon Beach Distillery product is right at the distillery, at least a few years ago it could only be bought right there. They probably don’t want to make an on-site pub at the fermentation sciences building anyways. Perhaps they should work a new fermentation sciences lab/brewery into the West Side of Reser then sell the product at games. That would be cool to have a brewery in the West side of Reser. How many schools can say that? Love the idea...
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 16, 2019 11:49:57 GMT -8
The OLCC will not allow a "brewery" (OSU) or vintner (OSU) fully funded by public money to compete against private industry.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2019 13:29:19 GMT -8
The OLCC will not allow a "brewery" (OSU) or vintner (OSU) fully funded by public money to compete against private industry. Kinda figured that's the likely hangup. One can dream though.
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Post by damnstraight on Aug 16, 2019 13:51:42 GMT -8
But they can make and sell their own cheese, competing against other local cheese producers??
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 16, 2019 14:28:30 GMT -8
But they can make and sell their own cheese, competing against other local cheese producers?? The state doesn't make as much money regulating cheese.
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 16, 2019 15:11:05 GMT -8
The OLCC will not allow a "brewery" (OSU) or vintner (OSU) fully funded by public money to compete against private industry. Yep - as the bumper sticker reads "do not steal! The government hates competition" But in this case, private industry screaming like a bunch of babies - I can tell you stories of how measures 11 and 17 have been pushed back on by private industry, because of the "perception" that the state is engaging in unfair competition - a sad joke, actually.
But back to the point, if OSU and Reser (along with most of the rest of the collegiate football stadiums) do not do something - expect the slide in attendance to continue. It has been said winning tends to cure all ills - I am not sure about that anymore. Does it help? You bet! BUT, the consumer has more and more choices of what to spend their entertainment dollars on, and 50's/60's carny concessions, something that is outdated and mediocre at best, and highly overpriced - turns today's consumer off. Food trucks have exploded in popularity, partly because of the freedom it avails the owner, and partly because they are not saddled with all of the costs and fees of a brick and mortar restaurant. And, as most of us can attest, they have in many cases outstanding food!
Remodeling Reser, without thinking progressively and outside of the box, would be like giving one of the local area shopping malls a new facade, some fake stone, and new paint - without acknowledging that malls are dying nationwide, as consumer expectations and tastes have moved on. Just sayin'
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 16, 2019 17:05:45 GMT -8
Went to the Reno game last year. Food trucks, beer (in cans so it was fast), hard drinks. Too bad the shut booze sales down at 2nd half kickoff, my wife an I were literally 1st in line to order when they shut it down.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 16, 2019 17:13:51 GMT -8
But they can make and sell their own cheese, competing against other local cheese producers?? Ah...The cheese corollary! That’s a Gouda one!
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Post by sparty on Aug 16, 2019 21:18:03 GMT -8
But they can make and sell their own cheese, competing against other local cheese producers?? Ah...The cheese corollary! That’s a Gouda one! Q: What happened after an explosion at a French cheese factory?
A: All that was left was de brie.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Aug 17, 2019 16:50:34 GMT -8
I'm assuming the 50 million comes with naming rights. The Resers originally bought in with 10-12 million or thereabouts. Just think, Knight Stadium, you never know. I went back and checked that a while back in discussion with friend that splits my tickets.... Reser got initial name rights for $5MM in 1999, then extended to 2024 with $7.5MM in 2003.... helluva deal for Marty and company really.
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 17, 2019 20:28:17 GMT -8
I'm assuming the 50 million comes with naming rights. The Resers originally bought in with 10-12 million or thereabouts. Just think, Knight Stadium, you never know. I went back and checked that a while back in discussion with friend that splits my tickets.... Reser got initial name rights for $5MM in 1999, then extended to 2024 with $7.5MM in 2003.... helluva deal for Marty and company really. Mark actually runs the company.
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