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Post by beaverology on Apr 13, 2023 8:28:01 GMT -8
Another former Beaver QB hitting the big stage? Chance Nolan, quarterback transfer from Oregon State, has been contacted by Auburn, who may be offering him a chance to become their starting QB. Nolan, who entered the transfer portal back in December, was rumored to be headed to Indiana, but that never materialized. Now, a better offer is taking shape. Nolan as the trigger man in the Hugh Freeze offense? That could be lethal. Stay tuned.
Remember, Tristan Gebbia signed with Ohio State earlier this year as a back up QB.
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 13, 2023 10:36:24 GMT -8
Another former Beaver QB hitting the big stage? Chance Nolan, quarterback transfer from Oregon State, has been contacted by Auburn, who may be offering him a chance to become their starting QB. Nolan, who entered the transfer portal back in December, was rumored to be headed to Indiana, but that never materialized. Now, a better offer is taking shape. Nolan as the trigger man in the Hugh Freeze offense? That could be lethal. Stay tuned. Remember, Tristan Gebbia signed with Ohio State earlier this year as a back up QB. Did not expect our backup QBs to be a talent pipeline for major programs.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 13, 2023 11:21:01 GMT -8
Another former Beaver QB hitting the big stage? Chance Nolan, quarterback transfer from Oregon State, has been contacted by Auburn, who may be offering him a chance to become their starting QB. Nolan, who entered the transfer portal back in December, was rumored to be headed to Indiana, but that never materialized. Now, a better offer is taking shape. Nolan as the trigger man in the Hugh Freeze offense? That could be lethal. Stay tuned. Remember, Tristan Gebbia signed with Ohio State earlier this year as a back up QB. Did not expect our backup QBs to be a talent pipeline for major programs. Nolan really wasn't a "backup". He won the starting job free and clear. Outside of Luton (who was heavily criticized by some on the message boards) he's one of the best QBs we've had here since Mannion went pro. His performance was almost off the charts until the moment Musgrave went down. I suspect there's a lot of Beaver fans haven't taken the time to think about just how much Musgrave going down going down affected our QB play here this last season. USC and Washington very likely would have had different outcomes, maybe even Utah (remember, the Beavs were only down by 7 when Nolan was injured, it kind of steamrolled from there when Nolan went out). Musgrave going down took a lot of the versatility in our passing game away for several games and likely added to our interceptions as well. Gulbranson would have been more effective with Musgrave in the lineup as well, he was a big difference maker. Nolan's biggest issue ahead of him, whether it be by injury recovery or finishing up academic work, will be joining whatever new team he ends up with AFTER spring practice, that immediately puts him somewhat disadvantaged to the other QBs on the roster. It'll be curious so see if he can pick up things real fast wherever he ends up at. I look at our own situation, DJ is potentially a great QB, he certainly was a great recruit, but it's not a lock that he's our starter this next season and even less of a lock if he'd not have been here this spring.
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Post by TheGlove on Apr 13, 2023 11:35:26 GMT -8
Another former Beaver QB hitting the big stage? Chance Nolan, quarterback transfer from Oregon State, has been contacted by Auburn, who may be offering him a chance to become their starting QB. Nolan, who entered the transfer portal back in December, was rumored to be headed to Indiana, but that never materialized. Now, a better offer is taking shape. Nolan as the trigger man in the Hugh Freeze offense? That could be lethal. Stay tuned. Remember, Tristan Gebbia signed with Ohio State earlier this year as a back up QB. Did not expect our backup QBs to be a talent pipeline for major programs. My guess is the Gebbia won’t see the field much at tOSU. Nolan…same. I loved his grit and running ability, but he was pretty inconsistent here. I hope he’s fully recovered from his injury, gets the starting job at Auburn, and kicks ass.
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 13, 2023 12:08:13 GMT -8
Did not expect our backup QBs to be a talent pipeline for major programs. Nolan really wasn't a "backup". He won the starting job free and clear. Outside of Luton (who was heavily criticized by some on the message boards) he's one of the best QBs we've had here since Mannion went pro. His performance was almost off the charts until the moment Musgrave went down. I suspect there's a lot of Beaver fans haven't taken the time to think about just how much Musgrave going down going down affected our QB play here this last season. USC and Washington very likely would have had different outcomes, maybe even Utah (remember, the Beavs were only down by 7 when Nolan was injured, it kind of steamrolled from there when Nolan went out). Musgrave going down took a lot of the versatility in our passing game away for several games and likely added to our interceptions as well. Gulbranson would have been more effective with Musgrave in the lineup as well, he was a big difference maker. Nolan's biggest issue ahead of him, whether it be by injury recovery or finishing up academic work, will be joining whatever new team he ends up with AFTER spring practice, that immediately puts him somewhat disadvantaged to the other QBs on the roster. It'll be curious so see if he can pick up things real fast wherever he ends up at. I look at our own situation, DJ is potentially a great QB, he certainly was a great recruit, but it's not a lock that he's our starter this next season and even less of a lock if he'd not have been here this spring. Look, I liked Chance as much as anybody. But "off the charts?" Come on. In his last 2 games he had Zero TDs and 6 picks, the last was a Pick-Six (!) before he got pulled at the end of the 1st Quarter. Maybe that's what you meant about off the charts. 6 picks in 5 quarters with no TD's should qualify. You've got to take better care of the ball than that. HOnestly cost us the win against USC. I do hope he gets another shot somewhere, and that he's learned that valuable lesson.
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Post by obf on Apr 13, 2023 12:30:13 GMT -8
Off the charts works in both directions
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Post by beaver55to7 on Apr 13, 2023 14:13:48 GMT -8
Nolan really wasn't a "backup". He won the starting job free and clear. Outside of Luton (who was heavily criticized by some on the message boards) he's one of the best QBs we've had here since Mannion went pro. His performance was almost off the charts until the moment Musgrave went down. I suspect there's a lot of Beaver fans haven't taken the time to think about just how much Musgrave going down going down affected our QB play here this last season. USC and Washington very likely would have had different outcomes, maybe even Utah (remember, the Beavs were only down by 7 when Nolan was injured, it kind of steamrolled from there when Nolan went out). Musgrave going down took a lot of the versatility in our passing game away for several games and likely added to our interceptions as well. Gulbranson would have been more effective with Musgrave in the lineup as well, he was a big difference maker. Nolan's biggest issue ahead of him, whether it be by injury recovery or finishing up academic work, will be joining whatever new team he ends up with AFTER spring practice, that immediately puts him somewhat disadvantaged to the other QBs on the roster. It'll be curious so see if he can pick up things real fast wherever he ends up at. I look at our own situation, DJ is potentially a great QB, he certainly was a great recruit, but it's not a lock that he's our starter this next season and even less of a lock if he'd not have been here this spring. Look, I liked Chance as much as anybody. But "off the charts?" Come on. In his last 2 games he had Zero TDs and 6 picks, the last was a Pick-Six (!) before he got pulled at the end of the 1st Quarter. Maybe that's what you meant about off the charts. 6 picks in 5 quarters with no TD's should qualify. You've got to take better care of the ball than that. HOnestly cost us the win against USC. I do hope he gets another shot somewhere, and that he's learned that valuable lesson. Musgrave didn't play in the last 2 games you are banging on. You would have to look at the Fresno game and BSU game stats to see if he was 'almost off the charts until the moment Musgrave went down', which I'm not going to do, because I don't really care that much.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 13, 2023 15:08:00 GMT -8
Look, I liked Chance as much as anybody. But "off the charts?" Come on. In his last 2 games he had Zero TDs and 6 picks, the last was a Pick-Six (!) before he got pulled at the end of the 1st Quarter. Maybe that's what you meant about off the charts. 6 picks in 5 quarters with no TD's should qualify. You've got to take better care of the ball than that. HOnestly cost us the win against USC. I do hope he gets another shot somewhere, and that he's learned that valuable lesson. Musgrave didn't play in the last 2 games you are banging on. You would have to look at the Fresno game and BSU game stats to see if he was 'almost off the charts until the moment Musgrave went down', which I'm not going to do, because I don't really care that much. Off the chart was overkill, I'll admit, but after 2 games Nolan was among the nation's leaders in a couple of categories and very highly ranked by the service that does all of the situational stats (can't remember the service's name, but it was mentioned several times early in the season, that same service ranked Nolan in the top 2 in the conference for the previous season yet some here act like he was a lousy QB). Musgrave going down really changed our offensive output against tougher teams for several games. Musgrave caught 11 of the 28 completions those first two games. The tight end position caught relatively few passes the remainder of the season, including the bowl game, 0 against Utah, just 1 against Montana State, USC and Washington. This is not a knock on Velling or Overman, Velling was a freshman and I suspect his statistical line is going to clobber Musgrave's by the time he's out of here, Overman was still inexperienced, but there was a HUGE drop-off in TE output, and probably blocking as well, the moment Musgrave stepped off the field - it had to effect defensive coverages by opponents, to the detriment of the Beav's offense, as well.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 13, 2023 15:15:54 GMT -8
So this Chance and the "first two games" stuff. So it was Musgrave that made Chance? It had nothing to do with the level of the opponents?
One just has to look at the games vs quality teams. Or, even easier... Chance @ SC to Chance vs SC on his home turf.
The kid digressed... period. Good luck at Auburn. I think most know if Chance sees much time it's more about the state of Auburn's QB room than Chance's talent. Or, was every other quality team needing QB depth just stupid?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 13, 2023 15:28:47 GMT -8
So this Chance and the "first two games" stuff. So it was Musgrave that made Chance? It had nothing to do with the level of the opponents? One just has to look at the games vs quality teams. Or, even easier... Chance @ SC to Chance vs SC on his home turf. The kid digressed... period. Good luck at Auburn. I think most know if Chance sees much time it's more about the state of Auburn's QB room than Chance's talent. Or, was every other quality team needing QB depth just stupid? The level of the opponents? Both of those teams went 10 and 4 and won their bowl games, probably would have done OK in the Pac 12 if they had played a Pac 12 schedule. I suspect we had a couple worse in-conference opponents despite the fact that this was pretty much an UP year in the Pac 12. Level of the opponent would apply to MTSU, both of our QBs had way above average QB ratings that game. I'm not saying Nolan will start at Auburn or the equivalent, but he'd have had a better shot if he'd landed there in January. He's nowhere near as bad as some here paint him to be.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 13, 2023 15:36:34 GMT -8
So this Chance and the "first two games" stuff. So it was Musgrave that made Chance? It had nothing to do with the level of the opponents? One just has to look at the games vs quality teams. Or, even easier... Chance @ SC to Chance vs SC on his home turf. The kid digressed... period. Good luck at Auburn. I think most know if Chance sees much time it's more about the state of Auburn's QB room than Chance's talent. Or, was every other quality team needing QB depth just stupid? The level of the opponents? Both of those teams went 10 and 4 and won their bowl games, probably would have done OK in the Pac 12 if they had played a Pac 12 schedule. I suspect we had a couple worse in-conference opponents despite the fact that this was pretty much an UP year in the Pac 12. Level of the opponent would apply to MTSU, both of our QBs had way above average QB ratings that game. I'm not saying Nolan will start at Auburn or the equivalent, but he'd have had a better shot if he'd landed there in January. He's nowhere near as bad as some here paint him to be. Wow... do 10 wins vs their schedules is equivalent to ?? Chance was a highly inconsistent QB... period. He could be fantastic in short stints and horrible/putrid/wtf is going on for longer stints. To continue to rise OSU needed better and got it.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Apr 13, 2023 16:18:35 GMT -8
Chance's ball security drove me nuts. Scrambling while holding the ball in one hand like a loaf of bread. Throwing balls nonchalantly out of bounds and getting them intercepted before they reached the sidelines. They were self inflicted wounds that any team, especially a struggling team, can do without.
Good luck in you new location Chance.
Go Beavs!!
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 13, 2023 18:27:31 GMT -8
Look, I liked Chance as much as anybody. But "off the charts?" Come on. In his last 2 games he had Zero TDs and 6 picks, the last was a Pick-Six (!) before he got pulled at the end of the 1st Quarter. Maybe that's what you meant about off the charts. 6 picks in 5 quarters with no TD's should qualify. You've got to take better care of the ball than that. HOnestly cost us the win against USC. I do hope he gets another shot somewhere, and that he's learned that valuable lesson. Musgrave didn't play in the last 2 games you are banging on. You would have to look at the Fresno game and BSU game stats to see if he was 'almost off the charts until the moment Musgrave went down', which I'm not going to do, because I don't really care that much. Oh, ok.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Apr 13, 2023 20:19:44 GMT -8
I love Chance Nolan...but mediocre QB play beats USC and he opened the floodgates to the major beatdown at Utah.
Wish him well, hope he gets the chance to start again and certainly will root for him.
But I don't question JS decision to move on one bit (if that was even his decision to make).
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 14, 2023 9:34:02 GMT -8
Auburn and Hugh Freeze. To paraphrase Billy Martin:
"The program is a born cheater, and the coach is convicted one."
What could possibly go wrong there?
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