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Post by fridaynightlights on Feb 27, 2024 11:40:56 GMT -8
This from cbs sports
Oregon State WR Anthony Gould runs the fastest 40-yard dash at his position
When attempting to pinpoint the fastest prospects at the combine, always look for the attendees with a track background, and I typically attempt to find someone around 6-feet and under 190 pounds. This Oregon State big-play creator is only 5-8 and 172 pounds -- which makes for short strides -- but I just couldn't ignore the ridiculous jets he demonstrated on film with the Beavers.
He averaged over 16 yards per catch in each of his last two years at Oregon, and as Athletic.net shows, he was a decorated sprinter at the Oregon high school ranks.
Gould has serious runaway speed. Short slants turn into 50-yard touchdowns in a flash. Running somewhere in the low 4.3s seems like it'll be a walk in the park.
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Post by atownbeaver on Feb 27, 2024 18:49:24 GMT -8
This from cbs sports Oregon State WR Anthony Gould runs the fastest 40-yard dash at his position When attempting to pinpoint the fastest prospects at the combine, always look for the attendees with a track background, and I typically attempt to find someone around 6-feet and under 190 pounds. This Oregon State big-play creator is only 5-8 and 172 pounds -- which makes for short strides -- but I just couldn't ignore the ridiculous jets he demonstrated on film with the Beavers. He averaged over 16 yards per catch in each of his last two years at Oregon, and as Athletic.net shows, he was a decorated sprinter at the Oregon high school ranks. Gould has serious runaway speed. Short slants turn into 50-yard touchdowns in a flash. Running somewhere in the low 4.3s seems like it'll be a walk in the park. When we have guys like Gould and Bolden that pop on tape with their speed and yet, at the end of the day, our passing offense was relatively ho-hum, middle of the pack type of affair, you sort of scratch your head. I have lamented before, we left a lot of meat on the bone in our passing game. Gould has a real shot at a later pick up due to that speed and special teams ability. |
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Post by bleedorange21 on Feb 27, 2024 19:26:32 GMT -8
I remember I thought with the roster and the addition of DJU they would be a ground and pound and play action deep explosive offense. Obviously we know what they actually turned out to be. Lindgren and his offense just got stale and not much creativeness.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Feb 27, 2024 23:19:22 GMT -8
This from cbs sports Oregon State WR Anthony Gould runs the fastest 40-yard dash at his position When attempting to pinpoint the fastest prospects at the combine, always look for the attendees with a track background, and I typically attempt to find someone around 6-feet and under 190 pounds. This Oregon State big-play creator is only 5-8 and 172 pounds -- which makes for short strides -- but I just couldn't ignore the ridiculous jets he demonstrated on film with the Beavers. He averaged over 16 yards per catch in each of his last two years at Oregon, and as Athletic.net shows, he was a decorated sprinter at the Oregon high school ranks. Gould has serious runaway speed. Short slants turn into 50-yard touchdowns in a flash. Running somewhere in the low 4.3s seems like it'll be a walk in the park. When we have guys like Gould and Bolden that pop on tape with their speed and yet, at the end of the day, our passing offense was relatively ho-hum, middle of the pack type of affair, you sort of scratch your head. I have lamented before, we left a lot of meat on the bone in our passing game. Gould has a real shot at a later pick up due to that speed and special teams ability. I was always astounded at the amount of 40-50 yard fades we ran to our 5-8 and shorter receivers. That was not, and never was going to be our game last year unless it was WIDE open, I don't care that we went and got the big arm QB from the portal. Bolden/Gould were most effective in space and in the short/intermediate game. We didn't have a true WR1 prototype receiver that could make the contested 50/50 balls and just put the offense out of rhythm when we attempted it or led to a turnover.
I do think Gould has a great shot at being a slot guy in the pros, and definitely could have a long career as a returner as he showed in the Shrine bowl.
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Post by bvrbred on Feb 28, 2024 7:22:45 GMT -8
When we have guys like Gould and Bolden that pop on tape with their speed and yet, at the end of the day, our passing offense was relatively ho-hum, middle of the pack type of affair, you sort of scratch your head. I have lamented before, we left a lot of meat on the bone in our passing game. Gould has a real shot at a later pick up due to that speed and special teams ability. I was always astounded at the amount of 40-50 yard fades we ran to our 5-8 and shorter receivers. That was not, and never was going to be our game last year unless it was WIDE open, I don't care that we went and got the big arm QB from the portal. Bolden/Gould were most effective in space and in the short/intermediate game. We didn't have a true WR1 prototype receiver that could make the contested 50/50 balls and just put the offense out of rhythm when we attempted it or led to a turnover.
I do think Gould has a great shot at being a slot guy in the pros, and definitely could have a long career as a returner as he showed in the Shrine bowl.
This is really obvious to most people. Don't understand why Smith/Lindgren didn't see this coming. They brought in a big arm guy from the portal. What about a "true WR1 prototype receiver?" Someone like Darrius Clemons, a year ago, could have been a big difference maker for our offense. Anyone know if made any effort, had anyone on the line, close misses? Don't remember hearing about it. |
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Post by bleedorange21 on Feb 28, 2024 11:54:34 GMT -8
When we have guys like Gould and Bolden that pop on tape with their speed and yet, at the end of the day, our passing offense was relatively ho-hum, middle of the pack type of affair, you sort of scratch your head. I have lamented before, we left a lot of meat on the bone in our passing game. Gould has a real shot at a later pick up due to that speed and special teams ability. I was always astounded at the amount of 40-50 yard fades we ran to our 5-8 and shorter receivers. That was not, and never was going to be our game last year unless it was WIDE open, I don't care that we went and got the big arm QB from the portal. Bolden/Gould were most effective in space and in the short/intermediate game. We didn't have a true WR1 prototype receiver that could make the contested 50/50 balls and just put the offense out of rhythm when we attempted it or led to a turnover.
I do think Gould has a great shot at being a slot guy in the pros, and definitely could have a long career as a returner as he showed in the Shrine bowl.
Returners don’t have long careers unless they can provide quality depth on offense/defense otherwise he will be replaced after a few years for a cheaper rookie or someone like that. The return game isn’t as valuable as it used to be in the nfl with the new rules. |
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 28, 2024 12:02:07 GMT -8
This from cbs sports Oregon State WR Anthony Gould runs the fastest 40-yard dash at his position When attempting to pinpoint the fastest prospects at the combine, always look for the attendees with a track background, and I typically attempt to find someone around 6-feet and under 190 pounds. This Oregon State big-play creator is only 5-8 and 172 pounds -- which makes for short strides -- but I just couldn't ignore the ridiculous jets he demonstrated on film with the Beavers. He averaged over 16 yards per catch in each of his last two years at Oregon, and as Athletic.net shows, he was a decorated sprinter at the Oregon high school ranks. Gould has serious runaway speed. Short slants turn into 50-yard touchdowns in a flash. Running somewhere in the low 4.3s seems like it'll be a walk in the park. When we have guys like Gould and Bolden that pop on tape with their speed and yet, at the end of the day, our passing offense was relatively ho-hum, middle of the pack type of affair, you sort of scratch your head. I have lamented before, we left a lot of meat on the bone in our passing game. Gould has a real shot at a later pick up due to that speed and special teams ability. Our passing game was generally meh, regardless of the guy under center and the weapons that they possessed under JS. Luton had a pretty healthy senior year and threw the ball around a bit, but with the speed that we had outside, we should have been able to take the top off the D much better than we did. I felt that we were far too predictable, and did a poor job of utilizing screens to backs, quick WR screens to get the ball out to athletes in space, and balls underneath to TEs. DJ had accuracy issues, and pass-blocking wasn’t on par with our run-blocking IMO, but guys like Bolden and Gould should have been able to beat DBs down the field. It seemed like opponents just resolved to take away deep stuff, and Lundgren was reticent to be creative outside of play-action. I felt that Anthony and Silas were way underused. They both were ballers who should have been targeted 8-10 times each game with an assortment of routes to keep defenses guessing and take advantage of their quickness and speed. Velling had a couple of games where he was targeted and it was enough to get him national attention. When you have playmakers, you find any way possible to get ball in their hands. I have always hated to see legit weapons become little more than decoys in an offense. I hope that Anthony gets a shot in the League, and that Silas has a huge senior year. I wish he had stayed, but I’m glad we got to watch him play here as long as we did. |
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Post by grackle on Feb 28, 2024 12:13:06 GMT -8
I remember I thought with the roster and the addition of DJU they would be a ground and pound and play action deep explosive offense. Obviously we know what they actually turned out to be. Lindgren and his offense just got stale and not much creativeness. Hmmm. I actually became less and less impressed with DJU as the season wore along. IMO, he was pretty much just OK, but inconsistent. A more accurate and consistent QB would have made Gould, Bolden, etc., look a lot better. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 28, 2024 12:16:21 GMT -8
This from cbs sports Oregon State WR Anthony Gould runs the fastest 40-yard dash at his position When attempting to pinpoint the fastest prospects at the combine, always look for the attendees with a track background, and I typically attempt to find someone around 6-feet and under 190 pounds. This Oregon State big-play creator is only 5-8 and 172 pounds -- which makes for short strides -- but I just couldn't ignore the ridiculous jets he demonstrated on film with the Beavers. He averaged over 16 yards per catch in each of his last two years at Oregon, and as Athletic.net shows, he was a decorated sprinter at the Oregon high school ranks. Gould has serious runaway speed. Short slants turn into 50-yard touchdowns in a flash. Running somewhere in the low 4.3s seems like it'll be a walk in the park. When we have guys like Gould and Bolden that pop on tape with their speed and yet, at the end of the day, our passing offense was relatively ho-hum, middle of the pack type of affair, you sort of scratch your head. I have lamented before, we left a lot of meat on the bone in our passing game. Gould has a real shot at a later pick up due to that speed and special teams ability. The defenses (at least the good ones) that we went up against dropped at least one safety very deep pretty much every play. It was almost never there. Our line generally held up, too. There was some bad/sloppy blocking against Wazzu at what seemed like the absolute worst times. It seemed like our underneath routes were either not there or DJU did an awful job of finding the open man. From watching the games, it seemed like more of a QB thing than a scheme thing. Last year was weird on so many different levels, though, and next year will be completely different, so I do not think that it is really all that worthwhile to delve into it. I am personally more curious about what will happen next year then trying to figure out what went wrong last year. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 28, 2024 12:21:02 GMT -8
I remember I thought with the roster and the addition of DJU they would be a ground and pound and play action deep explosive offense. Obviously we know what they actually turned out to be. Lindgren and his offense just got stale and not much creativeness. Hmmm. I actually became less and less impressed with DJU as the season wore along. IMO, he was pretty much just OK, but inconsistent. A more accurate and consistent QB would have made Gould, Bolden, etc., look a lot better. DJU was hyper talented. It seemed like he was awful at finding the open receiver, though. He also had Eli Manning Syndrome. It seemed like he could make the most improbable plays and then he would goof up a five-yard flare. I could not tell, if he was half-a$$ing the "easy" throws or just was in his own head. But if he ever figures out to make even the short passes perfect, he is going to kill it in the NFL. You have people falling over themselves over far less talented QBs in this year's draft. DJU's potential is off the charts. It is just whether anyone thinks that they have the ability to fix some of DJU's issues to get him to that next level. Smitty's inability to do more with DJU is a black mark against Smitty. I have a lot more faith in Gundy to do great things with the QBs next year. |
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Post by TheGlove on Feb 28, 2024 12:39:45 GMT -8
I was always astounded at the amount of 40-50 yard fades we ran to our 5-8 and shorter receivers. That was not, and never was going to be our game last year unless it was WIDE open, I don't care that we went and got the big arm QB from the portal. Bolden/Gould were most effective in space and in the short/intermediate game. We didn't have a true WR1 prototype receiver that could make the contested 50/50 balls and just put the offense out of rhythm when we attempted it or led to a turnover.
I do think Gould has a great shot at being a slot guy in the pros, and definitely could have a long career as a returner as he showed in the Shrine bowl.
Returners don’t have long careers unless they can provide quality depth on offense/defense otherwise he will be replaced after a few years for a cheaper rookie or someone like that. The return game isn’t as valuable as it used to be in the nfl with the new rules. The Shrine Bowl return was a farce and it won’t sway any NFL scout’s opinion one way or another. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Feb 28, 2024 13:45:03 GMT -8
Smith was enamored with "aggressive" play and when he had Nolan and DJ, he had them both trying to "stretch the field" to the detriment of their stats and possibly to the detriment of the team's record.
Most NFL Qb's compete less than 30/35% of passes that travel 25 or so yards in the air. Smith was having those two throw long passes that few QBs can consistently complete and fans think they're poor passers, when the reality was our coaches are calling low percentage of success plays.
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Post by ag87 on Feb 29, 2024 3:53:10 GMT -8
From the first post in this thread, have they done official 40 times yet or is it conjecture? I say this because I think we are overstating Gould and Bolden's speed, especially Silas. I see two guys with serious quicks, but not top end velocity. Guessing, in an actual race with Chad Johnson, Cooks, Gould and Bolden, I see it about equal at 20 yards. At 40, I see Johnson and Cooks clearly ahead of Gould with Bolden in the back. A 5'8 guy will never outrun a 6'2 guy. There's a reason Usain Bolt is the goat.
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Post by bvrbred on Feb 29, 2024 8:00:39 GMT -8
Gould ran a 10.49 100m in high school. Cooks' college time was 10.72. Couldn't find a 100m time for Chad Johnson but he supposedly ran 24 MPH on a treadmill. I thought Gould was timed with a gun during a TD catch and run this past season and had a similar time.
We're talking serious speed with all these guys. In a 200m race I like Chad Johnson if I'm a track coach but 100m ought to be enough to gauge football speed.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Feb 29, 2024 9:17:22 GMT -8
Hit 20 on this punt return and 21.6 on his week three reception TD.
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