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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 5, 2016 20:52:04 GMT -8
If you could have either Andersen or Riley as the Beavers' head coach right now, who would you take? My question is... if BDC and our illustrious Prez would have made the same $$ commitment to MR... back in like 2010... as they did to a fairly unproven GA/staff would we be having this discussion? Would there be so many ungrateful MR haters? tbh...probably.
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Post by zebraworks on Nov 5, 2016 20:53:30 GMT -8
I think the pac12 has better teams than big 12 in whole. I knew that Neb. wasn't a top 25 team despite their record. if you go to their forum and read it is same stuff as beav fans were posting years ago. Some things don't seem to change. The NU fans seem to think Riley will fire and re-hire new coordinators! LOL
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 5, 2016 20:53:40 GMT -8
I don't hate MR but he needed to be vocal about lack of financial resources! Not bolt out of town like a 'thief in the night' when Bobby D pulled that bulls%#t with assistant coach contracts. He had a lot of years to be vocal. 2010 is the year we started getting worked in the trenches, never heard a peep from until he was gone. Publically no... not his style. Do you really think he stayed quiet in the AD's office?
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Post by nforkbeav on Nov 5, 2016 20:55:58 GMT -8
that a 'red flag' of poor coaching, bad schemes ,terrible tackling , and horrible fundamentals. Hmmmmmmmm I can't answer your what "if". Based on what I saw: Nebraska defenders were routinely in great position to make plays. In spite being in the right spot, superior athleticism won out in a lot of one on one battles. Barret threw some passes you simply can't defend. Fundamentals looked sound to me. I saw superior size, speed, and timing win out time and time again. Losing Nebraska's all time leading QB in yards while the game was still contested didn't do Nebraska any favors. Unlike Oregon State the backup QB is not an upgrade.
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Post by zebraworks on Nov 5, 2016 20:59:31 GMT -8
Losing Nebraska's all time leading QB in yards while the game was still contested didn't do Nebraska any favors. Unlike Oregon State the backup QB is not an upgrade. a 4 touchdown deficit is "still contested"? that is hilarious
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Post by nforkbeav on Nov 5, 2016 21:13:43 GMT -8
Losing Nebraska's all time leading QB in yards while the game was still contested didn't do Nebraska any favors. Unlike Oregon State the backup QB is not an upgrade. a 4 touchdown deficit is "still contested"? that is hilarious What was the score? Didn't think to write it down for later use in a thread. Doesn't really matter since you agree with the main points in my post.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 5, 2016 22:22:45 GMT -8
a 4 touchdown deficit is "still contested"? that is hilarious What was the score? Didn't think to write it down for later use in a thread. Doesn't really matter since you agree with the main points in my post. First drive was a pick-six. Ohio State had two sustained drives for touchdowns to go up 21-3. Nebraska got ball on their own 5 after an illegal block penalty. Drive went nowhere. The Cornhuskers punted out of their own end zone with the new punter. Ohio State got the ball on the Nebraska 31 and kicked a field goal to go up 24-3. Armstrong was hurt on the next drive inside the Buckeye 30. The backup threw incomplete on fourth down. Ohio State drove and scored on the last drive of the first half and first drive of the second half. Next two Cornhusker drives were three-and-out. The Buckeyes scored 10 points. The Nebraska drive after that was a second pick-six, which made it 55-3.
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Post by snohobeav on Nov 5, 2016 22:29:28 GMT -8
a 4 touchdown deficit is "still contested"? that is hilarious What was the score? Didn't think to write it down for later use in a thread. Doesn't really matter since you agree with the main points in my post. Nebraska trailed 24-3 midway through the 2nd qtr when he was knocked out.
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Post by zebraworks on Nov 5, 2016 22:31:11 GMT -8
Uh talk about nuts. You're one of those guys that believes the top 25 ranking is valid before teams play the games? only 2 teams NB has beaten have winning records. NB in desperation got a W at home against a horrible Oregon team, barely beat Indiana and now is finally playing a few of the good teams in their conference (getting beat)...
so you think that NB would be in the top 25 despite being not as good as Wiconsin, tOSU, Michigan, Penn ST. and potentially others in their conference?
I'm confident that they won't be there at the end of the season (proof in the pudding) as well as Utah and some of the others that have been up there (also over-rated)
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Post by beaverintheberg on Nov 6, 2016 6:31:14 GMT -8
It seems clear to me that once Tommy Frazier was knocked out the rest of the team knew it was hopeless.
Once you lose belief/hope you have no chance against a physically superior team.
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Post by alwaysorange on Nov 6, 2016 6:54:25 GMT -8
Let me say I don't care what Mike Riley does at Nebraska and I don't understand why the constant praise, criticism, and comparison. We have a new coach and a new staff. Let's talk about what our new group of coaches and players need to win. Riley had some good years here but nothing great. He left OSU twice for other opportunities. He isn't coming back.
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Post by nforkbeav on Nov 6, 2016 9:55:06 GMT -8
What was the score? Didn't think to write it down for later use in a thread. Doesn't really matter since you agree with the main points in my post. Nebraska trailed 24-3 midway through the 2nd qtr when he was knocked out. That's exactly what I thought it was. Thx
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 6, 2016 10:27:38 GMT -8
Uh talk about nuts. You're one of those guys that believes the top 25 ranking is valid before teams play the games? only 2 teams NB has beaten have winning records. NB in desperation got a W at home against a horrible Oregon team, barely beat Indiana and now is finally playing a few of the good teams in their conference (getting beat)... so you think that NB would be in the top 25 despite being not as good as Wiconsin, tOSU, Michigan, Penn ST. and potentially others in their conference? I'm confident that they won't be there at the end of the season (proof in the pudding) as well as Utah and some of the others that have been up there (also over-rated) The fault in your logic is that you assume there are a decent-sized handful of teams below them that are better. Or even that teams ranked above them are clearly better. Boise State? No. North Carolina? No. Baylor, Okie State, no. Nebraska could beat all those teams, they could also lose to all those teams. There are 10 to 12 "top teams", then about 25 to 30 others that are roughly equivalent. Nebraska has beat the teams they are supposed to beat, that's all you can ask of a team. They are certainly worthy of being a top 25 team. Let me put it another way. Utah's big win is unranked USC. The only other team they beat with a winning record is 5-4 BYU. They lost to Cal. For that Utah is ranked 12th, 8 spots ahead of Nebraska.
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 7, 2016 8:11:31 GMT -8
We have all been down this road.
This entire thread is an example of the fascinating human psyche. People are so sold on Mike Riley being the problem in Corvallis, that now that his team laid a major turd and lost their starting QB in the process, people want to use this as an proof. Riley is garbage. GA is the answer.
But MR pooping the bed does not make 2-10 and now 2-7 any better, any more correct, or look any prettier. It sure isn't making GA's job here look good. We might have a win or two left on the schedule, but you need to stop and take stock at snickering at a coach that lost big to a top 10 team on the road (again) a week after losing in OT to another top 10 team on the road, but still has his team at 7-2 when your own team is 2-7. And lets face it, it ain't like GA has kept a lot of scores close either...
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Post by orangeattack on Nov 9, 2016 19:52:17 GMT -8
The reality is, MR is in his 2nd season at Nebraska and they're going to win 10 games and be first place in their division and playing for the conference title - and he's not doing it with a stereotypical laser-accurate pocket passer, he and Danny designed an offense that takes advantage of the pieces that they have. That's pretty good, and I'm happy for him because he's a good man who did a lot for OSU. I don't feel mad when people bash him anymore, it's honestly so ridiculous that I can't really manage much more than an eye roll. I skipped from the first page to the last but baseba1111 asked the question on pg1 about whether Riley would be still be beloved if the University had stepped up and invested in the football program back in 06-07-08-09 when the program was hot... Unfortunately I don't really think so. I think it would have still just prolonged the inevitable. I hoped at one point in time that Riley would be our Bobby Bowden but the truth is, you have to inject new blood into a mid-major program periodically to generate excitement, or else the program stagnates. It's just the world we live in. I'm all in for the new guy, he's our coach now and I am looking forward to him having some success in the future.
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