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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 12, 2016 8:35:58 GMT -8
One thing I'm not sure was brought up yet, is the fact that using Blount, if he has a better grasp of our offense as has been suggested, is that 2 guys give you extra scripted plays available. Even if MM starts and moves the team some in the 1st lets say, I would almost guarantee UCLA adjusts and shuts us down completely in the 2nd. With Blount it gives UCLA a completely different scheme they MIGHT see. On that, we'll just have to see. Just saying that could be a reason why using 2 guys is better than one at this stage of our evolution. If this defensive adjustment theory of yours is the case... why would any team ever use the same QB an entire game? Changing a QB is as likely to kill an offense's rhythm as a defense's. If your offense is struggling, make a change. Until the other team actually proves it can stop your offense you might as well "git while the gitten's good". I can think of a couple of notable games where the team stopped doing what was working apparently for the sake of making a change and it cost us bigtime (the bowl game against Texas running wild on them and building a big lead then changing to an ineffective at best passing game stands out for one). |
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 12, 2016 12:30:55 GMT -8
One thing I'm not sure was brought up yet, is the fact that using Blount, if he has a better grasp of our offense as has been suggested, is that 2 guys give you extra scripted plays available. Even if MM starts and moves the team some in the 1st lets say, I would almost guarantee UCLA adjusts and shuts us down completely in the 2nd. With Blount it gives UCLA a completely different scheme they MIGHT see. On that, we'll just have to see. Just saying that could be a reason why using 2 guys is better than one at this stage of our evolution. If this defensive adjustment theory of yours is the case... why would any team ever use the same QB an entire game? Changing a QB is as likely to kill an offense's rhythm as a defense's. If your offense is struggling, make a change. Until the other team actually proves it can stop your offense you might as well "git while the gitten's good". I can think of a couple of notable games where the team stopped doing what was working apparently for the sake of making a change and it cost us bigtime (the bowl game against Texas running wild on them and building a big lead then changing to an ineffective at best passing game stands out for one). Correct. Listen, the reality is this: if running 2 QBs was in ANY way, shape, or form considered a benefit, it would be used far more often. It is not. You do not see the best coaches in the nation doing this. you do not see the best teams in the nation doing this. you do not see the innovative, smart, respected coaches doing this. stop trying to justify this as some kind of good thing, people. It is not, and GA needs to realize this much sooner than later. |
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Post by beavsaregood on Nov 12, 2016 14:42:23 GMT -8
Let's just call it right here. CGA is NOT a good coach on offense. He needs some help.
If there's no marked improvement by next year, CGA is NOT a good coach. Period.
He did this at Wisconsin to Stave.......Hey, isn't he in the pros? Yup. Yeah. CGA f'd with Stave's head. Stave would have left if Andersen stayed..................Hey, haven't I heard that story at Oregon State, recently?
So, what is Coachipoo Andersen doing now? F'n with McMaryion's head is what he's doing. Of course. McMaryion cannot do the read option as well as the others or something like that? Yet, probably I'd take a McMaryion with the arm. Yeah maybe Blount is better......I dunno. Basically CGA cannot assess talent. He's stubborn. And he's not a good coach technically (probably). Like........I don't see him coaching in the pros, you know? ..............Yo, CGA, where's Utah Stater Chuckie Keaton Jr. #10?
Hell, CGA. Let's go all in and do the triple option a la Georgia Tech or a Navy or something of that ilk.
I have a feeling maybe Blount will kinda do well because maybe he'll get lucky in a couple drives..........look. all the QBs suck....and CGA has no patience to develop a QB. Maybe he doesn't know how to develop players or have a decent QB coach/OC..........
Trust the process. Make Oregon State Football Great Again, CGA.
I'm not a visor guy, though. I like a good old fashioned ball cap, you know? Does he want to be like the ol ball coach? c'mon cga, phil mickelson is a fatty, gambling degenerate who wears a visor......
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trust the process.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Nov 12, 2016 14:55:29 GMT -8
Let's just call it right here. CGA is NOT a good coach on offense. He needs some help. If there's no marked improvement by next year, CGA is NOT a good coach. Period. He did this at Wisconsin to Stave.......Hey, isn't he in the pros? Yup. Yeah. CGA f'd with Stave's head. Stave would have left if Andersen stayed..................Hey, haven't I heard that story at Oregon State, recently? So, what is Coachipoo Andersen doing now? F'n with McMaryion's head is what he's doing. Of course. McMaryion cannot do the read option as well as the others or something like that? Yet, probably I'd take a McMaryion with the arm. Yeah maybe Blount is better......I dunno. Basically CGA cannot assess talent. He's stubborn. And he's not a good coach technically (probably). Like........I don't see him coaching in the pros, you know? ..............Yo, CGA, where's Utah Stater Chuckie Keaton Jr. #10? Hell, CGA. Let's go all in and do the triple option a la Georgia Tech or a Navy or something of that ilk. I have a feeling maybe Blount will kinda do well because maybe he'll get lucky in a couple drives..........look. all the QBs suck....and CGA has no patience to develop a QB. Maybe he doesn't know how to develop players or have a decent QB coach/OC.......... Trust the process. Make Oregon State Football Great Again, CGA. I'm not a visor guy, though. I like a good old fashioned ball cap, you know? Does he want to be like the ol ball coach? c'mon cga, phil mickelson is a fatty, gambling degenerate who wears a visor...... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trust the process. Make Oregon State Great Again! We will give him four years. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 15:15:47 GMT -8
What is up with CGA? Seriously. He seems to be mucking up the offense 2 years in a row. He keeps grasping for the hot hand at QB. He cannot develop or be patient with the development of a QB. What does he want? Does CGA want a Utah Stater stud QB like Chuckie Keeton who probably would have been a "MEH" QB if he were to play in the pac-12? CGA is definitely impatient. Hand the ball off to Nall, develop McMaryion and work on that O-line. Blount and/or Utah Stater #10 will keep getting injured. Those run option QBs who cannot pass with suspect blockers will get jacked up....Blount and Utah Stater #10 do not even have D1 Pac-12 bodies. If Coach Utah Stater wants a QB that runs the ball 100% of the time, he should have kept Seth Collins at QB and "develop" the kid as a passer. What a joke. Utah Stater #10 (Garretson) is not a good passer. Period. McMaryion can move in the pocket AND he is the best passer on the team. Mark is not the greatest but can the CGA and coaches develop the guy? ....IF the coaches know how to...........coach?! At this point, just run Nall if he's healthy. CGA is gripping badly on the offensive side of the ball. He should get an above average OC for pete's sake and let him drive. F THE RUN OPTION. With this mess of a roster, the offense is looking like a run option HS team especially if Utah Stater #10 is playing. THIS IS NOT UTAH STATE. Believe it or not, the Beavs are a PAC-12 team. CGA SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB ASSESSING PLAYERS HE INHERITED AND DEVELOP AN OFFENSE AND DEFENSE THAT BRINGS OUT OF THE BEST OF THOSE PLAYERS. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE TORN THE BANDAID OFF AND ALIENATE SOME PLAYERS. Hybrid WCO would have been nice on offense. Actually, CGA ought to focus on the D (ONLY) because, boy. That D is turrible. As CGA has said, the D is trying hard BUT they are turrible. However, there are improvements. But, the QB carousel is all on CGA. Generally, watching the defense getting gashed by Stanford makes me wonder if CGA can weather the storm in Corvallis. CGA is NOT a guru on either side of the ball. He probably gives a good pep talk or pregame speech.......I envision him motivating the players. He gives a great confident interview to the press. He seems to slide by those interviews. Confidently accepting blame.......and indirectly placing blame on the players. I just hope someone is teaching the kids some basic things. Playing 2 QBs again this year makes me wonder if CGA has bitten off more than he can chew. I'm getting frustrated with his STUBBORN attitude. McMaryion is a no-go with CGA it seems. It sure looks like CGA is a Utah Stater kinda guy. Obviously, the Beavs have no next level players on the team at this time ........especially the WRS. Can they catch the ball? No way would his coaching fly in Madison if he were to continue coaching Wisco. CGA is building a hot mess on offense with no direction or identity. He's not recruiting well. If there's little improvement next year, he'll lose the team. This gungho show of his will wear on his players if they don't win games. AND CAN COACH ANDERSEN (CGA) RECRUIT PLAYERS THAT WILL QUALIFY ..........ON TIME? ALSO, CAN CGA RECRUIT PLAYERS THAT WILL DELAY THEIR MORMON MISSIONS? IF NOT, DON'T RECRUIT THEM. BEAVS NEED HELP, NOW. WE'RE NOT THE Y (BYU) OR UTAH.............OR, UTAH STATE! WE NEED IMPACT PLAYERS, NOW. OK, we rarely get impact players. How about players that can be coached up to contribute in a few years?.............if the coaches can actually coach. Sorry if I call him Coach Utah Stater. He's starting to look like a coach that is best fit to coach teams like his beloved Utah State Aggies. He MUST know what he's doing, right?! I just wonder is all, especially when he goes with two QBs, again. AND CGA ought to be a little more inventive when Seth Collins is behind center. What a f'n joke that wildcat is...........soooooooooo predictable. I seriously don't know what Coach Andersen is doing, especially on OFFENSE. Gawd. We're waiting for that pinnacle year under CGA. Coach Andersen's 6-6 year by 2018-2019. And no. I don't want "compare" with Washington State or Colorado. F that. Just get it done and do an even better job. If Andersen drags the program down into the DARK AGES (AGAIN), can him and bring in JONATHAN SMITH as HC by the 2019-2020 season. BRING 9ER BACK HOME!!! HE KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP QBs. At least he'll have some familiarity with the program and knows what it takes to bring home a Fiesta Bowl trophy to Corvallis. I hope I'm wrong with CGA. I really do. He must know wht he's doing, right?! You are wrong with CGA. Feel better? |
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Post by beavsaregood on Nov 12, 2016 15:29:03 GMT -8
Blowcheese,
I feel good! 4 more years! When the other teams go high, we go low! ...........like we leg whip! 4 more years! Make Oregon State Beaver Football Great Again!
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Post by beavsaregood on Nov 12, 2016 15:32:41 GMT -8
CGA will give out schollies to the disenfranchised recruits. They will not be forgotten. He's got a plan and it's gonna be yuuuuuuuuuge.
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Post by Mike84 on Nov 12, 2016 16:24:42 GMT -8
I haven't wanted to wade through this entire long thread, so maybe this has already been clarified, but where did Andersen say that Blount would definitely play in this game let alone say that OSU would be using a 2 QB system? I heard Andersen on the radio this past week talking about Blount maybe being healthy enough to play but I didn't hear anything that would explain the back-and-forth angst in this thread. The most recent article I can find on this (linked below) says: "With Conor Blount back in the fold, Oregon State has the option of playing two quarterbacks at UCLA this Saturday." "Marcus McMaryion will start, but Blount, who is looking to get back on the field for the first time since hurting his knee against Utah, could get playing time." "Andersen said if one of them gets a hot hand, then they'll stay with that hot hand." "Marcus is the starter, that's the bottom line. We'll see as we go through it if the opportunity presents itself by scheme or potential adjustments that they're doing." So, what did I miss? Blount ready to take snaps at UCLA |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 12, 2016 16:58:17 GMT -8
I haven't wanted to wade through this entire long thread, so maybe this has already been clarified, but where did Andersen say that Blount would definitely play in this game let alone say that OSU would be using a 2 QB system? I heard Andersen on the radio this past week talking about Blount maybe being healthy enough to play but I didn't hear anything that would explain the back-and-forth angst in this thread. The most recent article I can find on this (linked below) says: "With Conor Blount back in the fold, Oregon State has the option of playing two quarterbacks at UCLA this Saturday." "Marcus McMaryion will start, but Blount, who is looking to get back on the field for the first time since hurting his knee against Utah, could get playing time." "Andersen said if one of them gets a hot hand, then they'll stay with that hot hand." "Marcus is the starter, that's the bottom line. We'll see as we go through it if the opportunity presents itself by scheme or potential adjustments that they're doing." So, what did I miss? Blount ready to take snaps at UCLA Thanks for stopping the runaway truck! |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 12, 2016 18:16:14 GMT -8
I haven't wanted to wade through this entire long thread, so maybe this has already been clarified, but where did Andersen say that Blount would definitely play in this game let alone say that OSU would be using a 2 QB system? I heard Andersen on the radio this past week talking about Blount maybe being healthy enough to play but I didn't hear anything that would explain the back-and-forth angst in this thread. The most recent article I can find on this (linked below) says: "With Conor Blount back in the fold, Oregon State has the option of playing two quarterbacks at UCLA this Saturday." "Marcus McMaryion will start, but Blount, who is looking to get back on the field for the first time since hurting his knee against Utah, could get playing time." "Andersen said if one of them gets a hot hand, then they'll stay with that hot hand." "Marcus is the starter, that's the bottom line. We'll see as we go through it if the opportunity presents itself by scheme or potential adjustments that they're doing." So, what did I miss? Blount ready to take snaps at UCLA "If one of them gets a hot hand..." Pretty much implies he'd play. Otherwise how'd you tell? Typically you just say your backup is healthy. Period. |
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Post by zebraworks on Nov 13, 2016 11:07:39 GMT -8
"If one of them gets a hot hand..." Pretty much implies he'd play. Otherwise how'd you tell? Typically you just say your backup is healthy. Period. Trainers have those new infra-red temperature sensors and they periodically monitor the hands on the bench while D is out there. |
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Post by nabeav on Nov 13, 2016 22:33:23 GMT -8
My (completely unconfirmed, based on no fact whatsoever) theory is that Blount is still too injured to play. Remember Dennis Dixon in '08 or whatever? He was fine until he had to move laterally, and then his knee imploded like the Kingdome. Because practices are only open to the media for short periods of time, we trot him out there for a few controlled plays in a no-contact jersey where he doesn't have to move much at all, then we say he's ready to play to give UCLA something to think about as they prepare for the game.
Just my opinion, because if I was averaging about twenty yards a drive and had another qb ready to go, I'd be tempted to see what happened.
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Post by TheGlove on Nov 14, 2016 16:58:01 GMT -8
Looks like I was right.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 14, 2016 19:03:26 GMT -8
My (completely unconfirmed, based on no fact whatsoever) theory is that Blount is still too injured to play. Remember Dennis Dixon in '08 or whatever? He was fine until he had to move laterally, and then his knee imploded like the Kingdome. Because practices are only open to the media for short periods of time, we trot him out there for a few controlled plays in a no-contact jersey where he doesn't have to move much at all, then we say he's ready to play to give UCLA something to think about as they prepare for the game. Just my opinion, because if I was averaging about twenty yards a drive and had another qb ready to go, I'd be tempted to see what happened. Except it was not media who reported it on their own. GA responded to questioning directly... there was no, "... we saw Connor out there at practice and..." |
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