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Post by beaverheart on Nov 29, 2015 6:34:33 GMT -8
It is kind of hard to know if he has the "stuff" or not. One thing is for sure, he does not have a Pac-12 quality QB. I have my doubts that the QB on redshirt is good enough to be a great player in the Pac-12 either. This is the most dismal season ever, I'm glad it is over. It's ok, some of us were on board before 1997. We know better. I'm 71 years old and a graduate of OSU, I have been watching the Beav's for 40 years. My wife and I have donated over 16K to OSU and now we are the doormat of the league again! I had two sons play football and I have three grandsons that play now. I attend at least three football games a week during the season. If you" know better" then tell me which guy on the team at QB that is going to take us to the top instead of flicking $hit on me. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Nov 29, 2015 10:23:05 GMT -8
It's ok, some of us were on board before 1997. We know better. I'm 71 years old and a graduate of OSU, I have been watching the Beav's for 40 years. My wife and I have donated over 16K to OSU and now we are the doormat of the league again! I had two sons play football and I have three grandsons that play now. I attend at least three football games a week during the season. If you" know better" then tell me which guy on the team at QB that is going to take us to the top instead of flicking $hit on me. Do you feel better puffing out your chest? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 29, 2015 16:00:11 GMT -8
I'm 71 years old and a graduate of OSU, I have been watching the Beav's for 40 years. My wife and I have donated over 16K to OSU and now we are the doormat of the league again! I had two sons play football and I have three grandsons that play now. I attend at least three football games a week during the season. If you" know better" then tell me which guy on the team at QB that is going to take us to the top instead of flicking $hit on me. Do you feel better puffing out your chest? Hmmm. Donate on top of tix? Cuz my my 40 years of tix top 16k let alone extra donations. And, I had kids play football and coached at the highest and lowest high school levels. Does that make me an expert on what is or isn't a D1 QB? Lol The same logic you use to defend Baldwin could be used conversely. With the lack of intelligent play calling, the randomness of the QB evaluation process where the co #1 gets little playing time and then sides to #3 behind the supposed distant #3. MAYBE it's hard to tell if we have a D1 QB with this OC?? |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Nov 29, 2015 16:20:15 GMT -8
Hollingsworth is out according to his dad.
That's one.
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Post by beaverheart on Nov 29, 2015 18:07:45 GMT -8
Do you feel better puffing out your chest? Hmmm. Donate on top of tix? Cuz my my 40 years of tix top 16k let alone extra donations. And, I had kids play football and coached at the highest and lowest high school levels. Does that make me an expert on what is or isn't a D1 QB? Lol The same logic you use to defend Baldwin could be used conversely. With the lack of intelligent play calling, the randomness of the QB evaluation process where the co #1 gets little playing time and then sides to #3 behind the supposed distant #3. MAYBE it's hard to tell if we have a D1 QB with this OC?? |
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Post by beaverheart on Nov 29, 2015 18:17:37 GMT -8
Is no one willing to choose one of our present QB's to take us to the top, or even halfway? By the way I am pretty proud of all the Beaver Fans the stepped up and made the donations that helped build the present facilities. I am also frustrated, falling into the cellar again should have never happened. We had it going pretty good for a while. It is like a whole bunch of influential people fell asleep on the job.
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Post by nabeav on Nov 29, 2015 18:31:56 GMT -8
Is no one willing to choose one of our present QB's to take us to the top, or even halfway? By the way I am pretty proud of all the Beaver Fans the stepped up and made the donations that helped build the present facilities. I am also frustrated, falling into the cellar again should have never happened. We had it going pretty good for a while. It is like a whole bunch of influential people fell asleep on the job. Gotta disagree with you. Nobody "fell asleep." Baseball has only made one World Series in the past decade after going to three in a row and constantly upgrading facilities and highly regarded recruiting classes year after year. I don't hear anyone questioning Pat Casey, yet there seems to be this expectation that a football program should never regress. It's not just here, Richt and Miles were both on the chopping block despite being nationally ranked and in the conversation for division/conference championships year after year. The law of averages says the Beavs will be better next season. We might get 3 wins, we might get 5. We might catch lightning in a bottle and get 8. The next year people will be talking Rose Bowls. If we go 6-6 in year 3, we will all be on here belly aching about unimaginative play calling and questionable defensive alignments. The best we can ask for is a chance to win every game we play and coaches and players we can be proud of representing our university. Everything else is window dressing. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Nov 29, 2015 18:40:26 GMT -8
Is no one willing to choose one of our present QB's to take us to the top, or even halfway? By the way I am pretty proud of all the Beaver Fans the stepped up and made the donations that helped build the present facilities. I am also frustrated, falling into the cellar again should have never happened. We had it going pretty good for a while. It is like a whole bunch of influential people fell asleep on the job. Current QB's who are actually active? No QB on roster? Sure, he can take OSU halfway. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 29, 2015 19:01:56 GMT -8
Hollingsworth is out according to his dad. That's one. Not sure how to react to that one, but the D line gets even thinner I guess. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 30, 2015 8:43:45 GMT -8
It's ok, some of us were on board before 1997. We know better. I'm 71 years old and a graduate of OSU, I have been watching the Beav's for 40 years. My wife and I have donated over 16K to OSU and now we are the doormat of the league again! I had two sons play football and I have three grandsons that play now. I attend at least three football games a week during the season. If you" know better" then tell me which guy on the team at QB that is going to take us to the top instead of flicking $hit on me. You just can't tell. Anybody that looked at Jonathan Smith in 1998 sitting behind Terrance Bryant and told you he was taking OSU to 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl in 2 years is a G-D liar... Every single QB on our roster is capable. it all just depends. It depends on the team around them, the offense we give them, the defense. all of it. Remember, there are guys out there like John Elway that never go to a bowl game and quarterback losing teams in college that go on to win superbowls, and there are guys like Ken Dorsey that never sniff the NFL despite being something like 30-2 or whatever in their career. Just depends. QB is a very important position, but it is not the only one. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Nov 30, 2015 10:14:35 GMT -8
I'm 71 years old and a graduate of OSU, I have been watching the Beav's for 40 years. My wife and I have donated over 16K to OSU and now we are the doormat of the league again! I had two sons play football and I have three grandsons that play now. I attend at least three football games a week during the season. If you" know better" then tell me which guy on the team at QB that is going to take us to the top instead of flicking $hit on me. You just can't tell. Anybody that looked at Jonathan Smith in 1998 sitting behind Terrance Bryant and told you he was taking OSU to 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl in 2 years is a G-D liar... Every single QB on our roster is capable. it all just depends. It depends on the team around them, the offense we give them, the defense. all of it. Remember, there are guys out there like John Elway that never go to a bowl game and quarterback losing teams in college that go on to win superbowls, and there are guys like Ken Dorsey that never sniff the NFL despite being something like 30-2 or whatever in their career. Just depends. QB is a very important position, but it is not the only one. Not 11-1 and Fiesta Bowl but I was one of the first guys to call for Smith to play over Bryant back in 1998.. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 30, 2015 10:28:34 GMT -8
You just can't tell. Anybody that looked at Jonathan Smith in 1998 sitting behind Terrance Bryant and told you he was taking OSU to 11-1 and the Fiesta Bowl in 2 years is a G-D liar... Every single QB on our roster is capable. it all just depends. It depends on the team around them, the offense we give them, the defense. all of it. Remember, there are guys out there like John Elway that never go to a bowl game and quarterback losing teams in college that go on to win superbowls, and there are guys like Ken Dorsey that never sniff the NFL despite being something like 30-2 or whatever in their career. Just depends. QB is a very important position, but it is not the only one. Not 11-1 and Fiesta Bowl but I was one of the first guys to call for Smith to play over Bryant back in 1998.. LMAO... of course you were... would never imagine you as an "I told you so..." guy!!! Based on all the game time JS had? You watched him in HS? He was more than just a "throw in" walk on while recruiting teammates??? Wow... nice sarcasm... |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Nov 30, 2015 10:35:51 GMT -8
Not 11-1 and Fiesta Bowl but I was one of the first guys to call for Smith to play over Bryant back in 1998.. LMAO... of course you were... would never imagine you as an "I told you so..." guy!!! Based on all the game time JS had? You watched him in HS? He was more than just a "throw in" walk on while recruiting teammates??? Wow... nice sarcasm... Now I can tell you weren't around Beaver boards in 1998. Arizona game was his coming out party. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 30, 2015 10:50:57 GMT -8
LMAO... of course you were... would never imagine you as an "I told you so..." guy!!! Based on all the game time JS had? You watched him in HS? He was more than just a "throw in" walk on while recruiting teammates??? Wow... nice sarcasm... Now I can tell you weren't around Beaver boards in 1998. Arizona game was his coming out party. LMAO... ya, cuz we all remember back to posts 17 years ago... maybe you have a scrap book of them??? I worked directly with some of offensive coaches as often as my schedule would allow that summer just to learn from them on the field and in meetings. TB was seen as one of the smoothest QB prospects MR had seen. Not until he was in school/in the system was his big deficiency noticed... a glaring lack of focus to detail and willingness for extra work. I can tell you straight up, JS was seen as a "nice little player"... nothing more. Was never in the conversation as a potential starter... do you know who was "supposed" to be the back up??? Because of injury and academic issues he was not and the JS legend began... |
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Post by nabeav on Nov 30, 2015 11:23:51 GMT -8
My cousin's wife's mom went to school with Riley at CHS.......
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