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Post by woodrow7525 on Dec 3, 2017 9:39:59 GMT -8
To Stanford yet?
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Post by thewizard on Dec 3, 2017 9:43:00 GMT -8
That is the $64,000 question.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 9:58:14 GMT -8
He graduates in March so he wouldn't announce a transfer till then.
If he is going to the NFL (which would be foolish IMO) we could hear anytime but a transfer announcement won't be util spring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 10:17:45 GMT -8
He graduates in March so he wouldn't announce a transfer till then. If he is going to the NFL (which would be foolish IMO) we could hear anytime but a transfer announcement won't be util spring. why foolish? He isn't going to get any faster if he waits until next year. The scouts have all the film in the can they need on him. the average NFL career is less years than the fingers on your right hand and that clock has already started for him realistically. If am him i start shaving that 40 time for the NFL on campus team days right now. If he can get it close to a 4.60 and get invited to the combine, someone will draft him in the later rounds if only for special teams and to make a project linebacker out of him. Some other team will see how he catches the ball and make him a TE. He has a lot of utility. Some GM will want him. No use in waiting a year in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 10:38:46 GMT -8
He graduates in March so he wouldn't announce a transfer till then. If he is going to the NFL (which would be foolish IMO) we could hear anytime but a transfer announcement won't be util spring. why foolish? He isn't going to get any faster if he waits until next year. The scouts have all the film in the can they need on him. the average NFL career is less years than the fingers on your right hand and that clock has already started for him realistically. If am him i start shaving that 40 time for the NFL on campus team days right now. If he can get it close to a 4.60 and get invited to the combine, someone will draft him in the later rounds if only for special teams and to make a project linebacker out of him. Some other team will see how he catches the ball and make him a TE. He has a lot of utility. Some GM will want him. No use in waiting a year in my opinion. Foolish because I disagree that someone will draft him but even if he does go in the late rounds his bonus will be like 10K and odds are he won't make the team and will struggle to even make a practice squad. Another year of free college (especially grad school) has more long term economic value to Nall. All those NFL long shot possibilities will still be there in a year. It only makes sense to leave early if he is gonna go in the first 3 rounds and be all but guaranteed to make an NFL salary for at least 1 year. Leaving early to battle for a special teams/practice squad position is foolish in my opinion. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 3, 2017 11:24:14 GMT -8
If he's not gonna be an NFL player after this year, he probably won't be one after next year, either.
For almost all NFL players their prime earning years are between 23 and 30. Considering how short the average NFL career is, even losing one of those early $600,000 years (plus time toward the pension) is a major setback. Quizz was smart to leave and get paid, rather than playing another year for free. Freeman wasted a year of probable NFL employment, played for free and risked injury.
He'll have his degree. Train up for pro day and see how you do. If you have a chance to get drafted, take the money. He is never going to be a first-day guy anyway and it's a stretch to project him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 3, 2017 11:29:38 GMT -8
If he's not gonna be an NFL player after this year, he probably won't be one after next year, either. For almost all NFL players their prime earning years are between 23 and 30. Considering how short the average NFL career is, even losing one of those early $600,000 years (plus time toward the pension) is a major setback. Quizz was smart to leave and get paid, rather than playing another year for free. Freeman wasted a year of probable NFL employment, played for free and risked injury. He'll have his degree. Train up for pro day and see how you do. If you have a chance to get drafted, take the money. He is never going to be a first-day guy anyway and it's a stretch to project him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. What is the value of a free year of graduate school at Stanford? Approximately $80,000. gradadmissions.stanford.edu/admitted-students/financing-graduate-study/estimated-expense-budget |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 11:33:42 GMT -8
If he's not gonna be an NFL player after this year, he probably won't be one after next year, either. For almost all NFL players their prime earning years are between 23 and 30. Considering how short the average NFL career is, even losing one of those early $600,000 years (plus time toward the pension) is a major setback. Quizz was smart to leave and get paid, rather than playing another year for free. Freeman wasted a year of probable NFL employment, played for free and risked injury. He'll have his degree. Train up for pro day and see how you do. If you have a chance to get drafted, take the money. He is never going to be a first-day guy anyway and it's a stretch to project him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. To each their own. Quiz was a 3rd round pick. Leaving makes sense in that case. Leaving to be a 7th round pick/undrafted free agent is not as smart as getting a free year of grad school. It just isn't. I do agree with your first sentence that waiting a year won't change a whole lot but he will have a year of grad school under his belt which does have long term economic value so I disagree that he'd be playing for free. The odds of him getting even one of those $600,000 years are really low IMO so take the free year of grad school then take your shot at getting one of those $600,000 years. But I just don't think Nall is all that attractive as an NFL talent, many of you think he is. To me he is the kind of guy that spends 2-3 years bouncing on and off of practice squads, maybe spends a year or 2 in the CFL and thats about it. The long term financial rewards of a year of grad school out weigh getting to those pro years a year earlier in my opinion. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 3, 2017 11:44:31 GMT -8
He needs to get his 40 time down if he truly want to be a running back in the NFL. A 4.6 might get him a look at linebacker. Find a sprint coach and work it for a year and ge can shave his time.
Seems to me Pettibone once said he really didn't care what a QB's 40 time was because he could cut it. I think it was Rahim that he dropped nearly 1.5-2.5 tenths off in a bit over a year, I remember I thought it was a phenomenal improvement at the time.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 3, 2017 11:53:45 GMT -8
If you play running back, and your goal is to have a long NFL career, go to the NFL as soon as you can. The body can only take so much, 300 hits at any level wears you down.
With that said I hope Nall comes back and wants to play for Smith.
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 3, 2017 12:02:18 GMT -8
If he's not gonna be an NFL player after this year, he probably won't be one after next year, either. For almost all NFL players their prime earning years are between 23 and 30. Considering how short the average NFL career is, even losing one of those early $600,000 years (plus time toward the pension) is a major setback. Quizz was smart to leave and get paid, rather than playing another year for free. Freeman wasted a year of probable NFL employment, played for free and risked injury. He'll have his degree. Train up for pro day and see how you do. If you have a chance to get drafted, take the money. He is never going to be a first-day guy anyway and it's a stretch to project him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. What is the value of a free year of graduate school at Stanford? Approximately $80,000. gradadmissions.stanford.edu/admitted-students/financing-graduate-study/estimated-expense-budgetDoes Stanford even need him? RB? Share time with his buddy, Cameron Scarlett? They are loaded at the TE & LB positions. Maybe they want him at RB? I don't know. |
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 3, 2017 12:06:34 GMT -8
If he's not gonna be an NFL player after this year, he probably won't be one after next year, either. For almost all NFL players their prime earning years are between 23 and 30. Considering how short the average NFL career is, even losing one of those early $600,000 years (plus time toward the pension) is a major setback. Quizz was smart to leave and get paid, rather than playing another year for free. Freeman wasted a year of probable NFL employment, played for free and risked injury. He'll have his degree. Train up for pro day and see how you do. If you have a chance to get drafted, take the money. He is never going to be a first-day guy anyway and it's a stretch to project him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. What is the value of a free year of graduate school at Stanford? Approximately $80,000. gradadmissions.stanford.edu/admitted-students/financing-graduate-study/estimated-expense-budget |
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 3, 2017 12:27:57 GMT -8
'ferds graduate programs are A+. Undergraduate--above average, but so are OSU's. If Nall wants to do graduate work there, I get it. Football wise? I dunno. Hope Smitty (Niner), Coach Smith can talk him in to sticking around. FWIW...I think Pierce, Tyler, and possibly Tyner (if) will be JUST fine in the backfield.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 3, 2017 12:31:47 GMT -8
Where did this rumor even come from? And not knocking him at all, but how does anyone know if he would get admitted? It’s not like just anyone can say”Hello, Stanford? Im transferring in.” And what evidence is there that Shaw is even interested in him playing there? Doesn’t seem to me that Stanford has been a big exploiter of what I think is a phony program that allows graduates to transfer.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 3, 2017 12:46:10 GMT -8
Unlike most on here Nall is not key to next year. Assuming the others stay, plus any new RB recruits/JC types RB is fine overall.
If Ryan wants to leave... he's not even close to a top 4 rd draft pick... more power to him. But, he is far from a key cog in next year's success. Good piece to have return? Sure. But, certainly not a big blow with the youngsters we have... and could get.
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